Sonic Youth: Classic or Dud/S&D?

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I liked Trees Outside the Academy a lot more than the last couple of SY albums, never heard any of his more avant solo stuff though.

Gavin, Leeds, Monday, 22 April 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

didn't mind Demolished Thoughts.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2013 21:52 (eleven years ago) link

i guess thurston can go on double dates with wayne coyne now

shit tie (Jordan), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:00 (eleven years ago) link

Thurston should return to Coral Gables. We got gastropubs now!

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:05 (eleven years ago) link

gastro pubs & their $15 hamburgers are the greatest scam ever visited on the american ppl

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

with Kim out of the band who's left to write that stinging indictment

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:20 (eleven years ago) link

i feel like NY Ghosts & Flowers would have been the album most ready for a gastropub diss

ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:22 (eleven years ago) link

this article makes Thurston sound unbelievably lame

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

like, just garden-variety rich middle aged man banging my new "assistant" lame

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link

the psychic heart wants what it wants

da croupier, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:27 (eleven years ago) link

what Jordan said

The Great Natterer (dandydonweiner), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link

while this is definitely an unromantic bummer, I must admit I'd rather be dating a hot young sycophant than married to Kim Gordon. And I can also see preferring juggling successful suitors to being with Thurston Moore. So maybe everyone's better off.

da croupier, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:36 (eleven years ago) link

Kim Gordon is better off because she was publicly humiliated and dumped for a hotter piece of ass?

The Great Natterer (dandydonweiner), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

except the folks pining for that "plays Goo" tour, I guess

xpost that's not what i wrote, dandydonweiner

da croupier, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:37 (eleven years ago) link

preferring juggling successful suitors

ugh are you kidding dating in your 50s/60s sounds like a total nightmare. double for anyone as famous/infamous as Gordon

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

but what do I know

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

again, i compared it to being married to thurston moore

da croupier, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

context, guys

da croupier, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link

uuuuuugh i wish i had never read this news

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:43 (eleven years ago) link

this kinda thing is like one of the most common things ever. you know? "people are people" - bob marley

scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:44 (eleven years ago) link

yeah, i dunno, they're just a couple who broke up. I mean, it's sort of a bummer, but lots of couples break up -- even feminist noize rockers!

tylerw, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link

I kind of don't care about any of this, it's not like they're role models or friends of mine. But I do like their music as Sonic Youth and thought the Eternal was decent but not what I'd like to hear as their Last Album.

"Turkey In The Straw" coming from someplace in the clouds (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

it always makes me sad to see something, even a relationship of two people i will never know personally, die that way
maybe i'm just a sap
getting old is gonna be hard

and that sounds like a gong-concert (La Lechera), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link

it's no Here, My Dear

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 22 April 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

kim makes me nervous in real life. not in a bad way, just nervous. she has that stare. I definitely wouldn't want to forget to take out the garbage in her house.

scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

Someone just do a mock up of Thurston and Kim on the cover of Rumours and be done with it.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:53 (eleven years ago) link

i haven't heard this Chelsea Lite thing, but can this "TOO FUCKING BAD! TOO FUCKING BAD!" thing be read in a Rumours-like capacity?

da croupier, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:54 (eleven years ago) link

i'd be bummed if georgia hubley and ira kaplan broke up i suppose -- but they've have made their relationship a part of their songs. At least they sing love songs, right? Kim & Thurston's relationship was never really presented as such in Sonic Youth's music. [not sure if that makes sense but...]

tylerw, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:56 (eleven years ago) link

iirc xgau's reaction on his blog was something about how it sucks but he always thought k&t lived really separate lives, while ira & georgia splitting would really bum him out

da croupier, Monday, 22 April 2013 22:58 (eleven years ago) link

IIRC, nabisco wrote something very OTM about this.

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 22 April 2013 23:02 (eleven years ago) link

But if you were counting on them, or anyone else, as proof that interesting tastes and shared passions could create some version of adulthood and marriage any easier than the one you grew up looking at, then sorry: Your parents were probably right about that part.

oof

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 April 2013 23:06 (eleven years ago) link

this article makes Thurston sound unbelievably lame

Tbf, his ex-wife's side of the story is almost guaranteed to.

Also, he can't have been particularly rich per se, could he?

EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, 22 April 2013 23:09 (eleven years ago) link

are you kidding

four Marxes plus four Obamas plus four Bin Ladens (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, 22 April 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

rich in cultural capital

j., Monday, 22 April 2013 23:11 (eleven years ago) link

Well the article suggests the divorce hold up involves figuring out how much an eighties hardcore poster archive is worth

da croupier, Monday, 22 April 2013 23:12 (eleven years ago) link

so many records...

scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2013 23:14 (eleven years ago) link

Byron C. told me he was gonna be writing the authorized SY bio. that's the only new SY info I have to share. should be interesting!

scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

i'd be bummed if georgia hubley and ira kaplan broke up i suppose

damn, dont even suggest it dude. i couldnt handle being deprived of their boring-ass crap

turds (Hungry4Ass), Monday, 22 April 2013 23:17 (eleven years ago) link

Ooh a third SY bio, this one authorized!

da croupier, Monday, 22 April 2013 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

i'd probably read it. I like Byron. he's like the 6th beatle or whatever. I don't honestly know how interesting all their stories are. Thurston grew up near me so I know how bored he was. that's about it.

scott seward, Monday, 22 April 2013 23:26 (eleven years ago) link

I have faith in Byron to make it all awesome

Raymond Cummings, Monday, 22 April 2013 23:27 (eleven years ago) link

i read whatever one came out in 2008

markers, Monday, 22 April 2013 23:28 (eleven years ago) link

Tbf, his ex-wife's side of the story is almost guaranteed to.

Also, he can't have been particularly rich per se, could he?

― EveningStar (Sund4r), Monday, April 22, 2013 7:09 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

she kind of subtly eviscerates him with that double life/lost soul line.

huun huurt 2 (Hurting 2), Monday, 22 April 2013 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

I liked Trees Outside the Academy a lot more than the last couple of SY albums...

― Gavin, Leeds, Monday, April 22, 2013 2:50 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

didn't mind Demolished Thoughts.

― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn)

i often have trouble with thurston's lyrics (never his guitars), esp this side of y2k, but these two are damn good

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Monday, 22 April 2013 23:55 (eleven years ago) link

I totally care about them as a couple, it was part of the appeal. I totally care about the gossipy nature of their breakup, too. And he's a cad for fucking around on her, even if she was doing it to him too.

The scorned woman always earns the most empathy.

The Great Natterer (dandydonweiner), Monday, 22 April 2013 23:57 (eleven years ago) link

i don't really have an opinion on the breakup. i'm sure it's difficult for them, and i'm disappointed about what it portends for their creative collaboration, but i figure the rest is theirs and no business of mine.

I have many lovely lacy nightgowns (contenderizer), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:02 (eleven years ago) link

They put their relationship--creatively and personally--into the public narrative, including this latest part. Price of fame.

The Great Natterer (dandydonweiner), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

I don't really think that's true. It's not in any songs, not really in any interviews I've read either.

my mental killfile seems to be working (sleeve), Tuesday, 23 April 2013 00:08 (eleven years ago) link


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