AnCo "broke through" in like 2004. They used that momentum to break through higher and higher places (like NPR) over the course of two or three more albums over half a decade of work
The XX hit paydirt first time out and now are following up on it. The analogy doesn't work
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
Okay, DJP. Fine. Whatever. It still makes me squirm and want to put on, like, AC/DC or something so I know that up is up and down is down.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
is whiney doing his leftfield/noisy shit list this year y/n?
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
ty segall name always makes me want to start a woozy britronica group called SEAGULL I THANK YOU.
cuz those kinds of names are popular these days.
― scott seward, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
xpost y
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
good man!
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
new sad borad description:
"Feeling kinda bad for Animal Collective."
― scott seward, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
xp Do I need to spell it out? The career paths are not the same but the situation of following a big-selling, widely acclaimed, NPR-wooing indie album with a muted, poorly received one three years later is similar. I'm not going to waste time arguing about what does and doesn't count as a breakthrough.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
... Coexist wasn't poorly received, unless you are just looking at a small subset of the critical reaction?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
You apparently had to spell it ot because I had no idea that you meant that. Neither one of those records was especially "poorly recieved" though
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link
I mean, Coexist is currently rating a 79 on Metacritic, how does that translate to "poorly received"?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
MPP reached a lot of people who were never going to be into Centipede Hz, I doubt anyone expected it to sell as well. What I find interesting is the critical abandonment as shown in these EOY lists.
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
because we have Grimes now...
― is that my hand, dolphin? (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:26 (eleven years ago) link
<b>GRIMES</b>
i def got the impression that coexist had a lukewarm reception (not just here but among UK critics) but perhaps not
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:31 (eleven years ago) link
it had a lukewarm reception on ilx iirc
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
lol yeah, and then everyone else gave it an 8
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:36 (eleven years ago) link
That Spin list is pretty good. It's just occurred to me I have no idea what Japandroids sound like at all.
The strongest songs on that Santigold album were great but the record as an entirety was kind of an uninspiring 6/10 and I'm surprised enough people rated it highly enough to vote it into the top 10 in any list. I can't imagine it inspiring sufficient love or hate really.
― Matt DC, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:45 (eleven years ago) link
I pretty much adore the entire Santigold album and don't get why people hate any of the songs on it.
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Monday, 3 December 2012 19:49 (eleven years ago) link
It's not hate (as least not in my case). It's just..."oh, that's nice". Matt DC otm with uninspiring.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
i don't get the (muted) enthusiasm for japandroids (there and elsewhere i've seen), i haven't been able to get into that album. i think it's retroactive praise for people who missed praising their first album.
― j., Monday, 3 December 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
every song being "oh that's nice" as opposed to controversial or hot --> long term critical success
― mh, Monday, 3 December 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
Any Irish polls been announced yet? Be interesting to see how Frank O'Shane has gone down in the old country with his collection of loyalist ballads.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
I had high expectations for the Japandroids LP. I'm psyched that people are into it because I think they deserve their success, but IMO the energy on the 2010 singles and the 2009 full-length seemed a lot more genuine.
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
or more natural, and less labored...
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:12 (eleven years ago) link
no one is liking the new titus andronicus album? did it get any chatter on ilx?
― Mordy, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
xp Like seandalai says: "I doubt anyone expected it to sell as well. What I find interesting is the critical abandonment as shown in these EOY lists." MPP was a P&J-winning album that got rave reviews across the board - CHz, without being an obvious dud, is hardly registering a mention. Something similar happened to TVOTR last year and I see it happening to a lesser extent with the xx. Metacritic doesn't tell you much because there are a lot of over-generous critics out there and if you're a certain kind of band you have to deliver a real turkey to get less than 70.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:20 (eleven years ago) link
IMO CHz is way better than Dear Science.
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:23 (eleven years ago) link
SPIN has a section called "Worst New Music."
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
no, 'nine kinds of light' (?) would be the analogue.
― j., Monday, 3 December 2012 20:32 (eleven years ago) link
Yes, exactly. Using P&J as a very rough measure of EOY consensus, Dear Science was #1 and Nine Types was #43.
― Deafening silence (DL), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah I didn't really care about Dear Science or Nine Kinds of Light. I especially don't understand Dear Science getting P&J/SPIN "album of the year" back in the day.. While "Centipede Hz" I think is simply getting forgotten for being less-than-outstanding even though it's full of well executed ideas.
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:37 (eleven years ago) link
Any noteworthy singles/tracks lists floating around?
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
Popmatters started their 'best songs of 2012' list today.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 December 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link
Ours will be next month, and I firmly believe it's the best list of its kind on the internets.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
(Albums, too...maybe, but especially tracks.)
The ILX list? Yeah, of course, but in the meantime I'm looking for some stuff to fill up my personal one.
― billstevejim, Monday, 3 December 2012 20:58 (eleven years ago) link
I just gave the Popmatters list a looksee. I appreciate the effort, I guess, but there's a ton of "blah" on there.
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:02 (eleven years ago) link
Also, Popmatters didn't rank "212" last year I guess? And then shoved it in at #65 this year?
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, Popmatters list isn't anything to get excited about, but I thought I'd throw it out there as an option. They typically play it a little too indie-centric for my tastes, but they have a handful of great metal writers that make it worth my visit. I'm far more interested in their genre lists.
― HAPPY BDAY TOOTS (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:09 (eleven years ago) link
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last year's was so amazing. once more: http://imgur.com/a/gCkic
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:11 (eleven years ago) link
anyone gonna have starkey's orbits on their lists? top 10 album for me
― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link
When does the ILX EOY nom process start?
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:24 (eleven years ago) link
Haven't set a date yet; I guess next week?
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:25 (eleven years ago) link
I'll probably kick the thread off a week from Friday (that will be the 14th).
― Johnny Fever, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:28 (eleven years ago) link
roger that
― a Christmas .gif for you from (seandalai), Monday, 3 December 2012 21:29 (eleven years ago) link
anyone gonna have starkey's orbits on their lists? top 10 album for me― childish bambino (rennavate), Monday, December 3, 2012 4:14 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
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― ciderpress, Monday, 3 December 2012 21:39 (eleven years ago) link
Not the usual suspects here (lots of jazz/fusion/classical/folk/etc):
http://tedgioia.com/bestalbumsof2012.html
― o. nate, Monday, 3 December 2012 22:44 (eleven years ago) link
kudos for santigold too, no 10 seems high but it's been weirdly overlooked elsewhere considering how strong the strongest cuts on it are
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend)
Agree with this, listened to it the other day and enjoyed it so much more than I remembered. The Keepers, Disparate Youth, This Isn't Our Parade and The Riot's Gone are some of the best songs of the year.
I'm pretty gutted iamamiwhoami's Kin has only made the RYM list so far, guess it's going to be this years ignored masterpiece like When Saints Go Machine was last year. Hopefully it can squeeze into the ILM list like that did. I think it has stronger tunes than Grimes, less filler than The Chromatics and more variety than Purity Ring. I like those albums but Kin blew them away.
― Kitchen Person, Monday, 3 December 2012 22:48 (eleven years ago) link
Possibly on my tracks list
http://m.soundcloud.com/opponents/lucid-dreams
― Raymond Cummings, Monday, 3 December 2012 23:00 (eleven years ago) link