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Yeah, I found I'm wasn't so enthusiastic about this first listen. Reminded of No Doubt at times in not a good way.

MikoMcha, Friday, 5 April 2013 11:20 (eleven years ago) link

I want to clarify that by stating that Brand New Eyes is still a regular go to album for me. Love it more and more over time.

MikoMcha, Friday, 5 April 2013 11:31 (eleven years ago) link

Evan R is otm as far as my first impressions of this album goes - I wanted some tunes with that 'canned heaviness' and the super sharp sound they had. Love BNE.. admittedly I did expect a departure since they specifically talked about some of my favorite songs as types this wouldn't include.

Getting over that there's a lot of enjoy and they still sound like Paramore frequently. Take away the interludes and I can't find too many weakness, really. It's good. Wouldn't mind if Hayley got a bit angry again for their next release, tho.

abcfsk, Friday, 5 April 2013 12:25 (eleven years ago) link

i think it's her voice, it's the same tone all the time

There's some truth to this. Also think it's her phrasing, too. She falls back on the same phrasing a lot, which can make even dissimilar songs bleed together

Evan R, Friday, 5 April 2013 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

Brand New Eyes is still my favorite, but the more time I spend with this one I'm glad it's not a straight reduxe. That album was so tight and focused, but I'm enjoying how loose and leisurely this one is.

Evan R, Friday, 5 April 2013 14:31 (eleven years ago) link

i was really disappointed with brand new eyes at the time bc after how sharp and individual "ignorance" sounded the rest seemed kind of uniform and dull

got over that eventually, but that's definitely not an issue with this record

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Friday, 5 April 2013 15:17 (eleven years ago) link

The chorus to 'Proof' really does it for me.

abcfsk, Saturday, 6 April 2013 08:20 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pC_-rhKaO0

abcfsk, Saturday, 6 April 2013 08:34 (eleven years ago) link

idk why everything i hear by this band just slides off my brain when stuff in the same ballpark by lindsay lohan, ashlee simpson etc ends up as all-time classic jams

listening now and, like when i listened to their last one, nooooooothing is sticking

― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, April 5, 2013 11:13 AM (Yesterday) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I wonder if at least one point of distinction is that Lindsay, Ashlee etc. are stars - both in the literal sense of being celebrities but also in that their music is organised around their personalities which the songs present as exceptional, or at least exemplary - they feel the pain that we feel, but they feel it more intensely than we do, they feel it for us.

Whereas I feel with Hayley it's like, she kinda only exists as the personality of the song, I take away no particular interest in her as a fully functioning coherent identity distinct from what she brings to each song. And yet she fills each song completely and perfectly.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link

I SHOULD BE OVER ALL THE BUTTERFLIIIIIIIIIIES

markers, Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link

i really have no idea of ashlee as a celebrity, when i first heard her all i knew was that she was the sister of another pop star i didn't care about much. still don't, really.

listening to paramore i always feel like the singer and personality are buried pretty deeply in the mix, to the songs' detriment

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:34 (eleven years ago) link

like she may well be selling the song but it's so indistinct that i almost can't hear her properly

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

xxpost YES that line is awesome.

Also abcfsk knows what's up w/r/t "Proof".

Tim F, Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:35 (eleven years ago) link

I'm not saying you care about Ashlee b/c she's literally a celebrity, I'm saying her music is designed to emphasise her personality. Whereas I think Paramore's music does something else - I'd cautiously agree with "the singer and personality are buried pretty deeply in the mix" except I don't think it's detrimental.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

More like, Hayley's performance are just an extension of the song qua song, like a guitar solo or awesome drum attack.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

performances even.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link

i suspect that it might take a proper big hit to make them click with me à la carly rae jepsen

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

(who also only exists as the personality of the song)

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

lots of thematic agreements amongst hayley's songs tho, espesh from brand new eyes on when half of them become about the band (but still tie in to pre-tumult obsessions like self-doubt and fear of being a bad person and faith or unfaith in people or god and her near-religious belief in the importance of being in a rock band). they aren't a Lyrics Band and hayley's not a great writer but if you know specifically what feelings she's overcoming by willing herself to be a rock star sometimes it's more thrilling.

"proof" is my favorite on here i think.

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:43 (eleven years ago) link

Yes Carly is a very good point of comparison for the distinction I was thinking of!

Did you ever hear "Misery Business" though? That was their big hit in the US (I think due to appearing in Twilight).

lots of thematic agreements amongst hayley's songs tho, espesh from brand new eyes on when half of them become about the band (but still tie in to pre-tumult obsessions like self-doubt and fear of being a bad person and faith or unfaith in people or god and her near-religious belief in the importance of being in a rock band). they aren't a Lyrics Band and hayley's not a great writer but if you know specifically what feelings she's overcoming by willing herself to be a rock star sometimes it's more thrilling.

yes absolutely, but I think this almost heightens the effect I'm referring to? It's like she's spirit animal of the band's music.

Tim F, Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

i've heard "misery business" but can't remember anything about it, every paramore song i've heard i've had to actively go seeking out - they've never had any hit big enough for me to have heard in the wild

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

totally! xp

the white queen and her caustic judgments (difficult listening hour), Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

FTR Lex I don't really expect you to change your mind on this regardless of what you hear. I was asking about "Misery Business" because I expected that you'd have heard it and still have been underwhelmed.

"Misery Business" was huge over here, though very belatedly. I heard it on the radio constantly. Was Twilight hype not a big deal in the UK?

