What are people's favourite dancehall rhythms of the year or so...

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cashmere is great, but i've only heard "nah lick". can we do a thing where we match up the riddim with the best mc?

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Sunday, 27 July 2003 20:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

What I was talking about before can be heard really clearly on Ms Thing's "Regular" (using Dave Kelly's Fiesta riddim - but not the R Kelly "Fiesta" riddim used on Elephant Man's "Jamaica"): the actual beat is just a a low, thumping triplet beat, and there's a bit of diwali-style syncopated clapping, but otherwise the whole groove is pushed forward by string riffs, whistles, flutes etc (it's a fucking great riddim). A lot of the really great riddims at the moment are, beatwise, simple triplets (see also R Kelly's "Snake" - there's a reason this has been ripped wholesale to become a hot riddim right now).

Dave Kelly's pretty good at this kind of ultra-melodic stuff actually, as his gorgeous production on Mis-Teeq's "That's Just Not Me" demonstrates.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 July 2003 12:27 (twenty-one years ago) link

Essential downloads:

1) Sizzla - Love & Affection (Wanted Riddim)
2) Vybz Kartel - Gi Mi Some (Mudslide Riddim)
3) Chico - Hail Di Gals Dem (Va Va Voom Riddim)
4) Capleton - Baghdad (Snake Riddim)
5) Beenie Man & Ms Thing - Dude (Fiesta Riddim)
6) Cobra - Lazy Girl (20 Cent Riddim)
7) Elephant Man - All Out (All Out Riddim)
8) Vybz Kartel - Sweet To The Belly (Egyptian Riddim)
9) Predator & Bounty Killer - Mad (Knockout Riddim)
10) TOK - Wap Dem (Famine Riddim)

The Wanted riddim is a must - a great "Get Busy"-style throb but a real skank feel to the drums (a bit like Wayne Wonder's "Bounce Along"). Sizzla's version is the killer for his whined chorus - "LUUUUUV AND AFFECTSHAAAAWN IS WHAT GIRLS WAAAAAANT!" The Elephant Man version is pretty great as well but I don't know what it's called. Something about fassies being enemies, but that doesn't really narrow it down.

The Va Va Voom riddim meanwhile is just insane - big horns, shimmering Arabic string flares, clattering breakdowns at the end of each measure and about three moments when the groove seems to devolve into a more primal Eastern groove before snapping back into extroverted action. I like Chico's R&B-ish version because she really has to belt it to match the background.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

sweet to the belly is prob my fave dancehall record of the past few months! the liquid rhythm was a beaut too - gimme anything 21st-century w/ a harpsichord motif in it and i'm a happy bunny - plus it's got cecile and sean paul's "can u do di wuk" on it, so is an all-round belter...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

There's something about the combination of the female murmur "hmm mmm mmmmmm" and then Vybz's chorus in "Sweet To The Belly" that lifts it above all other versions of Egyptian that I've heard (none of which have the female sample).

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:41 (twenty-one years ago) link

nah, that's what makes it - it's quite a sexy record, but it's funny, too.... partic the bit abt women not wanting men like r kelly - this reminds me a bit of an old track called mavis by merciless, which is pretty funny, too...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 28 July 2003 13:44 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh my GOD Dave have you heard the REBIRTH RIDDIM??!?!?

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 July 2003 14:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Rebirth Riddim is poptastic!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 28 July 2003 15:02 (twenty-one years ago) link

all i know is that i am now downloading something called the...wait for it...R2D2 RIDDIM

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 15:06 (twenty-one years ago) link

There should be a separate thread for Most Mouthwatering Things You Get When You Type 'Riddim' Into Soulseek Search. My encounter with the "Eye of Tiger Riddim" was a truly blissful file-sharing moment.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 28 July 2003 15:09 (twenty-one years ago) link

for a second i thought the rebirth riddim was like jammer or target or someone. the wayne marshall version is ridiculously sugary and pink and plastic. the SOPRANOS RIDDIM is my favourite right now. i love the names, it's like collecting pokemon cards

― sean g, Monday, 28 July 2003 15:12 (twenty-one years ago) link

can there be a single more pleasurable internet related act (non-sexual division) than typing in "[blank year] riddim" into a search engine?

ha i am also now getting the JEDI RIDDIM

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

BUSH AND SADDAM RIDDIM

(d/l speed 0.8 alas)

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 28 July 2003 15:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

SADDAM BIRTHDAY PARTY RIDDIM !!!

