was thinking to myself how sci-fi mainstream rap & r&b production has become recently and it could be mostly attributed to this guy
― tpp, Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:48 (eleven years ago) link
i like the comment (forget who) htat this guy became big once everybody started taking molly and stopped taking lean
― 乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
it sounds like lean AND club drugs
― C: (crüt), Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
yah... i think i just made that last part up
― 乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
Doesn't Noah "40" Shebib use a lot of low-pass filters in his stuff?
― MarkoP, Thursday, 14 March 2013 20:30 (eleven years ago) link
true, but not nearly as well. he kinda uses them to box things in whereas mike will uses them to open them up. like my favorite trick of his is where he'll bring the lowpass in on a pre-chorus and then open it up as the chorus comes in and it makes the chorus sound that much bigger.
― only built 4 cuban twinx... (The Reverend), Thursday, 14 March 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
hah okay i can see how this lowpass filter is a nice signature once you know what to listen for
― 乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 20:51 (eleven years ago) link
also i love it when people start dropping science and put names on production techniques etc., good stuff
― 乒乓, Thursday, 14 March 2013 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
yeah he basically uses it like a dance producer does, to create a big contrast between loud and softq
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
it's too bad for jeezy that he was way ahead of the mike will curve with "way too gone" cuz that song would be a way bigger hit now
― J0rdan S., Thursday, March 14, 2013 3:22 PM (6 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah that's still my favorite Mike Will track, at least on a production level. it actually jumped back on the charts for a second last summer, six months after it initially got some spins, right after "No Lie" blew up. "Bandz" started getting on the radio around the same time even though it'd been out forever at that point, so it really felt like after the 2 Chainz single got big it was like 'ok everyone re-release their Mike Will tracks.'
― Stephen Thomas Duttywine (some dude), Wednesday, 20 March 2013 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
love 'way too gone' so much, still reminds me of twin peaks every time
― r|t|c, Wednesday, 20 March 2013 23:19 (eleven years ago) link
One of my favorite producers at the moment for sure. Trance-riffs are definitely key. Also taking up this sound in a really post-Lex Luther moment to my mind, so it still has those blinding ultra shiny Playstation synths.
Interview with Noz from last April - http://www.thefader.com/2012/04/30/beat-construction-mike-will-made-it/
― MikoMcha, Thursday, 21 March 2013 12:28 (eleven years ago) link
People don’t even know that I got fucking four on the floor music
would like to hear
― tpp, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:01 (eleven years ago) link
He put Gucci on the phone and Gucci was like “We gotta get in the studio, woo woo.”
― r|t|c, Thursday, 21 March 2013 14:24 (eleven years ago) link
So I was like “we can do this kind of shit in our sleep, this street shit. I’m about to test you real quick.” I played the “Turn On The Lights” beat and out of nowhere he was like [sings] “Turn On The Lights!” We knocked that joint out.
i love this
― 乒乓, Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:23 (eleven years ago) link
love that beat construction column
― just sayin, Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
― r|t|c, Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:24 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
'woo woo' is what ppl say instead of 'etc. etc.'
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:30 (eleven years ago) link
so mike will is saying 'we gotta get in the studio etc etc'
thanks for clarifying that
― k3vin k., Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:35 (eleven years ago) link
So I was like “we can do this kind of shit in our sleep, this street shit. I’m about to test you real quick.” I played the “Turn On The Lights” beat and out of nowhere he was like (sings) “Turn On The Lights!” We knocked that joint out.
― 乒乓, Thursday, March 21, 2013 8:23 AM (9 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I wish rappers/producers would film more studio sessions. They could go back after the fact and show the initial reactions to classic joints.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
xp preferred it how it read in joyful innocence tbh :(
― r|t|c, Thursday, 21 March 2013 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
He put Gucci on the phone and Gucci was like “We gotta get in the studio, woo woo.”― r|t|c, Thursday, March 21, 2013 9:24 AM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink'woo woo' is what ppl say instead of 'etc. etc.'
manesplainin'
― 乒乓, Friday, 22 March 2013 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― k3vin k., Friday, 22 March 2013 00:29 (eleven years ago) link
hahaha
― Stephen Thomas Duttywine (some dude), Friday, 22 March 2013 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
thats mike willsplainin actually
(sorry for being a killjoy i saw someone make that joke on twitter awhile back)
― rap steve gadd (D-40), Friday, 22 March 2013 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
woke up w/ 'pour it up' in my head, soundtracking my dreams, wth
― 乒乓, Saturday, 30 March 2013 16:14 (eleven years ago) link
ugh that song sucks
― k3vin k., Saturday, 30 March 2013 16:16 (eleven years ago) link
weird that the youtube version seems to have been pitch shifted up even though it's from rihannaVEVO
― 乒乓, Saturday, 30 March 2013 16:20 (eleven years ago) link
i had a good run the last month or so of avoiding "Pour It Up" enough that it wouldn't get stuck in my head, had a relapse the other day ugh
― rocker, edgy, tight, bad boy, hip, stylish, flamboyant, unafraid (some dude), Saturday, 30 March 2013 16:41 (eleven years ago) link
that song is so good
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 30 March 2013 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
i will not say i think it's bad per se but i am unable to enjoy it
― rocker, edgy, tight, bad boy, hip, stylish, flamboyant, unafraid (some dude), Saturday, 30 March 2013 17:11 (eleven years ago) link
bad experience with pouring it up?
― A$AP Rovi (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 30 March 2013 17:23 (eleven years ago) link
certain Rihanna songs like "Run This Town" just have these endless woah oh sections that circle around in my head and put me in this miserable desolate headspace where i want to crawl into a hole and die
― rocker, edgy, tight, bad boy, hip, stylish, flamboyant, unafraid (some dude), Saturday, 30 March 2013 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
"We Still In This Bitch" is definitely the only Mike Will hit that's outright bad, though. even the beat sounds unfinished, like he just laid down a foundation and did nothing with it.
