POSSE! YOU KEEP THE SPIRIT ALIVE! It's the 1990s ELECTRONIC ALBUMS poll results!

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lots of ballots and a little tough love = recipe for success imo

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:22 (eleven years ago) link

(j/k about britishness of course)

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:23 (eleven years ago) link

bonus points from me if you can find a way to make OMD eligible (but still come in behind a bunch of goofy Italo 12"s) and New Order and Depeche Mode not eligible

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

+1

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:25 (eleven years ago) link

no way to measure this with precision.

alternately what about a poll to determine who can vote in the poll.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:29 (eleven years ago) link

wherein candidates canvas with poll promises, i.e. "i am a quiet storm man" etc.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

80s dance poll electoral pollege

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:38 (eleven years ago) link

this could be awesome, maybe as a separate thing for 12"s

1. noms thread for electoral pollege.
2. electoral pollege poll
3. meet the pollege and bring 12"s to the general attention of the public (jaxon memorial thread)
4. results!

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Saturday, 3 November 2012 23:46 (eleven years ago) link

Oh dudes, I was talking about a 2000-2010 poll in the spirit of this one... An '80s electronic poll is an irresistible thing, but one I don't quite feel equipped to properly steer...

Clarke B., Sunday, 4 November 2012 00:05 (eleven years ago) link

I think matt p was volunteering to do the 80s

Algerian Goalkeeper, Sunday, 4 November 2012 00:42 (eleven years ago) link

I think the easiest way to stop the 80s poll from being dominated by the usual suspects wouldbe to rule out synth pop, new wave, and dance pop, and focus on just disco offshoots (boogie, italo, hi-NRG, etc), house, techno, and electro. I love Prince and Madonna and Pet Shop Boys, but I wouldn't want the poll to be dominated by them or New Order.

Tuomas, Sunday, 4 November 2012 09:47 (eleven years ago) link

If you call it a 'Dance' poll people will vote accordingly. I know you could dance to West End Girls or Hip To Be Square, but it'll be clear that's not what you're getting at.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 November 2012 10:18 (eleven years ago) link

But it's not clear at all. Madonna's Everybody is a straight-up club track. West End Girls was huge on the US dance charts and originally produced by Bobby O. Blue Monday and Confusion were inspired by, and played in, New York clubs. Shep Pettibone is one of my favourite 80s dance producers and lots of his best work was remixes of big pop records. There's no wall between dance and pop in that period.

One solution might be to restrict big acts to a few key tracks/remixes in the nominations list so that they don't deluge the poll. It seems perverse to exclude them entirely - if, say, Madonna's career had gone the same way as Shannon's, Everybody would be as clear a choice as Let the Music Play.

Deafening silence (DL), Sunday, 4 November 2012 11:03 (eleven years ago) link

I was assuming that those tracks would be in tbh, or at least that West End Girls isn't generally understood to be dance track. Evidently it's me who's misunderstood what the poll's to be about.

I would suggest that the simple ideas are the best when it comes to polls though - I'm no fan of the torturous nomination process, though tbf the recent 80s rock polls seemed popular enough. State the idea and let voters decide, I say.

Ismael Klata, Sunday, 4 November 2012 11:30 (eleven years ago) link

Wait didn't we just do a 2000s poll? Or am I missing something?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Sunday, 4 November 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

i don't recall an albums component, though, which i think was clarke b's question.

of course you end up shazaming yourself (c sharp major), Sunday, 4 November 2012 12:37 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for that link (my keeping-up has been patchy lately)... I do think an album poll would be fun; there were so many good records in such a huge variety of microgenres and scenes. I'd like to define things a little less "nebulously" and really focus on electronically produced non-pop music in the vein of this '90s poll.

Clarke B., Sunday, 4 November 2012 14:25 (eleven years ago) link

I'd also like to cut it off at 2010 so there's a bit (even just a little bit) of hindsight involved.

Clarke B., Sunday, 4 November 2012 14:26 (eleven years ago) link

As long as we can nail down what percentage of Pop is acceptable an 80s dance poll could be really cool.

Josiah Alan, Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:17 (eleven years ago) link

DL otm above, i think a little pruning in the noms list is a good way to go about it.

Tome Cruise (Matt P), Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link

Is there still a plan to have an italo poll, or are we moving towards a general 80s one?

Chewshabadoo, Sunday, 4 November 2012 16:51 (eleven years ago) link

I'd love a general 80s dance one if it was a 100-song rollout and the big name choices were limited to make room for diversity. I like the idea of having Madonna, A Guy Called Gerald, Cybotron, Francois Kevorkian, Streetsounds, Italo, Shannon, New Order, YMO, Phuture, Frankie Knuckles, Cameo, etc all in the same poll.

Deafening silence (DL), Sunday, 4 November 2012 18:30 (eleven years ago) link

Just checking out these results while Stuart Maconie plays cuts from Artificial Intelligence on the radio. Sad not to see any Drexciya on the results. I should have voted I guess!

