1970-1979 WTF - The Hard 'n' Heavy 'n' Loud + Krautrock, Arty, Noisy, Weird, Funky, Punky Shit - Albums Poll! - VOTING THREAD! Closes Mar 8th 11.59 PM UK Time - All ILXORS/LURKERS WELCOME

My perception of this - and remember I wasn't born when punk hit & don't really care about it - is that punk writers weren't against chops per se but a perceived elevation of chops above other elements they held to be more inportant. Like they all still loved soul & stuff, right? And there was acceptable prog (from Germany). So the "chops = bad" orthodoxy was a necessary (to them) corrective for bands who were *only* about that (i guess they would argue that even jazz has other priorities than skill, viz emotional connection, politics, &c - and they would have made a qualitative distinction too, that jazz was just *better* than prog). Idk. I like some prog and a lot if chopsy music but I think the punk rhetoric in the uk wasn't a bad thing.

*of, obv. Phone/pub innit.

One thing I disliked about metal for instance in the 80s were peoples insistence that "you must like them so and so is an amazing guitarist and the stuff you like dude cant even play" so i totally get that point. (it still existed every single ocean colour scene fan said the same fucking thing, same for pink floyd "dave gilmour is amazing how can you not like it")

But it really did become more than that. But like mark s and rockism on ilm ended up far away from what he meant.

2 days to go

PLEASE READ ALL OF THE BELOW BEFORE VOTING

You can vote for a minimum of 20 and maximum of 100 albums, But you CANNOT VOTE FOR MORE THAN 3 ALBUMS BY THE ONE BAND UNLESS YOU FILL OUT A FULL BALLOT OF 100 THEN THERE IS NO LIMITS

You can choose to submit a weighted, unweighted or split ballot. Points will be assigned as follows: Weighted: 1st choice (top of the ballot) 260 points, then 245, 235, 225, 220, 215, 210, 205, 200, 195, 190, 188, 186, 184 and so on down to 2 points for 100th place. Unweighted: Every choice gets 113 points. Split: The top portion is treated as a weighted ballot and the remaining potential points total is divided equally among the bottom portion.

But It would be good if those who don't want to rank a full ballot would still rank the top 10 or 20 then do a split unranked ballot rather than pure unweighted.
It's entirely up to you but It's helpful for avoiding ties and the top albums deserves the points. So please try and rank part of your ballot. You know it looks better when albums have a #1.

Some may want to just vote for the heaviest or 'rockingest' tracks. They may wish to vote in the style of the 80s poll. Or you may just simply want to vote for your favourite albums in the list. It's entirely up to you. Just vote please!

Please make sure you copy and paste your selections directly from the following spreadsheet: ALBUMS: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AumbddEHET5xdEZaQ0paMUZpNEdGeUdRSGRTY3BfV2c

Here is the voting form
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEN3MGdQQkdWWUtsM19SYlZ0UTdzQkE6MQ

There is also a Spotify Albums Playlist please subscribe to it. Not everything is on Spotify though.

Voting Closes MARCH 8th 11.59 PM UK Time

Ra'anan, the author of the Demons, Fairies & Wailing Guitars book said he will try to submit a ballot if work/time allows. I was up late last night reading it and scrambling for albums.

I've been enjoying these so far, and have been nominated:

Armageddon - Armageddon (1970)
Modulo 1000 - Não Fale Com Paredes (1970)
Black Merda - Black Merda (1970)
Josefus - s/t (1970) - I prefer Dead Man, which wasn't nominated

These were not nominated. Love the album art for this:
Garybaldi - Nuda (1972)

http://fastnbulbous.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/garybaldi-nuda-front.jpg
http://fastnbulbous.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/garybaldi-nuda-back.jpg

Socrates Drank The Conium - On The Wings (1973)
Nektar - A Tab In The Ocean (1972) - I had the first one, Journey To The Center of the Eye for years, and kept forgetting to track down the others.
Cargo - Cargo (1972)
Los Dug Dug's - Smog (1972)
Stonehouse - Stonehouse Creek (1971)

Still have to hear My Solid Ground, Incredible Hog, The Bachs and others.

OK, I'm confused. On the voting form it says this: "ALBUMS: You may not vote for more than three albums by a single artist. Any additional votes will be ignored." No mention is made of whether this changes depending on the size of your ballot. However, I thought AG said that if you submit a full ballot, you can vote for as many albums as you want. Can you clarify, AG?

