Baroness made the Paste list.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 13:49 (eleven years ago) link
Don't think I've seen it in any lists yet but I really like Zombie Zombie - Rituels d'un Nouveau Monde, which came out last week.
― Fastnbulbous, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
this makes sense, as it is a well-crafted indie rock record
― too many encores (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:05 (eleven years ago) link
Heavy but not metal: Swans will be on a lot of lists
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:09 (eleven years ago) link
Blut Aus Nord is on the AllMusic list too
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:12 (eleven years ago) link
Om and UFOmammut ought to be on the crossovery lists too.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:16 (eleven years ago) link
You're assuming that other people find those records as underwhelming as you do but are scared to say so. Maybe they just, y'know, really like them.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:37 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm liking this a lot
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:39 (eleven years ago) link
I'd never paid much attention to Zombie Zombie before but that album bangs. I suppose it shares with Mungolian Jet Set at their best this sort of soundtrack to a boys adventure story from the 1930s kind of vibe, except they're coming to it from a krautrocky direction rather than a Balearic/disco/stupid Muppet voice direction.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:43 (eleven years ago) link
i recommend their debut album too, a land for renegades (tbh the new one doesn't move their thing on a great deal, but it's a good thing so i don't mind)
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:46 (eleven years ago) link
my personal coping method w/r/t these EOY lists is turning out to be singing very loudly at them "HIDE AWAY AND FIND YOUR PEACE OF MIND / WITH SOME INDIE RECORD THAT'S ~MUCH~ COOLER THAN MINE"
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:47 (eleven years ago) link
I'm so sorry, is there anyone we can call for you?
― I loves you, PORGI (DJP), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 14:54 (eleven years ago) link
I've only heard one Alt-J song, and I don't even remember the title of it, but it was pretty gross.
― Room 227 (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link
... rather than a Balearic/disco/stupid Muppet voice direction.
lol
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, November 28, 2012 2:47 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Seeing as almost the entirety of ilx disses anything that has the remotest whiff of "indie" upon it and proclaims Taylor Swift to be the genius of our generation, don't you think your "poor victimised poptimist" stance has worn somewhat thin?
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:38 (eleven years ago) link
people love to form a mixed set of opinions from many individuals into an imaginary single-minded monolith. including you, apparently.
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:40 (eleven years ago) link
I can probably give you evidence to back up my claims, though.
Anyway, I was originally going to post on this thread b/c I thought someone might know where the 2012 thread equivalent of "we're halfway through 20xx - what are your favourite records?" is. I think it might have been called something slightly different but I'm obviously not searching for the right phrases...
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link
Rolling "favorite music of 2012 so far" thread (albums and/or tracks edition)
― have a sandwich or ice cream sandwich (Jordan), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link
If you're talking about "ILX" as a monolith you can provide evidence to back up almost any claim no matter how batshit.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link
Ah brilliant. Definitely need to refresh my memory of what was out and good earlier in the year.
xpost
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link
I clearly wasn't saying "ilx" was a single-minded organism, otherwise how could it possibly have an "almost all" selection? Learn to read better.
― emil.y, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link
emil.y OTM. it's not like ILX is some kind of alt/indie stronghold, far from it. So it would be nice to be spared the annual preaching to the choir this time round and accept that PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:55 (eleven years ago) link
that's not aimed at anyone particular - it goes for me and my complaints upthread too.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:56 (eleven years ago) link
eh the problem isn't that people like different things it's that they like bad things that are boring and everyone all likes the same bad boring things and this time of year everyone compiles it all into lists--not to say that this this complaint isn't played out, but it's not the same as PEOPLE LIKE DIFFERENT THINGS
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 16:59 (eleven years ago) link
Oh come on you know full well there'll be as much indie as anything else when ILX does its poll, probably more. It's not like either camp can claim to be particularly hard done by here.
Being sniffy about indie is a glorious ILM tradition that goes back to pretty much the very first thread though.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:01 (eleven years ago) link
Think of it as a counterbalance to decades of indie fans claiming they're the only ones who really care about music.
xxpost So moan about the lists or individual albums being boring, don't act like some sort of genre martyr because "OMG indie rag put lots of indie in its top 10, how dare they" etc..
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
"almost the entirety of ilx" disses indie and loves Taylor is just absurd tea party false minority shit
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link
xp everything is an indie rag now fyi
― flopson, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link
In fairness if I had to hazard a guess it would be that at least 80% of ILM, myself included, would self-identify as an indie kid or having been an indie kid at some point in the past, including many of the people who take the "lol indie" stance in these threads.
