"The death of a disco dancer Well, it happens a lot 'round here And if you think Peace Is a common goal That goes to show How little you know
The death of a disco dancer Well, I'd rather not get involved I never talk to my neighbour I'd rather not get involved "
Prescient, yes?
― bidfurd, Sunday, 8 February 2009 20:45 (fifteen years ago) link
Just read this thread, really quite something, anyway there's a couple of question I would like to ask relating to the issues raised in this thread, there is talk of Morrissey and The Smith's "legacy". I was wondering how peoples view had changed taking into account his perhaps nostalgia based comeback and obviously Smiths / Moz indebted yet achingly conservative bands reclaiming the indie / NME world. There's a notion put forward here that provincial Britain as Moz understood no longer exists but these bands seem like a studied attempt to speak to / about provincial Britain in the way Moz did. Though The Libertines who I am thinking of her got derailed by their own myth pretty quickly without bring anything particularly interesting to the table. Whilst perhaps someone like The Streets does talk about provincial Britain in a way that doesn't reek of conservative nostalgia though of course it could be argued he is part of a very different tradition and a completely different vision of Britain. The lyrics of many You Are The Quarry songs suggest that Britain no longer exists for Morrissey as anything but memory and pastiche (Come Back To Camden, Irish Blood, English Heart)? But was it ever anything but that? This is reminding me of the thread on Bob Dylan if Dylan is the link between two eras is Morrissey a sort of link between two significantly different epochs of British cultural history, from mining to malls or something. From tin mines to Tescos? Corner shops to Co-Op?― elwisty (elwisty), Saturday, 19 February 2005 19:06 (3 years ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
^so glad this guy stopped posting
― Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Sunday, 8 February 2009 21:05 (fifteen years ago) link
elwisty a villa fan by any chance?
― Henry Frog (Frogman Henry), Sunday, 8 February 2009 21:06 (fifteen years ago) link
It's the other one, but I get them confused all the time as well tbh.
― Limoncello Carlin (The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics), Sunday, 8 February 2009 21:11 (fifteen years ago) link
the miracle of this thread. best ilm thread ever?
― alex in mainhattan, Sunday, 8 February 2009 21:41 (fifteen years ago) link
One of those great old threads where I look through it years later hoping, "Man, I hope I didn't say something really stupid during this terrific discussion." And I didn't say anything at all, thankfully.
― Mark, Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:04 (fifteen years ago) link
TBH I only recently started watching footage of early Smiths concerts. It is kind of incredible that this man was a pop star:
Not even like charmingly Michael Stipe-ish geekiness.
― Sundar, Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:09 (fifteen years ago) link
(Like, speaking as someone who's pretty awkward and unco-ordinated but harbours no ambitions to pop stardom.)
― Sundar, Sunday, 8 February 2009 22:13 (fifteen years ago) link
Just academic stardom.
― the pinefox, Monday, 9 February 2009 13:04 (fifteen years ago) link
This thread was also amazingly self-renewing -- it had Nabisco, Dr C and Carmody writing great screeds early on, but years later the marvellous Mary could still pop up and write an even bigger one.
― the pinefox, Monday, 9 February 2009 13:09 (fifteen years ago) link
I think elwisty got the return and ? keys on his computer confused.
― Ozman Bin Laden (Raw Patrick), Monday, 9 February 2009 13:15 (fifteen years ago) link
lol aspergers
― special guest stars mark bronson, Monday, 9 February 2009 13:33 (fifteen years ago) link
lol you're a dick
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Tuesday, 10 February 2009 00:11 (fifteen years ago) link
Heads up -- from the folks who brought you the New Order/Joy Division Recycle blog:
http://smithsrecycle.blogspot.com/
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 14:29 (thirteen years ago) link
:D
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:10 (thirteen years ago) link
Thanks, Ned.
― Un peu d'Eire, ça fait toujours Dublin (Michael White), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 15:46 (thirteen years ago) link
kewl
― peacocks, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 16:19 (thirteen years ago) link
Bookmarked!
― he's always been a bit of an anti-climb Max (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 18:14 (thirteen years ago) link
Stoked for this.
― more lunacy and witchcraft! (kkvgz), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 18:22 (thirteen years ago) link
Hope some fans pick up the idea and do this for The Cure too.
― brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 18:32 (thirteen years ago) link
I know it's in bad taste to go "OMG this thread is so good!!!"
But yeah, OMG this thread is so good!!!
― FRESH MEAT (MFB), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 19:44 (thirteen years ago) link
It is good! (today's stinking it up a bit, though)
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:03 (thirteen years ago) link
Aw.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:07 (thirteen years ago) link
it was my emoticon, wasn't it ... :(
― tylerw, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:08 (thirteen years ago) link
Still no Smiths action figures...
