I love how much some of this is going to annoy people. Already seeing people on facebook saying 'I COULDN'T MAKE IT THROUGH THE 20 MINUTE TRACK AND TURNED IT OFF OMG'
it's pretty intense.
― Jamie_ATP, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
intense like a nightclub in the movie "the crow"
― caek, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:52 (eleven years ago) link
So it sounds like Medicine?
― MarkoP, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 15:57 (eleven years ago) link
wishing this song would end, pt 3
― Dominique, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
sigh already tired of how ~divisive~ this will be
i think the high points are quite astonishingly high, and also the 20-minute drone is useless, as is the 10-minute fracking one, and whatever the other drone one was
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
'Wrap Your Arms Around Me' sounds a lot like Dead Can Dance! enjoying this so far
― ( X '____' )/ (zappi), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:23 (eleven years ago) link
"Networking" is immense but v much like an Oni Ayhun track.
― I am using your worlds, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 16:32 (eleven years ago) link
They've sort of made a techno version of the last couple of Scott Walker records. Probably why I like it so much.
― Oblique Strategies, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 17:08 (eleven years ago) link
what I might like most about this is how it stops people using the lazy description "this sounds like the Knife" for EVERYTHING
― katherine, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
until everything starts sounding like this
― bish (bosch), don't kill my vibe (rennavate), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
this is pretty wack
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 2 April 2013 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
Might sound crazy but this sure as hell feels like a new Creatures album, and I mean that with full approval. Now that Siouxsie and Budgie are pretty well split on all levels, this doesn't so much take its place as stakes out its own particular space. Anyway, this is great stuff.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:20 (eleven years ago) link
Given they're not actually that good at ambient/drone, I'm not sure we really need 35mins or so of it here. The rest I'm still getting my head around.
― Matt DC, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
I'm enjoying said drone...but I would.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
I like the drone too. The long one sounds like Chatham's Two Gongs.
― Oblique Strategies, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 18:41 (eleven years ago) link
loving the drums on this. the ambient tracks aren't bad, but drag a little. all in all, they create a great atmosphere for the record, though.
― illegalblues, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
"without you my life would be boring", "wrap your arms around me", "stay out here" and "ready to lose" are stunning imo
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 20:47 (eleven years ago) link
It will have to be a banner year for this not to make my best of 2013 list.
― suspecterrain, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:06 (eleven years ago) link
Third full listen and this is a phenomenal piece of work. Can't wait to spend some time with this on headphones. It's moved the goalposts so far ahead of everyone that copied them over the past few years. And fortunately for me even further into the dark foreboding territory that I am a total sucker for.
― Oblique Strategies, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:20 (eleven years ago) link
would like to read an enthusiastic defence of the 19-min drone
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:23 (eleven years ago) link
It sets the stage for "Raging Lung" really well
― Doctor Madame Frances Experimento, LLC", Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:33 (eleven years ago) link
you can't kill that many civilians in just 19 minutes
― 乒乓, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:37 (eleven years ago) link
actually "fracking fluid injection" might be more indefensible
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, i guess it sounds like fracking might? well done?
Old Dreams would be totally fine if it was no longer than five minutes long. It kind of reminds me of the Chromatics album which has a great start but then half way through is just killed by those boring instrumental tracks. Like that album I think this would be just brilliant if it was edited down.
Agree with Lex that Without you my life would be boring and Wrap your arms around me are amazing.
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:42 (eleven years ago) link
can someone make a gif of sunglasses falling onto an unmanned drone & then it says "drone with it"
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
I believe "Old Dreams Waiting to be Realized" could easily supplant some of the soundtrack currently used near the end 2001: A Space Odyssey, particularly, the Star Gate sequence.
― bodacious ignoramus, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 21:53 (eleven years ago) link
My defense of the drone is simple. It places the band in a context of "the Coil that mainstream music press talk about" instead of "the M83 that make you uncomofortable" and I like Coil a fuck of a lot more than M83.It basically guarantees you can't approach this as a pop record. Forces you to evaluate what they're doing by a different set of yardsticks.
― Oblique Strategies, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:07 (eleven years ago) link
oh so it's not to do with the music then
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
i'm into the drone now
it's a nice lil drone
there are little things that happen, noises and chittering and stuffit's a nice quality drone so far
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:21 (eleven years ago) link
around 10 some rhythmic tones and melody comes in
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:23 (eleven years ago) link
Lex, my defense of the drone would be - I like drone, drone is good. I like this drone in this context.
Assuming that most people's dislike is based on them not liking drone I was defending it's use in context.
― Oblique Strategies, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
13 mins the drone is growing more powerfuli fear it may consume us all
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:25 (eleven years ago) link
16 the drone grows stronger stillnow what sounds like tapping on hollow pieces of woodsome static in the right channel
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:29 (eleven years ago) link
built to a nice climaxnow it's done
nice drone! it's not formless, had development and drama, would drone again
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:31 (eleven years ago) link
leeds quite nicely into the next song "Raging Lung", which has a bit of a Flowers of Romance vibe
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:32 (eleven years ago) link
Really interested to see how this will be review this week. It's only had six reviews on there so far but at the moment it has 89 on Metacritic. Silent Shout only got 74. I love that going through the Silent Shout ratings you get to Q magazine's one star review right at the bottom..
