Nah, I'm looking forward to tomorrow's remix/working the Christmas thing and the Beatles track.
Woouldn't have had the time to do that one as well
― Mark G, Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:18 (eleven years ago) link
agree with soderberg that Lulu's better but I loved Lulu so that really isn't as damning as it should be. love Tilt but this one isn't clicking with me like it should
― one bish two bish red bish blue bish (fadanuf4erybody), Saturday, 8 December 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
ixiiivixvvi is a total hook. best track on the album (for now). not sure if i like it as much as the drift, but... enjoying hearing it again and again, that's for sure.
― mr.raffles, Sunday, 9 December 2012 03:15 (eleven years ago) link
Scott appears on this episode of J cocker's show, which expires in 2 hours:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01p3lgz
― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 9 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link
interview starts at about 46 minutes in.
― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Sunday, 9 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link
this album isn't very enjoyable to listen to. i like the horns on epizootics! and other little moments like that. it's certainly no Lulu, which I liked as well.
― Pat Finn, Sunday, 9 December 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link
I've managed three tracks so far. The opening track is pretty strong, in a bludgeony way, Corps De Blah has several beautiful 30sec chunks which don't add up to much and Phrasing has stuck in my head as the best of the three. I don't know when I'll get around to the 21min track.
I'm sure a large part of why Tilt was a big deal to me and I kind of ignored The Drift were my very different domestic circumstances, 11 years apart. At 27, I was single, living alone, no neighbours to speak of, nice stereo, lots of free time; at 38 I was married with kids, no time, long work hours. My principal memory of The Drift is being stunned by the Donald Duck Moment on the top deck of a number 3 bus in Dulwich. And then I probably didn't listen to it again for six months. I've gone back to it recently - "Jesse" still marvellous. But this issue of barely having the time and space to give these records the room they (maybe) deserve is present again with Bish Bosch.
― Michael Jones, Sunday, 9 December 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
the cobwebby cum spray font works
― reggie (qualmsley), Sunday, 9 December 2012 21:55 (eleven years ago) link
i can empathise with Michael Jones. I heald off buying the Drift on vinyl because I thought, shit, am I really going to want to play this out loud, but I currently live at home and I'm loving the aura of vinyl playback lately so I'm looking forward to hearing BB on a turntable in my room.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:39 (eleven years ago) link
Currently collecting the more substantial interviews (Guardian, Pfork, Quietus) into a single PDF cause I'm a fuckin' dork like that...― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:17 (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Friday, 7 December 2012 19:17 (3 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
I'd love a copy of this if you wouldn't mind?
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Monday, 10 December 2012 10:40 (eleven years ago) link
Album is straight in at number 95
― Mark G, Monday, 10 December 2012 10:46 (eleven years ago) link
The Mighty Bosch
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Monday, 10 December 2012 12:23 (eleven years ago) link
"My Gran used to love him in the 60s, so she'll love getting this for Xmas"
― Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Monday, 10 December 2012 12:25 (eleven years ago) link
Actually my mum used to like him but I won't be getting her this
― Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Monday, 10 December 2012 12:26 (eleven years ago) link
god jesus, there are gonna be a few heart attacks over the festive season. i actually fear...
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Monday, 10 December 2012 12:31 (eleven years ago) link
Okay, so the last 2/3rds of this album is pretty engaging, but those first two tracks are the ones that really scan as Walker self-parody to me. Shave those two off and this is quite a bit better.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 10 December 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link
dog latin, i will send when i get a chance. It's not slick, I just c & p'd the text from each one.
― Tomb Of Spatula (Jon Lewis), Monday, 10 December 2012 15:59 (eleven years ago) link
no that's cool - thansk man, would be nice to read em all in one place once i have the album.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Monday, 10 December 2012 16:12 (eleven years ago) link
this album is a gas
― flopson, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:24 (eleven years ago) link
i never know what to DO to scott walker albums but even if i never wanted to listen to them i "enjoyed" the sensation of totally forbidding, serious awe that tilt and the drift elicited. this one just had me pursing my lips at the fart noises. if you're gonna be unlistenable at least be completely 100% humourless ffs
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 10 December 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
i like the humour
― flopson, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:51 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah. For some reason I've been reaching for this a lot more than I did when I first got The Drift.
― Gukbe, Monday, 10 December 2012 19:55 (eleven years ago) link
loved this at first listen, don't really want to listen to anything else. good accompaniment for all holiday activities.
― CGI fridays (Edward III), Monday, 10 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
streaming on spotify btw
― CGI fridays (Edward III), Monday, 10 December 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
i haven't fallen this hard for one of his albums since i first heard Scott 2
― reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 11 December 2012 00:27 (eleven years ago) link
Finding it impossible to listen to this when the sun is out.
― kwhitehead, Wednesday, 12 December 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link
album of the year
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 14 December 2012 00:50 (eleven years ago) link
this one has the upper hand on The Drift for its earthy humour and bigger dynamic and rhythmic shifts. Tilt remains my favourite masterpiece because it has enough of the orchestral, balladeering, crooning Scott - it's a mixture of the two approches, really. The Drift pretty much dispensed with that trait of his, which returns in select points on the latest.
album of the year for me, too.