― rocker, edgy, tight, bad boy, hip, stylish, flamboyant, unafraid (some dude), Saturday, 30 March 2013 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
I'd be 100% down with pour it up if the whoa oh parts were excised
― 乒乓, Saturday, 30 March 2013 17:38 (eleven years ago) link
maybe fonkytiemz can do a 'refix' without those parts
― rocker, edgy, tight, bad boy, hip, stylish, flamboyant, unafraid (some dude), Saturday, 30 March 2013 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
Yes.
― longneck, Saturday, 30 March 2013 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
As in yes, that song is so good.
― longneck, Saturday, 30 March 2013 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
i might like "Pour It Up" more if it wasn't competing for airplay with "Loveeeeeee Song"
― rocker, edgy, tight, bad boy, hip, stylish, flamboyant, unafraid (some dude), Saturday, 30 March 2013 18:23 (eleven years ago) link
"Pour It Up" is a full banger
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Saturday, 30 March 2013 19:44 (eleven years ago) link
http://soundcloud.com/jay-r-neutron/poured-up
― cunnilingus ah um (The Reverend), Saturday, 30 March 2013 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
"pour it up" is amazing because it's kinda resolutely bleak and unbanging
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 1 April 2013 10:28 (eleven years ago) link
it's rihanna's #phuckyofeelings swag shtick taken to a very extreme and unexpected logical conclusion
if her vocal delivery was even slightly more present or party-friendly it'd be very boring
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 1 April 2013 10:29 (eleven years ago) link
like, she sounds completely stone cold sober and paranoid - not druggy paranoid, actual rational and thought-through paranoid - on it
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 1 April 2013 10:30 (eleven years ago) link
also, constantly intoning "i still got my (more?) money" as if she's absolutely fixated on not spending it, not letting a single penny out of her pockets, regardless of all the expensive things happening around her
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 1 April 2013 10:31 (eleven years ago) link
I like the idea that she's worried that one of these days the strip club or the car dealership or whatever will only take cash.
― Tim F, Monday, 1 April 2013 12:00 (eleven years ago) link
i think lex makes a good point but am just going to point out that that entire defense is the "looking at the club through smoke" aesthetic that you hate
― J0rdan S., Monday, 1 April 2013 13:05 (eleven years ago) link
my argument was that it's one of the only songs in this vein where the singer sounds sober not druggy?
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 1 April 2013 13:09 (eleven years ago) link
it's better executed than whatever songs you're thinking of, anyway
― flamenco drop (lex pretend), Monday, 1 April 2013 13:10 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think it's quite the looking at the party through smoke aesthetic, although there are surface similarities. the weeknd sings from a position of vulnerability that he overcompensates for, lex is correct in that rihanna is just stone cold swag and dgaf.
― 乒乓, Monday, 1 April 2013 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
theres sick production on this but not sure any of the songs are great, some good verses def tho
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 16 December 2014 02:59 (nine years ago) link
nothing is promised is a jam
― johnny crunch, Thursday, 9 June 2016 12:03 (seven years ago) link
all the Future ad libs just make me wonder if it would've sounded better as a Future song, it seems more suited to his voice than Rihanna's
― Dierks Bentley's Holistic Detective Agency (some dude), Thursday, 9 June 2016 12:11 (seven years ago) link
Yeah he wrote it and it really just sounds like a future song w rihanna's vocals.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Thursday, 9 June 2016 12:14 (seven years ago) link
http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/11/how-mike-will-made-it
― johnny crunch, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 14:57 (seven years ago) link
I did not know Swae Lee wrote "Formation"
― Evan R, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 15:38 (seven years ago) link
pretty weird timing for a mike will super producer trend story...
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 15:43 (seven years ago) link
The author seems a little out of touch. A lot of the piece reads like it could have been filed in 2013, just after Bangerz came out.
The angle to me feels like it could have been Will's commercial resiliency. Wasn't all that long ago ppl were suggesting Will had been rendered passe by DJ Mustard, but now it's pretty obvious which producer had the longer shelf life.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 15:56 (seven years ago) link
Also odd that the piece was written for readers who have absolutely no knowledge of rap music about a subject that only readers deeply interested in rap music would ever care about
― Evan R, Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:08 (seven years ago) link
but he hasn't really shown much commercial resiliency, "formation" aside... rae sremm album got pushed back after the single flopped. mustard prob has the bigger hit ("needed me") this year.
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:14 (seven years ago) link
Still, Mike Will is just about the only ATL producer atm who seems to bring the best out of whoever it is he's working with.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 16:47 (seven years ago) link
what does that even mean
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 18:39 (seven years ago) link
It means that whenever Future or Thug collaborate w MWMI they sound inspired, that all the new Rae Sremms have been great + MFN Right is a banger. The Rihanna song would have been better as a Future song but it's still good, and no, he isn't really charting atm but the spark's still there.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 20:09 (seven years ago) link
It means that whenever Future or Thug collaborate w MWMI they sound inspired
examples?
rae sremmurd have only ever worked w/ him so i don't see how they count
― J0rdan S., Tuesday, 5 July 2016 20:11 (seven years ago) link
Rae Sremmurd count because they seem to be developing healthily whereas Future and Thug are sort of threading water atm. He brings out a poppier sound in them whenever they work together and I need more of that.
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 20:46 (seven years ago) link
* them = future & thug
― human and working on getting beer (longneck), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 20:47 (seven years ago) link
and the best new gucci is over a mw beat
― ANU (sisilafami), Tuesday, 5 July 2016 23:03 (seven years ago) link