Year-End Critics' Polls 2012

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it's just R&B you don't like, and that's OK

some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:23 (eleven years ago) link

ppl who rep for that jeremih mixtape are not what i'd call "hipsters"

emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:27 (eleven years ago) link

Are you now or have you ever been a member of the Hipster party?

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:29 (eleven years ago) link

That Silent Servant album is terrific btw, DJP might like that one. One of the guys from Sandwell District, creepy late-night tube carriage sort of ambience.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:35 (eleven years ago) link

In case anyone is still paying attention to the Guardian's endless rollout, their #7 is that Alt-J album. Never heard it myself.

a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:45 (eleven years ago) link

it's a load of willy wee.

besides Sunny Real Estate (dog latin), Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link

I gave it a spin a couple months ago after I'd determined it wasn't some witch house shit (that name, oy!). I'll give it this...it doesn't really sound like much of anything else that's out right now. However, just because that's the case doesn't mean it's all that great.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:51 (eleven years ago) link

As a card carrying hipster, dues fully paid, I'd like to defend that Jeremih tape. Or at least Rosa Acosta.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link

what a token hipster video chick choice

some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:55 (eleven years ago) link

I was just about to say "hipster is a category only ever applied to other people" but Josiah has gone and contradicted that, in any case, fairly banal statement.

Neil S, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

Specifically other people who like OMG SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT things to oneself.

Neil S, Thursday, 6 December 2012 14:58 (eleven years ago) link

What you gonna hate on next, Adorn? Miguel = Hipster Music.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:01 (eleven years ago) link

I like "Breezeblocks" from Alt-J, but the album devolved really quickly into some sub-Dave Matthews shit, complete with the strained ballad singing and "world music" signifiers that actually aren't.

HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:02 (eleven years ago) link

Silent Servant is FANTASTIC btw, holy shit

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:03 (eleven years ago) link

ppl who rep for that jeremih mixtape are not what i'd call "hipsters"

― emo canon in twee major (BradNelson), Thursday, December 6, 2012 8:27 AM (35 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

disagree tbh lol

D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:04 (eleven years ago) link

it's kind of funny to me to read breathless "zomg it's techno-meets-noise!" descriptions as if 80s/90s industrial dance never happened, though; this really reminds me of a quieter, dubby version of the Doubting Thomas album from 1991

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

Silent Servant is FANTASTIC btw, holy shit

Yay! Really goes off at about track 4.

Albert Crampus (NickB), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:06 (eleven years ago) link

Curious what DJP would think of Ugandan Methods, or Kareem. Check it.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:08 (eleven years ago) link

Rev said this already but R&B/urban music is pretty hipsterish these days in general -- if you're listening to more than 4 R&B albums/mixtapes a year and checking for stuff like Jeremih then i'm going to class you as an R&B fan and nevermind to that other self-hating cultural anxiety horseshit.

some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

hipsters like R&B it is tru

D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

I was at a chicken wing sports bar last night and the jukebox had the goddamn Weeknd.

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

hipsters like chicken wings it is tru

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:21 (eleven years ago) link

they eat the wings with forks and knives

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:22 (eleven years ago) link

i said this earlier this mo. but i think im ok w/ going back to calling ppl 'hipsters'

D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

the era of 'cmon who still says hipsters' is over, imo

D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:23 (eleven years ago) link

do you credit Taylor Swift for this development

the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

thing is even things that WERE certifiably 'hipster R&B' a year ago like Weeknd/Ocean are now topping album sales and radio airplay charts and getting Grammy noms so hanging onto that idea is pointless no matter how you use it

some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:24 (eleven years ago) link

what up my hipsta

I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

Noted British hipsters: Funkystepz, contributed a few Weeknd remixes this year.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

basically calling anyone a hipster in earnest is just a way of calling someone a dickhead that makes you look like a bigger dickhead imo

some dude, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:25 (eleven years ago) link

thing is even things that WERE certifiably 'hipster R&B' a year ago like Weeknd/Ocean are now topping album sales and radio airplay charts and getting Grammy noms so hanging onto that idea is pointless no matter how you use it

― some dude, Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:24 AM (57 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

r&b fans becoming hipsters doesnt mean hipsters stop existing they are just more inclusive

D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

basically calling anyone a hipster in earnest is just a way of calling someone a dickhead that makes you look like a bigger dickhead imo

― some dude, Thursday, December 6, 2012 9:25 AM (43 seconds ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

see thats been the prevailing logic but i think maybe its time for a retrenchment of anti hipster sentiment

D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:26 (eleven years ago) link

it's what they DON'T rep for that's more telling. basically you can call them any synonym for dickhead you want, but if the only r&b you rep for is the slow sad dude shit (and lolbass remixes), i see u

t-swift feels me!

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

cosign silent servant love - DJP you should check out some sandwell district!

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

You make it very hard to be annoyed at you, Lex. Even if Taylor Swift is still incredibly..not..my...thing.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:32 (eleven years ago) link

Wire hip hop list is p good although i think shy glizzy is not as good as noz seems to

D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

Lex's 180 on the FACT magazine nodding-not-dancing UK bass stoner crew has been a joy to behold and I fully approve whatever the consistency of logic regarding the Birthday Sex dude.

Matt DC, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

FACT magazine nodding-not-dancing UK bass stoner crew

when i liked it you could dance to it, is the difference

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

or, it had hooks, and was fast

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link

im kinda w/ lex that the new jeremih record was not all that

D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

What you gonna hate on next, Adorn? Miguel = Hipster Music.

also i have always hated on the worst song on an otherwise amazing album

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

miguel is totes hipster music, his album cover looks like janelle monae's

D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

good music tho

D-40, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:38 (eleven years ago) link

miguel's explicitly said he was aiming for the indie hipster audience with this album

i mean, it's really great and all, but there's still a whole swathe of r&b that doesn't fit into this faded/stoned/gentrified/vibesy aesthetic that gets flat-out ignored

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

In case anyone is still paying attention to the Guardian's endless rollout, their #7 is that Alt-J album. Never heard it myself.

The couple of Alt-J songs I listened to reminded me of tUNe-yaRds - or maybe I'm confusing them with Django Django.

o. nate, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link

OH MY GOD I DIDN'T REALISE UNTIL NOW WHAT THE ALT+J COMMAND ACTUALLY DID LOOOOOL, SUCH WALKING CLICHÉS

#YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:42 (eleven years ago) link

but there's still a whole swathe of r&b that doesn't fit into this faded/stoned/gentrified/vibesy aesthetic that gets flat-out ignored

This is true of basically any genre that has a mainsteam corner to it.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

True, there is "hipster country" I guess, like maybe Justin Townes Earle, which gets more critical love than mainstream country, though less than pop-country like Taylor Swift.

o. nate, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

but there's still a whole swathe of r&b that doesn't fit into this faded/stoned/gentrified/vibesy aesthetic that gets flat-out ignored

ignored by who? people like different music for whatever reason, it doesn't make them a hipster or indeed a dickhead. it's just their taste in music. you talk about rockism but my main memory of ilm railing against it was that it was about refuting the notion of received wisdom, or the idea that one piece of music was factually better than another.

people's right to personal taste is sacrosanct and above all else.

Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

X-post Pop country rests like an oppressive smog over the rural areas of my homeland, I feel righteous in my hate.

Josiah Alan, Thursday, 6 December 2012 15:47 (eleven years ago) link


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