Going to an EDM night makes 28 feel ancient, its so blatantly music for 16-19 year olds.
― Josiah Alan, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:09 (eleven years ago) link
right, i see that
― the late great, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:10 (eleven years ago) link
xxp I don't think that's even true anymore. So much has changed in the last few years.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:12 (eleven years ago) link
And it can never go back to how it was at this point. The very fact that you have a whole generation kids, way younger than even Josiah describes whose first exposure to pop music is EDM means that they'll be attached to electronic music in some respect their whole lives, which has never been the case in the US before.
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:13 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, I guess that was more the feeling at the last brostep show I went to, I would never dream of going to one of those all ages raves.
― Josiah Alan, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:16 (eleven years ago) link
more intriguing imho is the extent to which ilm is disconnected from populist *deep* (and "deep" i guess) house - Hot Creations, Maceo Plex, Finnebassen, Tale of Us etc
― Mind Taker, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link
I'm pretty sure Hot Creations and Maceo Plex at least are pretty popular around here?
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:27 (eleven years ago) link
Uh, I should probably mention that Harry Fraud is probably my favorite "electronic" producer of the year. And I probably listened to a Fat Trel mixtape more than any of this stuff.
But not really sure where the line between IDM/trap and actual rap is anymore.
― Josiah Alan, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
really now
― these bitches is my sons and i make dad jokes (The Reverend), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link
You tell me, I'm disconnected from all these kids and their new fangled ipads and such.
― Josiah Alan, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
i mean, i wouldn't necessarily expect a whole thread about, say, "Benediction", but apparently there's not even a single *post* about it
― Mind Taker, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link
X-post I listen to the rap station and they're playing Taylor Swift and I get a little disoriented.
― Josiah Alan, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:33 (eleven years ago) link
For real though, if I had to do a blind listen between a Shigeto track and a Harry Fraud instrumental I might not know which is which.
― Josiah Alan, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:35 (eleven years ago) link
getting back to relevant markets, what tim says sounds right enough to me though admittedly i'm sorely wanting for casework out in the field. (i'm assuming wanted/bob sinclair is a decent example of what's being discussed?)
http://www.capitalfm.com/on-air/andi-durrant/andis-playlists/friday-23rd-november/http://www.capitalfm.com/on-air/andi-durrant/andis-playlists/saturday-24th-november/
i stick this show on sometimes (a jackin early adopter pleasingly btw) but it might as well be snapshots from mars for all i'll ever encounter it again
http://www.kissfmuk.com/fnk/2012/12/01/tracklist-301112/http://www.kissfmuk.com/kissbassmix/2012/11/28/tracklist-281112/
viz the tracklists of these kiss shows and you can see how easily it dips into uk treble n bass and not only eurobloghouse and edm
― r|t|c, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:36 (eleven years ago) link
― Mind Taker, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:32 (3 minutes ago) Bookmark
OTFM. i actually stopped myself from posting about this cos it became more interesting to see how far the silence was going to go
― r|t|c, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:39 (eleven years ago) link
you know, i don't even try to have the encyclopedic view of dance music i used to. i basically get the hardwax new releases rss feed and pick stuff off of it based on my own narrow interests in trad acid house and detroit-rooted techno. not sure if that means anything about anyone other than myself, pretty sure it doesn't.
― the late great, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:42 (eleven years ago) link
i dig a lot of stuff in that vein of populist house but for some reason "benediction" doesn't do it for me
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:43 (eleven years ago) link
harry fraud is dope and producers who started in an instrumental/dance music/beat scene/etc context do seem to be getting more work with vocalists, but if this stuff is filtering into 'mainstream' rap and r&b, it's happening pretty slowly? i can definitely think of examples, but only a few.
xp
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:45 (eleven years ago) link
link me to some of this stuff plz
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link
HudMo coproduced "Mercy" but it doesn't make it dahnce music anymore than his solo stuff or with TNGHT is rap music.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:47 (eleven years ago) link
x-post I read Resident Advisor, FACT, XLR8R, Little White Earbuds, download off of Dat Piff, and listen to the radio about twice a month.
If it doesn't get through that screen I'm probably not going to hear it. Maybe that's sticking my head in the sand.
I guess my "mainstream" is my limited exposure to rap Twitter and the mixtape sites.
― Josiah Alan, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
Listen to the Luke Hess album everyone, best thing he's done and that's saying something.
this is another one i just barely picked up, but it is definitely delivering so far
― akadarbarijava (psychgawsple), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:48 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah arguably a variety of remixes of "I Found You" fill this role, I'm not even sure if the Bob Sinclar one is the biggest in terms of club omnipresence (I don't really feel like trawling through every purported remix on youtube). The 2011 equivalent might be house remixes of "Rolling In The Deep", I think, though to be more precise the 2012 equivalent of those is this remix of Tracy Chapman's "Give Me One Reason" which I hear quite a bit but haven't had a chance to ID yet.
If I was going to argue against myself i'd point to stuff like the Calvin Harris/Florence Welch single which gets played alongside this kind of thing but also has a separate unlife as a pop song.
― Tim F, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:49 (eleven years ago) link
x-post Like I consider Azealia Banks to be "mainstream", but I'm living in my own bizarro world.
― Josiah Alan, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:51 (eleven years ago) link
yeah there's definitely a distinction here between internet-famous and irl-famous. in internet-land there's a definite sense of 'anything goes' for rap and r&b beats right now.
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:53 (eleven years ago) link
this romare thing is really cool, thank you friends.