― sean g, Monday, 28 July 2003 15:15 (twenty-one years ago) link

wonderful

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 15:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh for a mac version of Soulseek. Using Limewire is like pulling teeth I swear.

It's sort of exhausting trying to compress a month's worth of dancehall education into a single night at my parents' computer, but oh so worth it.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 July 2003 15:22 (twenty-one years ago) link

i have heard the rebirth rhythm - it's spesh and then some! oh i love dancehall and it's nice to see other people feeling same this is really making me smile and it's a monday, i have no girlfriend and i am broke so that's really saying something! you've genuinely all brightened up my day - just wish i had a faster internet connection for my mac...

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 28 July 2003 15:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

wow i just got a version of the jedi riddim by TOK where they emulate em's flow from 'business'!

this makes me very happy http://www3.audiomaxxx.com/AudioFiles5/RiddimCD19.ram

― sean g, Monday, 28 July 2003 15:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

three words for you all: panty. raid. riddim.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 15:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh for a mac version of Soulseek. Using Limewire is like pulling teeth I swear.

Tim, are you on OS X? I'm using the cantankerous but totally usable pyslsk. If you've got a couple of hours and don't mind getting your hands dirty you can most certainly get this working. Drop me a line for a "how I got the bloody thing installed" or search on ILE for the Boring Computer Questions thread, there is a good step-by-step written by (I think) Ed.

― fields of salmon (fieldsofsalmon), Monday, 28 July 2003 16:08 (twenty-one years ago) link

jess: jamaica really has taken the indian thing to strange new levels
mitch: i want to see bollywood star wars
mitch: starring bounty killah
jess: haha
jess: elephant man as han solo
jess: lady saw as princess leia
jess: beenie man as luke
jess: madd anju as r2d2
mitch: hahaha
mitch: elephant man would SO be han solo
mitch: shit, that is good casting
mitch: this needs to go on a thread

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 28 July 2003 17:28 (twenty-one years ago) link

iswipe works purty good except for the crashes.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 28 July 2003 18:55 (twenty-one years ago) link

My last d/l was the Water Lilly riddim which I hoped would be a slick slice of lovers' dancehall to finish a comp CD - and it was! Those aren't just funny names y'know.

Now I'm listening to Finnish fiddle music though, which would be 1000 times greater if it was called the Snork Maiden Riddim or something. But it's not.

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 28 July 2003 20:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

harry toddler's "doom" (which is coming up in slsk as both hard drive and famine riddim) is u & fucking k: ultra-trebbly "guitar" runs and awesome staggering stereopanned drums.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Monday, 28 July 2003 21:00 (twenty-one years ago) link

That sounds like the famine riddim - it's a pearler. I've been looking for more Harry Toddler ever since hearing "Donkey Kick".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 28 July 2003 22:21 (twenty-one years ago) link

Famine is marvelous. For further proof, check out "Element of Surprise" by Alozade so we can all talk about how great he is.

― JS Williams (js williams), Monday, 28 July 2003 22:39 (twenty-one years ago) link

alozade has a great voice - kinda adenoidal and weird, plus funny - but he takes slackness to altogether new levels so i find it difficult to play his stuff... i mean, fuck vibes, that's not a great track!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Monday, 28 July 2003 22:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

anyone heard the Saian Supa Crew track on the R2D2 riddim (it's called "S.A.I.A.N")? french dancehall toasting!

― etc, Monday, 28 July 2003 23:49 (twenty-one years ago) link

Tim, check Harry Toddler's version of 'Pass The Courvoisier' on the QUAKE RDDIM. It starts with what i'm sure is the Ghostbusters theme. Should be on slsk.