A hideous mess of electro noodling and maddeningly obtuse, tuneless vocals. [May 2006, p.126]
I wonder just what they'll make of this one?
― Kitchen Person, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:39 (eleven years ago) link
i like how the last seconds of raging lung segue back into a short drone, seems like it's all pretty planned out and sequenced in a cool way. drone is great!
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:41 (eleven years ago) link
but yeah i think the drone is interesting in itself and also i think makes the album feel different more expansive and better for what it does to the pacing, don't know if that's what u wanted lex but i have positive feelings about it and i'm not some hussy that falls for every drone i meet
― ums (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
If you insist...
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 22:52 (eleven years ago) link
Really getting into A Cherry on Top
― Fetchboy, Tuesday, 2 April 2013 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
would have been a cool april fools day joke if pitchfork had put up the stream yday but it was actually jane's addiction - ritual de lo habitual
― zero dark (s1ocki), Tuesday, 2 April 2013 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
does everyone know that 7. "Old Dreams Waiting to Be Realized" 19:22 is not included with the standard CD issue of this album. it is only going to be on the deluxe version for around $10 more and comes with a two CD set.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00B9JDBSY/ref=s9_simh_gw_p15_d0_i1?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_r=04WJ99XAASTT9CAJ3CQS&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=470938811&pf_rd_i=507846
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:38 (eleven years ago) link
$6.85 isn't really "around $10"
― I am using your worlds, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:41 (eleven years ago) link
i was going from memory but $7 was close
― Bee OK, Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:43 (eleven years ago) link
like I wasn't buying the deluxe version of this album no matter what
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:48 (eleven years ago) link
Really liked this on first listen to the Pitchfork stream but I couldn't get the 19-min track to play all the way through despite trying several times. I take it no one else had trouble?
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
everyone else had trouble because everyone who bought all of the other Knife albums was trying to stream this today
― the pheromones of hot clothing (DJP), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:56 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, OK, fair point.
― EveningStar (Sund4r), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 02:57 (eleven years ago) link
I'm really enjoying “Wrap Your Arms Around Me”. I was going to say that the track sounds sorta-Dead Can Dance-ish, but reading Ned's remark about The Creatures I can totally see that too.
― theskysgoneout (Jason Pitzl-Waters), Wednesday, 3 April 2013 03:23 (eleven years ago) link
I hope they reunite for Coachella.
― Herbie Handcock (Murgatroid), Thursday, 21 August 2014 22:59 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I'm not really going to read too much into this "break up", considering it's on good terms and there was such a long interval between Silent Shout and Shaking the Habitual. I'd be surprised if they never made any music together again.
― uxorious gazumping (monotony), Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:14 (nine years ago) link
Yeah I am not surprised at all with them ending the Knife, which seems to be a better way to describe than a 'break up'.
Pretty cool that their last show will be in Iceland.
― Van Horn Street, Thursday, 21 August 2014 23:22 (nine years ago) link
bummed as they are so great together. still we might still have Fever Ray, so not all is lost.
― Bee OK, Friday, 22 August 2014 01:35 (nine years ago) link
Not as The Knife: https://vooruit.be/en/show/detail/9505/Ful_The_Knife
― StanM, Saturday, 7 February 2015 11:48 (nine years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jMXZBPW-Q0
― StanM, Saturday, 7 February 2015 11:49 (nine years ago) link
I immediately like this more than everything on TIAD + STH
― StanM, Saturday, 7 February 2015 12:45 (nine years ago) link
more news - http://d-e-f.com/2015/01/23/def-2015-knife/
― StanM, Sunday, 8 February 2015 11:32 (nine years ago) link
Seems weird they're doing just one Europa Europa show, keeping my fingers crossed for some additional dates...
― willem, Sunday, 8 February 2015 11:37 (nine years ago) link
This turned ten years old a few weeks ago
― Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Sunday, 14 May 2023 02:21 (one year ago) link
!
― kinder, Sunday, 14 May 2023 07:17 (one year ago) link
Right? It's still a recent album to me. Although maybe the time is demarcated by how pivotal it felt at the time compared to how little I think about it or want to play it these days. Maybe it's to do with the album's topics now having become much more mainstream and centre-table than at the time? Although I can't remember a time when financial equality and gender rights weren't big topics?
― Do I look like I know what a jpeg is? (dog latin), Sunday, 14 May 2023 09:05 (one year ago) link
feels like 10 years ago tbh
― nashwan, Sunday, 14 May 2023 09:23 (one year ago) link
these two posts above sum things up pretty well imo
― winters (josh), Sunday, 14 May 2023 23:38 (one year ago) link
Favourite album of the last ten years (plus a few weeks)
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 15 May 2023 01:43 (one year ago) link