Minor differences.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 04:23 (eleven years ago) link
One of the most impractical pieces of music i know of is a 3-pc 50-minute Guyuto Monk chant that resonates and echoes far more impressively in the silence that follows the end of it's audition. I imagine that "Old Dreams Waiting to Be Realized" is an entire album side, and thus (will require a new slab of vinyl, and), should only be continued once the listener can reconcile themselves to a new thought. Five minutes of silence would seem appropriate, but, to each their own.
Reference: The Gyuto Monks: Freedom Chants from the Roof of the World
― bodacious ignoramus, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 04:29 (eleven years ago) link
They should do real songs instead of mindless drones.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 07:28 (eleven years ago) link
bloody hipster monks.
After seeing the horror on display everywhere I was surprised to like the drone piece, I like drone generally but even beyond that this seemed narratively interesting in a way that drone often isn't. But I'll have to save my thoughts on how it sits in the album as a whole for when I haven't fallen asleep a couple of tracks after it.
― a similar stunt failed to work with a cow (Merdeyeux), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 07:36 (eleven years ago) link
I don't get the vibe that this isn't a classic-sounding knife album. It's The Knife's general sound decomposed of its pop melodies/elements. The drone piece mirrors/was prefaced by tracks like "The Captain" on Silent Shout, tracks that took awhile to get to the melody/heart of the piece and showed their ability for restraint. This is like that magnified. Moving through the entirety of it is pretty awesome, especially prefaced by the assault of "Crake," and outro-ed with silence, as someone mentioned upthread. And then followed up with a gentle melody and emotional lyrics. It's an experience and a space, not a pop song, as others have noted too. And the third or fourth song is reminiscent of the sounds used on "Kino" in their debut. Distorted voices, brassy sounds, steel drums punctuating the tracks; very The Knife.
― mox twelve, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:48 (eleven years ago) link
*Moving through the drone piece
― mox twelve, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 08:49 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I'm not sure this is as radical a departure from Silent Shout as is being made out, there are a lot of familiar elements in here that have been arranged into more awkward shapes, but it's very defineably a Knife album.
Not going to listen to this again until I can do so on headphones though.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:03 (eleven years ago) link
def thought of "the captain" at several points on this
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 09:12 (eleven years ago) link
Everybody will find this cool at a first listening but few will feel like revisiting the 98 minutes of this record again
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:29 (eleven years ago) link
Hmm. Does that make me one of the few, then?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:36 (eleven years ago) link
I really liked about a third of this and was underwhelmed by the rest but I can tell it'll be a grower
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 13:37 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, since Tomorrow in a Year is the only other Knife album I own, this actually seems like a step back in comparison.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
I like the atmosphere of this album and I don't have problems with long tracks. But I don't see strong hooks there.
― Shin Oliva Suzuki, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 14:10 (eleven years ago) link
Her singing sounds a bit like Kim Gordon in some of these new tunes
― Moodles, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
Ha! I was thinking the same.
― Fetchboy, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
currently loving Stay Out Here, feels a lot like a Chris & Cosey track circa Trance
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
surprisingly great record for a long run.
― illegalblues, Thursday, 4 April 2013 17:43 (eleven years ago) link
the association with Jane's Addiction makes the album title annoying
― nostormo, Thursday, 4 April 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
apparently there'll be a rough trade bonus cd with remixes from pursuit grooves, rroxymore and COOLY G omggggg
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 April 2013 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
rroxymore released this pretty good single on dfa last year
http://soundcloud.com/dfa-records/rroxymore-wheel-of-fortune
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Thursday, 4 April 2013 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
Listening for the first time away from a 128kbps stream and OOFT. So much better. That extra level of dynamics really ups the listenability.My Coil reference earlier seems pretty spot on. "Old Dreams Waiting To Be Realised" is basically "Queen of the Circulating Library" without the kitsch voiceover.
― Oblique Strategies, Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
Not so much a dream collaboration of Bjork, Dead Can Dance, and Coil as their collaborative mixtape.
― Me So Hormetic (Sanpaku), Thursday, 4 April 2013 20:21 (eleven years ago) link
I'm predicting Pitchfork gives this 8.7
― crowhurst, Friday, 5 April 2013 10:38 (eleven years ago) link
Guardian gives it three stars. Lucky to get that really, from what I've heard.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 5 April 2013 10:43 (eleven years ago) link
https://soundcloud.com/dazedandconfused/the-knife-a-tooth-for-an-eye
^ Cooly G remix
― I am using your worlds, Friday, 5 April 2013 12:08 (eleven years ago) link
WTF was up with all that "we did a lot of research about gender politics" line in interviews? How does that manifest itself?