― sean g, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 13:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

Some more riddims worth checking:
PUPPY WATER RIDDIM. Bollywood strings and a squelchy processed snare that sounds a little like the noise on 'Ice Rink'.
HUM HUM RIDDIM. This is crazy. No bass, just syncopated humming noises used similarly to the stuttering voice samples Mannie Fresh used to record. There's lots of weird glitchy snare hits and scratching!
SARS RIDDIM. Lush lovers rock, particularly Wayne Wonder's version 'You Make My Life Complete'. Typical stylized bhangra beat with a chunky timbale hit that clicks and clacks beneath a beautiful, twinkly synth line.
SOPRANOS RIDDIM. I mentioned this upthread, but it deserves some more attention. It's like a pseudo-bhangra riddim, it has a similar beat pattern to the indian riddims but doesn't use any of the drum sounds or claps, just a huge distorted kick drum that goes BOOOOOOM-boom! The melody is carried by a really nice soft flute. Don't know what it's got to do with the Sopranos, are the names supposed to be descriptive of the riddim?

― sean g, Tuesday, 29 July 2003 14:07 (twenty-one years ago) link

(just to cover the only other thread about dancehall today...)
sean--you're OTM about the sopranos riddim. niceness.

― cybele (cybele), Tuesday, 29 July 2003 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link

The Forensic riddim is pretty simple but devastating - see Sean Paul's "Check It Deeply".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Thursday, 31 July 2003 05:31 (twenty-one years ago) link

cashmere = kashmir?

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Thursday, 31 July 2003 12:14 (twenty-one years ago) link

"What's the name of the riddim Richard "Shams" Browne produces for the last track on Higher Level and on Sean Paul's "Samfy I"? It's an absolute cracker."

Just found out that this is the Glue Riddim - still a total fave.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 1 August 2003 01:20 (twenty-one years ago) link

three weeks pass...

the coolie dance riddim album is going to be irresistable if it comes out!

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:25 (twenty-one years ago) link

Coming out the 26th.

― JS Williams (js williams), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:48 (twenty-one years ago) link

http://www.greensleeves.net/bio/biogcooliedance.html

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Saturday, 23 August 2003 22:54 (twenty-one years ago) link

Is it just me or has Greensleeves gone into hyperdrive with their rhythm albums? This is, like, weeks after Good 2 Go.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Sunday, 24 August 2003 04:24 (twenty-one years ago) link

Hey I don't suppose anyone has a tracklist for Chinese Assassin's 'Time to Kill'? It's a 74 minute dancehall mix that starts with Clappas. It's got the riddims from Elephant Man's 'No Hail Mi' and 'Give Her It Good', and it's got No Letting Go, Sean Paul & Busta, Jenny from the Block!, a great bootleg of Danny English & Eggnog's 'Party Time' (from the Diwali LP) on the Work It beat, the beat from Clipse's When the Last Time, Sean Paul's International Affair.

One of the best riddims has this riff on a plucked string instrument like in Roll Deep Regular and pingpong sounds like in Wiley's Shanghai, but it's too joyous to sound like grime. The first version is sung: "la la lala la/ give me a beat make the Marshal flow/ we sing the sounds to make the whole world know/ dancehall music coming through the door/ here we go-oh here we go/ I love the vibe that the music give/ dancehall music's so positive..."

Anyone know it?

― Keith McD (Keith McD), Monday, 25 August 2003 11:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

hm talking of spurious garidge conaprisons mudslide riddim uses the same 'okay' bit as dizzee's vexed!

― Chip Morningstar (bob), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 09:19 (twenty-one years ago) link

the ward 21 album has loads of low-frequency ,blowing-in-the-top-of-bottles noises (great description there, stelfox... no wonder you aint writing anywhere right now) that feature really heavily in a lot of grime, too

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Tuesday, 2 September 2003 09:45 (twenty-one years ago) link

Aahhh I'm glad someone else has discovered mudslide!

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Wednesday, 3 September 2003 00:11 (twenty-one years ago) link

one month passes...

OH MY GOD SALSA RIDDIM!!!!!

Like 20 Cent meets Rebirth meets Sign meets oh I dunno *everything*. I'm in the first flush of enthusiasm admittedly but right now this sounds like the best thing ever.