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:05 (eleven years ago) link
quite, but also most people on ILM now say they like, or at least appreciate, all kinds of music
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
i can't remember the last time anyone, other than some random kid googler, came along and slated pop as a genre or slagged-off a pop artist because they didn't write their own songs or didn't play guitar or whatever, all the while bigging-up some aching shitpipe of a landfill indie band.
anyway, we talk about this stuff every year as well, so not worth going into it any more now.
― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:10 (eleven years ago) link
There's an indie lurker contingent that votes in ILX polls but Taylor Swift gets a hell of a lot more love from people who actually post than, say, the Cribs do. Lex should pop on over to the Guardian AOTY comment thread if he wants some old skool "this isn't real music" cranks to kick against.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
Zombie Zombie - Rituels d'un Nouveau Monde, great so far. Tip!
― MikoMcha, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:30 (eleven years ago) link
The slagging off of pop is all over the Guardian albums thread, though it tends to be – I think - from those of advancing years bitter about the loss of "proper" music, or from those who can't understand why not everyone is swooning over Japanese noise or Southern Lord releases.
xpost I see Dorian is making this very point.
― Manfred Mann meets Man Parrish (ithappens), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:31 (eleven years ago) link
Taylor Swift gets about as much love as any one of a dozen current indie acts on ILM (and not whoever the Cribs are, someone with an established ILM fanbase).
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
"indie" is a conveniently amorphous umbrella for everyone to hide different things under, Lex aside most people using the word as an insult have a 'good indie' and a 'bad indie' in mind (and no 2 people have the same concept of what those groups encompass).
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
my comment was directed at all the publications whose lists we are discussing, not ilx! this is the reason i post on ilx!
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link
and i just listened to the scott walker album
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:36 (eleven years ago) link
Lex likes enough more than enough indie to have that filter as well he just doesn't acknowledge its existence very often.
(hah, xpost)
― Matt DC, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:37 (eleven years ago) link
true
― some dude, Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
Someone on the Guardian thread complaining that the Cooly G album has too much filler and then saying that the Chromatics is their favourite record of the year. What the hell? That album is about three years longer than it needed to be.
― Albert Crampus (NickB), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link
The authenticity bores on the Guardian thread have suddenly turned me into a passionate defender of the (pretty good, too long, occasionally facepalmy) Lana Del Rey record.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:13 (eleven years ago) link
What's this year's go-to album for the comments crank with the superiority complex? Looks like Swans so far. (Not that it's Swans' fault)
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:15 (eleven years ago) link
i've actually been making little noises of delight every time a comment along the lines of "THIS LIST HAS LOST ITS LAST SHRED OF CREDIBILITY" pops up. guardian grumps giving me life. a repeat of last year's beyoncé/katy b outrage is prob too much to hope for, though i enjoyed the minor consternation farrah abraham caused.
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:22 (eleven years ago) link
It's like poptimism never happened.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
"EveChang
28 November 2012 6:22 PMLink to this comment
If you want authentic real music by artists who write their own songs then your choice should be the magnificent Taylor Swift album rather than the old fart overrated garbage that are Swans."
Ha ha
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:29 (eleven years ago) link
lol i remember her killing it in the comments last year too! see i do <3 some of the readers
the lana del rey complaints just make me apoplectic because NO ONE CAN SPELL HER VERY SIMPLE NAME
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:33 (eleven years ago) link
Go tell it to Alex Petridis. Commenters don't spel 2 gud.
― Deafening silence (DL), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:35 (eleven years ago) link
oh i have seen enough manglings of my surname to know that :(
John9113 December 2011 5:49 PMLink to this comment2Jesus Christ, clearly just put in to make the list more interesting and less predictable. I've heard the album, and it's completely banal and average. If it's the 4th best of the year then this must be music's all time worst year.I wish I'd been around in 1967 when this top 10 would include Sgt. Pepper, Velvet Underground and Nico, Forever Changes, The Doors, Are You Experienced, Piper at the Gates of Dawn etc. EveChang13 December 2011 5:56 PMLink to this comment8Response to John91, 13 December 2011 5:49 PMWhy would you want to live in the past?
eve chang also says she's a teenage girl, i hope in 5-6 years she's writing for the guardian
― #YOLO ONO (lex pretend), Wednesday, 28 November 2012 18:39 (eleven years ago) link