― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:08 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:09 (twenty years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:10 (twenty years ago) link
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:10 (twenty years ago) link
This was Rush's argument too. And Genesis. And Yes.
LeRoi Jones - Blue People
Read it motherfuckers.
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 04:11 (twenty years ago) link
― the surface noise (electricsound), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:11 (twenty years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:12 (twenty years ago) link
― Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:14 (twenty years ago) link
And Anthony Braxton, Cornel West, Toni Morrison, and a bunch of other people too.
― o. nate (onate), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:14 (twenty years ago) link
― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:14 (twenty years ago) link
*cue ddrake: 'Ha ha, where is your sense of humor, dork, etc.'*
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:17 (twenty years ago) link
Seriously Ned, read Blues People.To quote big lebowski.
"You're out of yr element donnie."
Bam.
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 04:19 (twenty years ago) link
James who started the thread - have you heard Kid Koala, or Peanut Butter Wolf's My Vinyl Weighs a Ton?
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:19 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:19 (twenty years ago) link
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 04:20 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:20 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:21 (twenty years ago) link
and while you're at it don't miss Mr. Baraka's insightful, inspiring poem about the WTC disaster
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:22 (twenty years ago) link
Is the so called "progressive" really all that progressive?
And yet, Blues People is a more incredible work than anything anyone on ILM has accomplished...a more important work as well. That I can't believe more of you haven't read.Baraka Rock-a's.
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 04:25 (twenty years ago) link
ddrake exposes his secret rockist heart non-shockah!
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:28 (twenty years ago) link
I'm not gonna get much support here from the ILM regs, even if some of them agree with me, so I'ma bounce and get some homework done.Gimme a book report on Blues People, Ned. Word.
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 04:31 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:32 (twenty years ago) link
And yet, The Decameron is a more complex work than Jones/Baraka has produced...wft is your point? If people can't write masterpieces, they shouldn't say anything? Not that I'm conceding Blues People (which I have read, ages ago, thanks so much) is a masterpiece, just wondering if it's your opinion that only the authors of masterpieces should talk.
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:33 (twenty years ago) link
If you've read it, you clearly haven't comprehended it.
And yet, The Decameron is a more complex work than Jones/Baraka has produced...wft is your point? If people can't write masterpieces, they shouldn't say anything? Not that I'm conceding Blues People (which I have read, ages ago, thanks so much) is a masterpiece, just wondering if it's your opinion that only the authors of masterpieces should talk
And how does an article about the WTC relate to anything we're talking about in this thread? You were using it to discredit his OTHER book, which I believe has relevence in this conversation.
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 04:35 (twenty years ago) link
John, this is the same person who thinks he needs to know everything and anything about a genre before commenting on it properly and yet is more than happy to accuse you of knowing nothing about something if you happen to have general conclusions that don't match with his own. And yes, that includes assuming you haven't read something he has, because obviously only he knows about it and is more than happy to tell you at high volume if necessary. If arguing with Geir is like punching Jello, arguing with ddrake is like punching stinky Jello that complains about your sense of humor as well and then gets bitter and hides.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:36 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:37 (twenty years ago) link
This is not good proof of your omniscience.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:37 (twenty years ago) link
― Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:38 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:39 (twenty years ago) link
Nihilist Pop Star I dunno if that was for one, some or all of us on this thread which showed ilx at its worst, refusing to give a straight answer to somebody whose question was a fine, honest question, but either way, that's one awesome picture
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:39 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:40 (twenty years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:40 (twenty years ago) link
Ned is clearly someone who thinks he comprehends what I am saying without actually listening to what I am saying. "Cultural Context" = "Knowing everything about a genre"?"high volume"? We're on a message board. Congratulations, you have better hearing than I.Personal attack, comparison to the village idiot, hilarious.
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 04:41 (twenty years ago) link
What a "rockist" perspective of literature! R Kelly is a pedophile, therefore I no longer can listen to the Ignition Remix.