(because I've got five Led Zeppelin albums in my top 40.)

I very much dig Nektar - A Tab In The Ocean and Los Dug Dugs - Smog - but sadly neither rounded out my top 100. Kinda wish I had room for 'em though. Same for the Spirit record (but I like other records of theirs better, so maybe that's why it didn't rate).

I probably could have ranked another 50 to 70, 'cause dang, how do ya fit Awesome records you love (wish I had room for Atomic Rooster's 'In Hearing of..', too) when the 'white hard rock canon' records were also so prominent in the list, too (Zep, CCR, Who, Sabs, AC/DC, Stones, etc.).

Wondering why these albums were excluded:

Ornette Coleman - Dancing in Your Head
Miles Davis - On the Corner
Patti Smith Group - Easter (not as hard as the first two?)

It probably came up before so remind me.

sund4r - I havent heard from seandalai in over 3 weeks so he simply hasn't changedwhat it says on the voting form. So dont worry.
As for albums being excluded - I dunno - Don't recall them being nominated.

'white hard rock canon'

noooooooooooooooo dont give them ammunition!

lol I am doing last minute listening to the Death record, eat that poll whitewashers!!!!

http://youtu.be/rufDCjZd6-Q

that death record is good.

wait a minute just spotted this

Ra'anan, the author of the Demons, Fairies & Wailing Guitars book said he will try to submit a ballot if work/time allows.

had no idea he was an ilxor!

I have no idea what book that is but w/e

w/r/t Death it is good though I think I like Black Dots a little more and I always forget that that was nominated

oh nm its the book linked to upthread, that sounds like a great read

mr money you leaving your ballot to the last min again?

Yes, expect it w/in the next 26 hours

lol

btw I dunno what I will do when XTC - White Music wins the poll.

As former plug.dj stalwart turrican would say c'moooown

I'm pretty sure I nominated Ornette and it was vetoed. Does seem puzzling, (re)listening to the other funk and fusion albums on the list. Ah well.

I cant remember

you would probably have been the only voter anyway ;)

plus don't you have enough problems cutting your list to 100?

done !

i never expected to know/love over 60 of the noms ..

told ya so!

that's why leaving it til friday late is a bit dodgy as ppl will rush a ballot in

Still working on these!
Tracks ballot may be done tonight but albums ballot is likely to take till tomorrow to finish.

have you listened to all the nominated albums you don't know? ;) I think fastnbulbous and sund4r were trying to!

nope .. not listened to anything i dont know.
life is too short and i have kids ...

hence my sub is all the usual mojo friendly suspects

was asking the others as I expected nothing less than you ;)

now, if ever there was a back handed compliment ...

have you listened to all the nominated albums you don't know? ;)
I've been trying to at least give a listen to all the ones that people went to the trouble of highlighting and doing blurbs for - think time is still going to defeat me though.

well I dont think people would like it very much if there was yet another extension..

I think mark e's ballot was the 70th btw

woo hoo ..

i feel honoured (or is that honored .. )

just a shame it was full of the usual suspects and nowt special ..

well I dont think people would like it very much if there was yet another extension..
Nah it's cool, I wouldn't ask you to do that! I will submit both ballots by Fri night one way or another, just want to squeeze a couple more new albums in first.
Speaking of which, self-title Ash Ra Tempel album is sounding pretty good right now.

It is an awesome album

btw has anyone seen the prog twins of mares nest and imago around? If there's no prog in the poll results remember to blame them!

into last 24 hours then..

and imago has voted

http://open.spotify.com/user/pfunkboy/playlist/1rFbtUwZlcYHBD6gcemMeK

Voted. Will do a tracks ballot tomorrow. I invested all my time into albums, though.

seandalai checked in btw. Saw an interim top 200. Exciting! (done before sund4rs ballot) but anyone still left to vote can change things EVEN AT THE TOP. So please as many of you vote as you can. top 20s 30s 100 whatever please vote!

finally voted. my ballot is kinda horseshit; I made it up to 90

my ballot is complete horseshit; i made it up while sober

haha thanks for voting everyone! Keep em coming!

Oh crap, I didn't clock what the date was until just now. I will *try* to sort my ballot but I'm out tonight so may not get it in.

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooo you must vote!