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 5 April 2013 12:51 (eleven years ago) link
that remix is great
i like the way cooly's line of thinking appears to have been "first i'm going to change the beat, then i'm going to change everything else about the song"
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Friday, 5 April 2013 12:53 (eleven years ago) link
Three acts I wouldn't mind never hearing again in my life.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Friday, 5 April 2013 12:59 (eleven years ago) link
http://www.spin.com/articles/the-knife-shaking-the-habitual-interview
― 乒乓, Friday, 5 April 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
these folks are so rad
― relentless technosexuality (DJP), Friday, 5 April 2013 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
The album's "Old Dreams" creates a strong contrast with the more rhythmic material on the album. It's long, it's quiet, you need to turn up the volume for it — it's really the opposite of the way people listen to music on YouTube and their phones.
no disrespect to Phil but you know, I don't see how occasionally using my phone or YouTube suddenly mean I don't have a volume dial or a brain.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Friday, 5 April 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
well you dont
― 乒乓, Friday, 5 April 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
are you saying i don't have a brain or making a point about volume dials? i'm on yellow alert here.
― Tioc Norris (LocalGarda), Friday, 5 April 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
Her's the Pursuit Grooves remix - http://www.gorillavsbear.net/2013/04/05/premiere-the-knife-a-tooth-for-an-eye-pursuit-grooves-remix/
― tarping, Friday, 5 April 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
the german spiegel online gave this 9.5, i don't think they give such high notes very often.
― it's the distortion, stupid! (alex in mainhattan), Friday, 5 April 2013 17:53 (eleven years ago) link
Was in Bristol yesterday and Rise Records had the CDs of this on sale already, so I picked up the double. Just stuck it on the big hifi and it sounds AMAZING. Not heard a note except very very distractedly on 6music prior, so coming into this blind.
― they all are afflicted with a sickness of existence (Scik Mouthy), Sunday, 7 April 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
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― relentless technosexuality (DJP), Monday, 8 April 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
*dies of shock*
― 乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 15:31 (eleven years ago) link
Was expecting them to get excited enough to 9.something it, honestly.
― Evan, Monday, 8 April 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
i dont really get why they would give it 8.4 and best new music when there are albums that get more than that and dont get BNM? do they basically have to give it that honor because it's ~The Knife~?
― zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 8 April 2013 15:42 (eleven years ago) link
BNM doesnt correlate completely with scores
― 乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 15:45 (eleven years ago) link
youll have to ask a pitchforkologist but i think like, a high 8 score but no BNM means 'really good genre album'
― 乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 15:46 (eleven years ago) link
whereas a 'MBDTF' means "we're gonna troll everybody and get some of those unique ip addresses by putting a '1' in front of the '0.0'"
― 乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
lots of backhanded slaps at their first album in that review
― zero dark (s1ocki), Monday, 8 April 2013 15:53 (eleven years ago) link
Listened to this album this morning... enjoyed it for the most part, but probably won't be listening to the whole thing in one sitting too often.
― The Jupiter 8 (Turrican), Monday, 8 April 2013 15:56 (eleven years ago) link
that review pisses me off because the debut is so so so so SO much better than Deep Cuts
― relentless technosexuality (DJP), Monday, 8 April 2013 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
Keith Fullerton Whitman's Playthroughs received a 9.7 about the time Best New Music was just starting but did not receive the distinction. I asked Ryan Schreiber about this once and although he said he personally loved the album, it simply didn't have wide enough appeal to merit a BNM.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Monday, 8 April 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
haha i was waiting for u to post that and on cue xp
― 乒乓, Monday, 8 April 2013 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
lol
I mean, I do love "Pass This On" and "You Make Me Like Charity" and "You Take My Breath Away" etc but "Heartbeats" is overrated and most of the other fantastic songs are Hannah Med H material
meanwhile the debut has gloriously weird, understated stuff like "Neon", "Lasagna", "A Lung", "NY Hotel" and "Reindeer", all of which pretty clearly signpost the various odd directions they've branched out in starting with Silent Shout
― relentless technosexuality (DJP), Monday, 8 April 2013 16:02 (eleven years ago) link
Does anyone actually care what does and doesn't go into BNM other than lamers who want to be spoonfed everything?
― Matt DC, Monday, 8 April 2013 16:09 (eleven years ago) link