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 04:43 (twenty years ago) link
HAHAHA! You picked the wrong example there! But John can do the honors.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:43 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:44 (twenty years ago) link
Your relevence to this thread's discussion is nonexistent.Its like 5th grade again! Gang up on me and take my lunch money, please.
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 04:44 (twenty years ago) link
again, not sure those really answer the question per se but are worth checking out. the only example of #1 i can think of at the moment is the roots, "water" off phrenology, which i think is consciously an evocation of prog in a hip hop context.
#2 i don't know of any off the top of my head but i would love to hear this attempted. why not?
#4 try digging into non-western hip hop, you're certain to hear some more unusual flows that way.
― rgeary (rgeary), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:45 (twenty years ago) link
Fine, but that's a very arguable position - not one you can "Bam!" as though revealing the Truth From On High. I'd argue that context limits the capacity for insight, and a fair number of people who think about reading/interpretation would tend to agree.
Ned I'm assuming he read the Ignition thread, but to discredit the example: if Kelly wrote songs that were as wretched as his behavior, that'd be different. When a writer adds something wretched to his body of work, it's fair to reevaluate that entire body of work and individual texts within it. Bam!
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:45 (twenty years ago) link
cue Momus's entrance
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:46 (twenty years ago) link
And for today, class, the word to spell correctly is 'relevance.'
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:46 (twenty years ago) link
― Nihilist Pop Star (mjt), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:46 (twenty years ago) link
― rob geary (rgeary), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:47 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:48 (twenty years ago) link
― cinniblount (James Blount), Monday, 17 November 2003 04:49 (twenty years ago) link
lots of examples of what OP was looking for
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sIOqbWdOyg
― reggie (qualmsley), Thursday, 18 July 2013 08:43 (ten years ago) link
Is there even a record label for this shit anymore?
― how's life, Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:34 (ten years ago) link
yes, it's called bandcamp
― precious bonsai children of new york (Jordan), Thursday, 18 July 2013 15:35 (ten years ago) link
ddrake, my comment towards you was much more addressed at your lame putdowns than anything else. Totally fucking cringeworthy. The error was in not singling out anyone else because a good 85% of this thread reads like a transcript of the time trials for the 2004 Cringelympics.Sadly, because life is deeply unfair, I have no interest or desire in going back and singling out everyone on the thread who was acting the ass, so you'll have to settle for the following:
ATTENTION ILM PLEASE EAT A GIGANTIC DISEASED DICK OK THX
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, November 17, 2003 12:02 PM Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Neanderthal, Thursday, 8 September 2016 05:37 (seven years ago) link
https://twitter.com/KINGS0L0M0N/status/797995621273792512
― pre millennial tension (uptown churl), Monday, 14 November 2016 16:26 (seven years ago) link
Now when you look up at the stars in the skyIt's really, the dandruff from my nuts, so fuck itI got the rhymes and my rhymes are dope
― fuck the NRA (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 16 January 2019 04:42 (five years ago) link
5 minutes of talking about hip hop on this board and I feel like killing everyone.
new old board description
― Lover of Nixon (or LON for short) (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 November 2020 06:17 (three years ago) link
perhaps you are unfamiliar with the concept of "the rump" and why it needs to be "backed up".
― budo jeru, Friday, 20 November 2020 07:06 (three years ago) link
Yes my dick, is longer than an Amtrak, train!Runnin, from here, to Maine!Nonstop - I rock rock and I shockMy dick is so big, that you can call the copsYou can call the National Guard, the Army and the NavyBut yo yo yo baby, my dick is really bigIt's long, it's longer, it's longest, it's biggestIt's me, I even beat beat up the Jolly Green Giant with itCause his shit was smallerI was standin off the edge of a bridgeand it was hangin in the water!! GOD DAMN MY DICK IS LARGE!It's large, it's large, my shit is fuckin large!
― fentanyl young (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 January 2023 23:52 (one year ago) link