Search: Shaggy's "Your Eyes", TOK's "We Won't Stop", Ward 21's "Sick Head", Chico's "Exchange"... or just listen to Robbo Ranx's thursday show at 1xtra alternatively.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 6 October 2003 07:58 (twenty-one years ago) link

love the chico one. love chico. totally feeling chico's androgyny!

also check kiprich's killer flow on 'my best day'

also *cough* alozade and g-money 'dem no wise' *cough* shockwave riddim

"really useful post, this"

― prima fassy (bob), Monday, 6 October 2003 08:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

i am sad that there doesn't seem to be anything even nearly as good as "like glue" on the buy out riddim.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 6 October 2003 09:36 (twenty-one years ago) link

at the end of the day "buy out" isn't actually that great, it just works really really well w/ sean paul.

Odd how Sean Paul has done the best versions of a number of riddims - glue, rebirth, coolie dance, diwali arguably. Anyone who thinks he's a watered down product is totally kidding themselves.

And there's not enough talk about how amazing he is on "baby boy".

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 6 October 2003 09:52 (twenty-one years ago) link

yeah, i'm completely addicted to samfy i too.

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 6 October 2003 10:57 (twenty-one years ago) link

Right now if I had to do a favourite dancehall tracks of 2003 list it would look like this:

Beenie Man & Ms Thing - Dude
Sean Paul - Samfy I
Mad Cobra - Lazy Gyal
Chico - Exchange
Sizzla - These R Da Dayz
Sean Paul - Get Busy
Sean Paul - Close To Me
Vybz Kartel - Sweet to da Belly
Elephant Man - Blase
Sizzla - Love & Affection
Vybz Kartel - Gi Mi Some
Wayne Wonder - No Letting Go
Baby Cham - Wha Dat Fah
Kiprich & Preditor - Head Na Good
Sean Paul - Feel Alright
Elephant Man - All Out
Wayne Wonder - Bounce
Chico - Hail Di Gals Dem

Actually I'm gonna be DJing dancehall on Friday night, but I don't have all of these on mp3 so I'll only be able to play half these tracks.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 6 October 2003 11:23 (twenty-one years ago) link

wherefore 'fuck u sign'?

― mitch lastnamewithheld (mitchlnw), Monday, 6 October 2003 11:43 (twenty-one years ago) link

Oh shit I forgot that one!

Anyway, I gotta add Spragga Benz's "Move" and Vybz Kartel's "Bandwagonist".

Seriously though every time I listen to 1xtra I fall in love with a dozen new tracks. I can't believe the entire world isn't just going crazy over this inconceivable dancehall golden age we are living in.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Monday, 6 October 2003 11:50 (twenty-one years ago) link

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Picked up some nice stuff today

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 14 May 2004 22:00 (twenty years ago) link

Passa Passa rhythm! sort of ragga-metal

Not sure if this is an old one or new. Also there seems to be some controversy about the right to use this particular name.

― Jeff W (zebedee), Monday, 17 May 2004 11:47 (twenty years ago) link

i can't stop listening to "send on".

― m. (mitchlnw), Monday, 17 May 2004 12:06 (twenty years ago) link

People should take me up on that Maybach tip - it's great! - but instead of downloading Vybz's "Remedy" first grab TOK's "Sex on my Mind", which deserves to be a huge R&B crossover hit. Sparse riddims like this are *so much better* for pop tunes than eg. the latest slice of Vendetta kraziness.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Saturday, 22 May 2004 02:36 (twenty years ago) link

you're right - it's a bloody CHARLESTON! makes me think of flappers!

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 22 May 2004 12:06 (twenty years ago) link

anyone reckon we should start a new one of these threads as this one's getting stupid big now and even taking a while to load up on broadband?

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 22 May 2004 16:34 (twenty years ago) link

Go for it. I'll lock this one and redirect it once you've started a new one.

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 16:38 (twenty years ago) link

Job done, can you put a link back to this one from the new one, too, Ned? Coz there's some good info on here, still.

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 22 May 2004 16:46 (twenty years ago) link

― Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Saturday, 22 May 2004 21:24 (twenty years ago) link

I shall, hold on...

*new thread here*

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 22 May 2004 21:26 (twenty years ago) link

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