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Monday, 3 December 2012 23:56 (eleven years ago) link
tracks:
mr beatnick - sun goddesstod terje - inspector norsefudge fingas - untytledlinkwood - secret valuechristopher rau - irisandres - new 4 uandres - hart plazadj sprinkles and mark fell - complete spiralmagic mountain high - b1B.D.I. presents compassion crew - Paper Tears
Albums:
vedomir - vedomirsmallpeople - Salty daysThe Reboot Joy Confession - Absolute III Way Harmonious Enterprise
― dsb, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:58 (eleven years ago) link
― Josiah Alan, Monday, December 3, 2012 3:51 PM Bookmark
fwiw, Az. Banks (or at least "212") gets played on the dance station here, which makes a lot more sense than if the rap station were to play here. but yeah, bizarro world.
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:04 (eleven years ago) link
i was going to say something like "i listen to commercial stuff, like butterz and night slugs!" but then i realized i would be outing myself as bizarro world too
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
My local rap station became the dance station, and then just started playing pop of all varieties. Still has all the ad drops about playing the "best in hip-hop" though.
Still its Southern Wisconsin, its not like Chi where you can pick between 5 or 6 different options.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:09 (eleven years ago) link
The best in hip-hop is apparently Justin Bieber, David Guetta and Chris Brown.
― Josiah Alan, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:10 (eleven years ago) link
isn't it?
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:11 (eleven years ago) link
there are a couple of commercial dance stations here, i will say that they sounds more like commercial dance 10 years ago than "underground" (i.e. boutique) stuff from today sounds like underground dance of 10 years ago.
but maybe that is just my cloth ears speaking.
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:12 (eleven years ago) link
like the guetta and sinclair of today sound more like the guetta and sinclair of early 2000s than the tresor records of today sound like the tresor records of early 2000s
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:13 (eleven years ago) link
obviously commercial dubstep throws a wrench in that formulation
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:14 (eleven years ago) link
― Mind Taker, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:25 (Yesterday) Bookmark
ok:
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
Hot Natured Feat Ali Love - Forward Motion (Mk Reverse Remix)EJECA - HorizonNick Curly - Underground (Dennis Ferrer Remix)Celsius - Must Be YouJesse Perez - Hialeah House PartyRampa ft Meggy - Everything (Mark Fanciulli Remix)George Fitzgerald - Child (+ NY Stomp Mix)Finnebassen - Touching MeFlashmob - HotBicep - $tripperMaxxi Soundsystem - Stella's Way (Huxley Remix)Deetron ft Hercules & Love Affair - Crave (Jamie Jones Tea Time In Detroit Mix)Catz 'n Dogz ft Monty Luke - They FrontinGeeman- Bang'tMia Dora - Occam's RazorLife And Death - MorganaBurnski & MANIK - You Know What Its LikeUnknown Artist - What You Need (Coat Of Arms Remix)Freaks - Black Shoes White Socks (Cajmere Remix)Cloud 9 - Do You Want Me Baby (Dusky Remix)Tensnake - Mainline (Dub)Bo Saris - She's On Fire (Maya Jane Coles Remix)Hostage - TrafficWaifs & Strays - Body Shiver (Hot Natured Remix)Flashmob - Need In MeAudiojack - Plastic Dreams Ian Pooley - CompuRhythm (Dixon’s 4/4 Treatment)Pirupa - Party Non Stop (Huxley Remix)Dusky - Flo JamDarius Syrossian & Hector Couto - MetalYousef - Beg (Hot Since 82 Future Mix)
dj sprinkles and mark fell - complete spiral
love this, and its just reminded me it got a repress
― coal, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:16 (eleven years ago) link
didn't really care for bang't, must be the only person out there that doesn't get the fuss over gerd. he certainly has a wide range and i have a soft spot for his (now ancient) trip hop and techno-jazz productions but a lot of the new stuff seems pretty middling
sensate focus = mark fell and bleep'n'bass luminary winston hazel, check it out
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
xpost you might like this gerd track if you like the ny stomp mix of george fitzgerald:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jc07sXowOk
― Heterocyclic ring ring (LocalGarda), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:18 (eleven years ago) link
that's pretty decent
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:19 (eleven years ago) link
so i'm curious - aside from what people liked, what do people think the lists will look like? what will be underrated? what will be overrated?
― the late great, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
nb list not the curated creme de la creme, just kept going til i lost the will to live
p much the only way i operate now :/
― r|t|c, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:20 (eleven years ago) link
above everything else :
http://www.xlr8r.com/files/news/terrencedixon_080312.jpg
also not mentioned & pretty good : carter tutti void - transverse
― sisilafami, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
love that twinkly synth in "Flo Jam" so much
kinda surprised by how i basically had no problem with all the tasteful r&b canon vocal samples this year, i mean in theory i should sympathize with Lex but somehow i just can't bring the hate! though admittedly Doctor Dru's "2 Know U" did elicit a big 'oh ffs ENOUGH ALREADY'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vAwmSy4YfwM
weird how there isn't much more deep house with Pharrell samples, he totally fits the loungey vibe of the 'classier' end of this stuff
― Mind Taker, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:41 (eleven years ago) link
all the tasteful r&b canon vocal samples this year
feels like this is the where tr&bcvs became officially played out
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:45 (eleven years ago) link
this is the year*
― rap乒 4-tay (The Reverend), Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:46 (eleven years ago) link
Terrence Dixon has blown them all away this year.
I also loved Voices From The Lake, Luke Hess, Shifted, The Perc EP, Shackleton mini lp and the Gerry Read lp has recently started getting some serious play.
In other year I would have loved the Talabot album but I have had a shit year and it is too happy for me right now.
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:52 (eleven years ago) link
In any other
― Damo Suzuki's Parrot, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:53 (eleven years ago) link
seriously, "Flo Jam" is about ten million Aaliyah samples too late
― Number None, Tuesday, 4 December 2012 00:55 (eleven years ago) link