― Born too beguiled (DavidM), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:13 (thirteen years ago) link
Sorry Ned, now I feel bad.
― Ismael Klata, Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:21 (thirteen years ago) link
http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/imagebuzz/terminal01/2009/1/30/17/morrissey-almost-nude-23290-1233354574-13.jpgshit just got real
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:56 (thirteen years ago) link
actually wait a second, what is andy cairns from therapy and that guy from sum 41 doing in mozza's band?
― reallysmoothmusic (Jamie_ATP), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 20:57 (thirteen years ago) link
nooooooooooooo
― seger ros (crüt), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 21:00 (thirteen years ago) link
you know I looked at the name of that URL and still I thought it was going to be of action figures
― people are for loving (HI DERE), Tuesday, 10 August 2010 21:02 (thirteen years ago) link
As for "having a car with *'only'* a tape deck"... jeez. That's what I call living in the World's Only Remaining Superpower.
I still think of this post, often, when driving
― Teddybears.SHTML (sic), Wednesday, 11 August 2010 00:07 (thirteen years ago) link
in case you missed this:
Search and Destroy : New Order
― Bee OK, Friday, 27 August 2010 04:35 (thirteen years ago) link
umm, i missed it, but that is one of the most amazing album covers i've ever seen. please let that be real.
― a dystopian society awaits if we continue on this path. (contenderizer), Friday, 27 August 2010 04:39 (thirteen years ago) link
To re-revive:
http://smithsrecycle.blogspot.com/2010/10/updatey-ness.html
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 October 2010 14:49 (thirteen years ago) link
Don't like the sound of Wnr Br0$ shutting their blog down. Surely they'd have bigger fish to fry.. ah well let's hope so.
Meanwhile there's a brilliant How To Buy The Smiths article right at the back of MOJO December issue which just came out in the uk. It goes for Hatful.. as the best album, as voted for by writers and members of MOJO forum. I concur!
― piscesx, Saturday, 30 October 2010 10:45 (thirteen years ago) link
Heads up, folks. It's started:
http://smithsrecycle.blogspot.com/2010/10/etaatb-01-rt131-hand-in-glove.html
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 October 2010 12:32 (thirteen years ago) link
didn't really 'get' the smiths until recently - this will be a good way back in. cheers!
― dayo, Sunday, 31 October 2010 12:37 (thirteen years ago) link
i can see just from the first blog post that i'll be learning a few things here. and there was me fancying myself as some kind of Smiths expert! what was Brixton Ace i wonder? never heard of it before.
― piscesx, Sunday, 31 October 2010 19:27 (thirteen years ago) link
this is going to be fun, those cover scans are incredible.
― ILB's biggest fanboy for the SF Giants (Bee OK), Monday, 1 November 2010 01:33 (thirteen years ago) link
update!
― piscesx, Monday, 1 November 2010 02:44 (thirteen years ago) link
http://smithsrecycle.blogspot.com/2010/10/etaatb-02-rtt136a-reel-around-fountain.html
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 November 2010 02:46 (thirteen years ago) link
well i didn't think it possible to make the smiths interesting in 2010, but here we are
― Sniiiiip! (electricsound), Monday, 1 November 2010 02:53 (thirteen years ago) link
hand in glove was amazing, thanks for posting the updates about this...would have had no idea.
― skip, Monday, 1 November 2010 03:04 (thirteen years ago) link
shocked by how excited I am for this
― Mark, Monday, 1 November 2010 03:30 (thirteen years ago) link
had no idea about a planned RATF single. Jeane was always a brilliant song. one of the few lesser known B sides thanks to it's exclusion from the 80's era compilations.
― piscesx, Monday, 1 November 2010 04:02 (thirteen years ago) link
I like how dismissive the post is about morrissey
― dayo, Monday, 1 November 2010 04:03 (thirteen years ago) link
yeah I find it weird that someone could be a smiths fanboy w/o being a morrissey fanboy, at least on some level
― iatee, Monday, 1 November 2010 05:18 (thirteen years ago) link
Not really -- I've encountered enough people over time who are very explicitly all about Marr and the music above all else, and who really don't bother with Morrissey solo much. They're a smaller and much less visible group of Smiths fans than the expected norm, but they're there.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 November 2010 05:22 (thirteen years ago) link
well I can understanding not liking his solo career - I personally don't like much beyond the singles - but his persona and lyrics are such a major part of 'the miracle of the smiths'...
― iatee, Monday, 1 November 2010 05:27 (thirteen years ago) link
but yeah, people are weird
― iatee, Monday, 1 November 2010 05:28 (thirteen years ago) link