DeRogatis:http://www.wbez.org/blogs/jim-derogatis/2012-12/forget-grammys-here%E2%80%99s-derogatis%E2%80%99-best-albums-2012-104230
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:42 (eleven years ago) link
D0ugl4s W0lk in Time:http://entertainment.time.com/2012/12/04/top-10-albums/slide/the-mountain-goats-transcendental-youth/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:46 (eleven years ago) link
Ha, whoops, that starts here:http://entertainment.time.com/2012/12/04/top-10-albums/slide/killer-mike-r-a-p-music/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:47 (eleven years ago) link
Good to see the BBC are continuing their efforts to single-handedly keep Emeli Sande in a career: http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcmusic/2012/12/bbc_music_top_25_albums_of_2012.html
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:49 (eleven years ago) link
NickB - did Wire publish a classical list?
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
from DeRo's Miguel blurb:
Finally breaking from the weight of expectations as well as genre constrictions, Kaleidoscope Dream gives us an artist with a unique vision, boundless potential and a weird haircut every bit as notable as that distaff visionary working similar turf, Janelle Monae. And wouldn’t those two be a concert double bill to die for?
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:50 (eleven years ago) link
DeRogatis :Channel Orange - On his first album, this 24-year-old New Orleans native offers a vision for remaking R&B that’s arguably as powerful as those from greats such as D’Angelo, Prince, Stevie Wonder or Marvin Gaye. Heartfelt, sensual, sexy but devoid of sexism, these tracks are lush and inviting but never less than unflinchingly raw and honest.
Folks just trolling Lex atp
― pandemic, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:51 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah they did J, but I mostly just typed in the lists where the names were short. Maybe I'll do that one in a bit though.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs - Trouble
this better be fucking amazing, with that name
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:53 (eleven years ago) link
you'd be surprised
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:54 (eleven years ago) link
Nick - no worries if you can't. Might have a browse this w/e.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
tally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs - Trouble
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, December 6, 2012
well, no, his name is Jim DeRogatis actually.
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:55 (eleven years ago) link
haha I'm listening to Totally Enormous Extinct Dinosaurs now ("Promises") and basically I'm mad at myself for buying in so quickly
apparently I'm just a syncopation whore
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 22:56 (eleven years ago) link
xp Ugh. Any talk of remaking/transcending R&B puts me in Lex's camp. I'm cool with big crossover "statement" records getting more press than well-crafted examples of the genre because it's been like that since forever, but I hate the idea that it's automatically superior to all the stuff the writer hasn't heard. And there's definitely a genre bias - hip hop and R&B are presented as if they need "transcending" when indie doesn't.
xp Emeli Sande had the second or third biggest selling album of the year in the UK. I don't think she's been waiting desperately for a nod from the BBC website to make her feel good about her career.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:03 (eleven years ago) link
She has the top selling one actually:http://www.officialcharts.com/chart-news/the-biggest-selling-albums-of-2012-so-far-revealed-1736/
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link
I had no idea...the only time she impinged on my world was at the Olympics opening/closing. Everyone else on that list seems more famous to me.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
Remarkable that 80% of the top ten are British. Is that a new thing?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:15 (eleven years ago) link
xp Oh there you go then. I assumed it was Adele now and forever. Weird that only 4/10 of those came out this year. And who knew Paloma Faith was that big?
Lol at the commenters telling the Official Charts Company that their list is wrong.
― Deafening silence (DL), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
lol I just got called a hipster like half an hour ago *likes r&b*
tbh I had no idea Cody Chesnutt released an album this year and I loved Headphone Masterpiece
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link
liked the idea of headphone masterpiece more than the execution
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:21 (eleven years ago) link
It's one of those albums that's a total mess and I wouldn't want it any other way.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link
It does strike me as odd that this whole conversation was sparked by Jeremih, who isn't really by any estimation one of the tastemaking hipsters lex would decry, in spite of his attempts to lump him in. I mean, he's pretty obviously following trends here, rather than setting them. You might as well get upset at people for liking Melonie Fiona.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:26 (eleven years ago) link
well yeah, the reason it became a convo is because an example as batshit as Jeremih was used. making a mixtape with DJ Drama and 2 Chainz and Mike Will Made It, what a hipster!