Tim F, Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link

big but ignorable

flamenco drop (lex pretend), Saturday, 6 April 2013 21:56 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRixVfrXhXs

abcfsk, Sunday, 7 April 2013 02:19 (eleven years ago) link

The lyrics may be better on this album but BNE was so.. interesting. The way it was pitched as a 'we're over our troubles' album but the lyrics were clearly full of anger and spite and conflict, which turned out to reflect the mood of the band. Add what dlh mentions about added conflict with her faith and you end up with an album where I was constantly listening to the lyrics when ipodding the album on my way to work.

abcfsk, Sunday, 7 April 2013 02:24 (eleven years ago) link

http://yelyahwilliams.tumblr.com/post/47380538039

markers, Sunday, 7 April 2013 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

misery business was pre-twilight

maura, Sunday, 7 April 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

Yes but in Australia it only became big after the film. Australia and the UK tend to be analogous in such things. Obv that doesn't apply to the US.

Tim F, Sunday, 7 April 2013 23:48 (eleven years ago) link

music video coming in tonight

markers, Monday, 8 April 2013 04:35 (eleven years ago) link

http://instagram.com/p/X0zQVbnTsp/

markers, Monday, 8 April 2013 04:36 (eleven years ago) link

god, "ain't it fun"

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 April 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

my only thoughts on this album so far because i can't get past this song

J0rdan S., Monday, 8 April 2013 21:25 (eleven years ago) link

dittttto

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Monday, 8 April 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

My song of the year so far

Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 03:27 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OblL026SvD4

markers, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 04:09 (eleven years ago) link

so much better than the now video

markers, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 04:09 (eleven years ago) link

so much better than the now video

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Tuesday, 9 April 2013 06:47 (eleven years ago) link

The two deluxe bonus tracks are good.

abcfsk, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

the way she pronounces "bubble" on "ain't it fun" is fucking weird as hell tho

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 April 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

it sounds like "beelblew"

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 9 April 2013 16:22 (eleven years ago) link

This album's stylistic sprawl makes me wonder how much material Paramore wrote/recorded for the album that didn't get used. Feels like they could be sitting on almost an album's worth of awesome extras

Evan R, Tuesday, 9 April 2013 16:37 (eleven years ago) link

all the butterfliiiiiiiies

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 21:49 (eleven years ago) link

^lots of ppl making tswift references which i don't totally get, i made a tiny los campesinos! ref because i like to do that but today i've been thinking about just how apt a reference they are

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 21:50 (eleven years ago) link

um. i didn't realize everyone was making taylor references?

los campesinos! are sonically pretty apt.

i brought up taylor because of the particular subject matter of this song, which is something that...i dunno. not many other people do?

there are lots of pop songs about seduction or breakups but songs about blissful uncomplicated love, new or old or otherwise seem slightly less present these days? maybe i'm being crazy. anyway other than this track and some taylor stuff and the delightful new ariana grande froth that flips a big pun sample i can't think of many recent happy love songs. cher lloyd had a few last year or the year before? mindless behaviour and one direction maybe? but boybands still seem walled off from the pop mainstream in north america in ways that paramore no longer do?

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 22:03 (eleven years ago) link

anyway, this is great this album is great, the back half has opened up to me 'Proof' is wonderful, even the ballads are evoking feelings from me. wonderful stuff.

twinkin' and drinkin' and ready to fly (Alex in Montreal), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 22:04 (eleven years ago) link

Love every track on this now. Even the interludes.

Tim F, Wednesday, 10 April 2013 22:09 (eleven years ago) link

it wasn't a knock alex! i was just surprised to see so many refs when nothing in the song struck me as particularly swifty until i read the blurbs

infirm neophytic child (zachlyon), Wednesday, 10 April 2013 22:13 (eleven years ago) link

Thug life

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 11 April 2013 00:32 (eleven years ago) link

it always seemed like a self-evidently great album, but the fact that it's help up this well makes it even more remarkable.

so otm

The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 11 July 2016 02:56 (seven years ago) link

now when you say you wanna slow down
does it mean you wanna slow dance?
maybe you just want a little extra time to focus
on our romance?

le Histoire du Edgy Miley (difficult listening hour), Monday, 11 July 2016 03:11 (seven years ago) link

Huh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5-2vYI7cnaQ

Evan R, Wednesday, 13 July 2016 19:33 (seven years ago) link

one month passes...

I finally like this album! It only took a few years.

a serious and fascinating fartist (Simon H.), Wednesday, 7 September 2016 03:09 (seven years ago) link

two years pass...

hard to believe we ever got a song as good as “grow up”

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 23 December 2018 07:12 (five years ago) link

we get alonnnnnnnng

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 23 December 2018 07:13 (five years ago) link

this is the best album ever made

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 23 December 2018 07:22 (five years ago) link

"part II" is my fave

resident hack (Simon H.), Sunday, 23 December 2018 07:24 (five years ago) link

“part ii” is perfect, a sequel song that renders the original pointless

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 23 December 2018 07:28 (five years ago) link

i mean i like “let the flames begin” but let’s be real

jolene club remix (BradNelson), Sunday, 23 December 2018 07:28 (five years ago) link

this is the best album ever made

― jolene club remix (BradNelson)

I support this message.

Nourry, Monday, 24 December 2018 13:26 (five years ago) link

one year passes...

Living in the rw

calstars, Sunday, 1 November 2020 23:59 (three years ago) link

one year passes...

Whaddaya gonna do when the world don’t open up around you?

calstars, Saturday, 24 September 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

AN-KLE-BI-TERS

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 24 September 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link

fall in love with yourself

peace, man, Monday, 26 September 2022 12:43 (one year ago) link

just like i claim i am

― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Tuesday, December 8, 2015 6:32 AM bookmarkflaglink

difficult listening hour, Thursday, 29 September 2022 12:59 (one year ago) link

Somethings just, somethings just make sense and one of those is that this is the best album ever

Tim F, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 10:01 (one year ago) link


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