― Max Florian, Friday, 14 December 2012 01:29 (eleven years ago) link
I haven't listened to this yet! This is the first SW album where I can afford to promptly go out and buy vinyl and debut it thataway so I'm holding off until the right listening opportunity presents itself
― men, ugh (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 14 December 2012 05:39 (eleven years ago) link
Annnnnnd...my interview is live:
http://www.spin.com/articles/scott-walker-bish-bosch-interview-MP3s
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 14 December 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link
Way to go, the Nedster. He's plugging the arse of this album, old Scott.
― Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
nice one, yeah i'm surprised at how much press he's doing
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link
Oooh yay gonna read it right now!
― the clown's reflection is incorrect (Jon Lewis), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
Looking forward to that appearance on the One Show (xp)
― Tom D is secretly an important person (Tom D.), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link
hah, i'd actually LOVE to see that. The interview in this video (skip past the shoddy music video recording) is pure buttclench LOLs:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?gl=GB&hl=en-GB&v=3e8vpoj0lDs
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link
great interview ned. if i could ask him one question, i'd wonder what's with all the greek references. el greco, drachmas, athens, bears/romans, etc
― reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
You must always, if possible, allow enough stand-back room so that you remember the initial pleasures you had when it was all coming to you in its embryonic stages. If you're not careful, the many things that are happening around you in the studio can kill those gifts.
This is so true and so difficult IME.
― the clown's reflection is incorrect (Jon Lewis), Friday, 14 December 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link
(about many kinds of creation)
one of the best interviews with him I've read anywhere. bravo Ned. much better than the Toop one! your questions are especially incredibly interesting, no wonder he comes across as very much interested in answering them.
on an unrelated note, uncanny how much young Walker resembles young Julian Cope (his ardent fan and proselytizer at that time). it's something that recurs on and on in pop genealogy when you think about it, making somewhat of a point of "becoming what you eat" or something.
in '80s Yugoslavia, where I grew up, there was this hugely popular Croatian cover of 'The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore' (you'll spot 'Ashes to Ashes' Bowie all over it):
http://youtu.be/-OkmaK7uJDw
― Max Florian, Saturday, 15 December 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
Wonderful interview, Ned. Love this:
I'm always surprised when people make comments like, "What happened to melody in your work?" I hear an abundance of melody in it, and even better melody than I wrote before.
― Tarfumes The Escape Goat, Saturday, 15 December 2012 00:36 (eleven years ago) link
I always find that, if you swapped Walker for latter-day Sylvian and put him into his chair, the interviews would work pretty much the same as they are.I wonder what the two of them think about each other's work right now. I expected Toop (a known Sylvian fan) to raise the name with Scott at any moment, but he never did.
― Max Florian, Saturday, 15 December 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
sylvian's nine horses album a couple years back sounded especially like a scott album
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:01 (eleven years ago) link
Scott did sort of compare and contrast himself with Sylvian a little in the 1995 Wire interview.
― the clown's reflection is incorrect (Jon Lewis), Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:08 (eleven years ago) link
xpost - really? I find it nothing like, I was thinking (maybe more obviously) about the latest, Manafon.thanks about the Wire interview info, Jon.
― Max Florian, Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:13 (eleven years ago) link
the lyrics and crooning delivery are very engel, "the banality of evil" particularly ~ "king of the castle, room at the top, off with their heads, chop 'em off. hey, hello neighbor, right you are" ~
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:22 (eleven years ago) link
right, I can see it in the lyrics - thanks! maybe one day I'll be able to hear it in Sylvian's voice, too. for now, jaded cantankerous Sylvian fan here, who thinks everything he sang on Nine Horses and the last one is identical in tone and identically dull in delivery (I wish I could hear Scott, or anything else there, really).
― Max Florian, Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:32 (eleven years ago) link
and, to link this observation with the melody critique to Scott, it is somewhat true his melodies are frequently much the same, both on The Drift and Bish Bosch. this is why I tend to drift (pardon the pun) on the second half of BB.
but then, Bjork's melodies are often much the same, too.
― Max Florian, Saturday, 15 December 2012 01:37 (eleven years ago) link
dave's vibrato on the nine horses album has a little bit of bryan ferry in it but sounds an awful lot like scott's
― reggie (qualmsley), Saturday, 15 December 2012 07:13 (eleven years ago) link
You can position it in a different way - I would think you put more of yourself to when you get to play the record.
With Walker's later records its not so much about how many times you get to play them but the gap of time between each play.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:10 (eleven years ago) link
I understand the 21-min track can sound overwhelming as a prospect, but really it is so diverse than it's also the most entertaining.
with this record I like how, on first spins, you don't know exactly which is the beginning and which the ending of the various tracks.
― Max Florian, Saturday, 15 December 2012 11:49 (eleven years ago) link