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:28 (eleven years ago) link
Hey Julio, because Ike hair:
Wire Modern Composition A-Z
William Berger/Iain Burnside - InsomniaJohn Bishoff - Audio CombinePhilip Blackburn - Ghostly PalmsJohn Cage - Etudes AustralesJohn Cage - Sonatas & InterludesEdison Denisov - Au Plus Haut Des CieuxBarbara Monk Feldman - The Northern ShoreMichael Finnisy - Second & Third QuartetsHans Werner Henze - In Lieblicher BlaueAnnea Lockwood - In Our NameAnthony Pateras - Collected Works 2002-2012Katharina Rosenberger - TexturenSkogen - Ist Gefallen In Den SchneeFrances White - In The Library Of DreamsJoanna Wozny - As In A Mirror, Darkly
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:37 (eleven years ago) link
― some dude, Thursday, December 6, 2012 5:28 PM (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
haha irl hipstars i knew (jordan knows them too no judgement) rlly like this jeremih record & didnt like him previously. i think it v literally comes down to the album art
― D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:40 (eleven years ago) link
new graphic designer = new audience
yeah but that constantly happens -- pop artist is popular, slowly spreads to different audiences, including late pass hipsters
― some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 23:44 (eleven years ago) link
yah im not really arguing or anything
― D-40, Friday, 7 December 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
yeah it's all good
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
Is BBC the first list to have Roman Reloaded?
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Friday, 7 December 2012 00:32 (eleven years ago) link
it was on the Spin list too
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 01:07 (eleven years ago) link
DeRo's list is weird--didn't he give the Frank Ocean a middling review on the radio show last summer? Still, kinda happy to see Aimee Mann on a list, since it probably won't make my top 10.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Friday, 7 December 2012 01:17 (eleven years ago) link
this thread is too huge now for me to find julio's beautifully prescient comment abt dylan/the wire, but reading my copy of the mag this morning, this made LOL:
"Has Dylan's voice ever sounded better?" - David Keenan on Tempest
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:01 (eleven years ago) link
Still think Dylan sounds a bit like Louis Armstrong on bits of the new album.
Not sure if anyone's actually linked to the BBC list so here it is, complete with out-of-the-blue Dexy's choice at #3:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/bbcmusic/2012/12/bbc_music_top_25_albums_of_2012.html
Also that's... quite a list of voters. Feels a bit weird to see past and present ILXers in there with Tim Westwood and Skream.
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:09 (eleven years ago) link
Also Britishes, was that Emili Sande album massive from the get-go or did she get an enormous post-Olympics bounce?
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:10 (eleven years ago) link
that dexys album is not very good.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:14 (eleven years ago) link
Emili Sande strikes me as the ultimate Jools Holland fodder
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:31 (eleven years ago) link
the empirical evidence of my 10-year-old niece loving emeli sande since long before the olympics suggests that she's always been a bit massive.
― Shane Richie Junior (Merdeyeux), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link
she's currently flogging mobile phones in some lame cinema advert, also (sande that is, not merdeyeux's niece)
― Ward Fowler, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link
Hmmm... The Kendrick album is very good, but judging from a lot of these lists you'd think it was the only hip hop album released in 2012.
― besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:42 (eleven years ago) link
2012 is the first year of the century that neither Jay-Z nor Kanye has released an album, so a new token rap pick was urgently needed.
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:52 (eleven years ago) link
Emeli Sandé's debut single was one of 2011's biggest even if a complete red herring for the boring-ass (but no more so than Adele) album
Any hip-hop lists that don't acknowledge Angel Haze are not to be trusted tbh. Kendrick's good though, could be worse
Xp the good music album though?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link
I honestly don't feel like Cruel Summer qwas significantly worse than Watch The Throne and prob better than My Beautiful Stupid Fantasy. I jam Mercy and Clique in a satisfyingly mindless way
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
The Angel Haze album is let down by too many slow and emo tracks, it starts to drag madly by the end. Wish there was a bit more balance.
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:55 (eleven years ago) link
Still dunno why Americans pronounce it "click" though
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:56 (eleven years ago) link
Angel Haze's emo deep thoughts are precisely what make her ~important~
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 10:57 (eleven years ago) link
yeah but Cruel Summer wasn't a Kanye solo album in even the way Watch The Throne was
"Clique" got old fast, kind of a secretly crappy song.
― some dude, Friday, 7 December 2012 10:59 (eleven years ago) link
Well she could do with framing those thoughts better, the album starts to feel mad repetitive in the final third.
BTW has anyone done an edit of Jungle Fever with the first third removed?
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 11:01 (eleven years ago) link
Btw have you heardthe song Angel Haze did with Rudimental?
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Friday, 7 December 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link
I keep meaning to listen to it but haven't actually got round to it? Is it any good?
― Matt DC, Friday, 7 December 2012 11:05 (eleven years ago) link