Neil S, Sunday, 4 November 2012 21:51 (eleven years ago) link

Here's my IDM-guilt ballot

1. Autechre - LP5
2. Orbital - In Sides
3. Autechre -EP7
4. Plaid - Rest Proof Clockwork
5. Sabres of Paradise - Haunted Dancehall
6. Aphex Twin - Come to Daddy EP
7. Prodigy, The - Music for the Jilted Generation
8. Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
9. Plone - For Beginner Piano
10. Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do
11. Prodigy, The - Experience
12. Autechre - Chiastic Slide
13. Aphex Twin - Richard D. James Album
14. Aim - Coldwater Music
15. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works Vol. II
16. Autechre - Amber
17. Black Dog - Spanners
18. Daft Punk - Homework
19. MDK - Open Transport
20. Squarepusher - Hard Normal Daddy
21. µ-ziq - Royal Astronomy
22. Polygon Window - Surfing on Sine Waves
23. Autechre - Tri Repeatae
24. Air - Moon Safari
25. Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85 – 92

Quite surprised at the order of some of my selections tbh, but the top 10 is about right for me.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Monday, 5 November 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

Thanks for Tuomas for making this happen!

My ballot, built (with a couple of exceptions) out of nostalgia.

1.Plastikman - Consumed
2.Susumu Yokota - Sakura
3.Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman
4.Leftfield - Leftism
5.Orbital - In Sides
6.Sasha & Digweed - Northern Exposure
7.Burger/Ink - Las Vegas
8.Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85 – 92
9.Deep Dish - Yoshiesque
10.KLF, The - The White Room
11.Prodigy, The - Experience
12.Nu Yorican Soul - Nu Yorican Soul
13.Boards of Canada - Music Has the Right to Children
14.Chemical Brothers, The - Exit Planet Dust
15.Gas - Königsforst
16.KLF, The - Chill Out
17.Global Communication - 76:14
18.Drexciya - The Quest
19.Autechre - Incabula
20.Daft Punk - Homework

calumerio, Monday, 5 November 2012 14:21 (eleven years ago) link

Badass forum around here. Wowzer!

Here's what I would have voted for:

1. Mouse on Mars - Autoditacker
2. Chemical Brothers - Dig Your Own Hole

nearly every Aphex Twin release
a bunch of Autechre
some Squarepusher (can't believe it when people diss SP... I guess you have to be a musician???... Go Plastic all the way, losers!)

Meat Beat Manifesto album or 2
Future Sound of London Lifeforms dominates
Prodigy Experience, Jilted, and PHAT TOO
3 albums by the Orb
Drexciya, Transllusion, Elecktroids
Boards of Canada
Monolake
Underground Resistance
Prefuse 73
DJ Shadow
Orbital
Plaid
Black Secret Technology, 28 Gun Bad Boy
Burger Ink
Innerzone Orchestra (no Carl Craig or Paperclip)
Model 500
maybe Plastikman
Underworld

Goldie = bleh
Burial = good but not on my list
Probably wouldn't even include Basic Channel

dojo, Monday, 5 November 2012 16:48 (eleven years ago) link

some Squarepusher (can't believe it when people diss SP... I guess you have to be a musician???... Go Plastic all the way, losers!)

I like SP but the whole "you have to be a musician" excuse doesn't hold water here, I think

frogbs, Monday, 5 November 2012 17:03 (eleven years ago) link

a few years back i went to chicago for a few weeks.
i happened to chance upon a cheap copy of the us edition of 'in sides' which has an extra cd of remixes etc.
when i came home i then just added it to the archive and never gave it a listen.
i had no idea the album was so loved.
i always assumed that their earlier albums were the faves !
of course following the love in this poll i have dug said cd out of the archive and given its first airing today ..
so, ta for the nudge ..

mark e, Monday, 5 November 2012 17:12 (eleven years ago) link

FROGBS: "I like SP but the whole "you have to be a musician" excuse doesn't hold water here, I think"

Probably not. I guess I just don't see how people could dig Confield or Drukqs and not like Go Plastic. It just seems weak minded.

dojo, Monday, 5 November 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

mark, In Sides is one of the best albums ever recorded

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Monday, 5 November 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link

I could have sworn amongst out other drunken blather that I said this to you when we went out drinking

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Monday, 5 November 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link

haha ! you very probably did, as i had just bought it that day ..

mark e, Monday, 5 November 2012 18:23 (eleven years ago) link

that bonus disk the the 18 hour version of The Box is pretty epic!

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 5 November 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link

I guess I just don't see how people could dig Confield or Drukqs and not like Go Plastic. It just seems weak minded.

― dojo, Monday, November 5, 2012 12:40 PM (54 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

O_o

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Monday, 5 November 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link

that bonus disk the the 18 hour version of The Box is pretty epic!

checked. my extra disc has 2 versions of satan, the saint, the sinner, and a live version of halcyon.

mark e, Monday, 5 November 2012 18:53 (eleven years ago) link

ooh you got the second edition

the first edition has:

1. "Times Fly (Slow)" 7:58
2. "Sad But New" 7:29
3. "Times Fly (Fast)" 7:53
4. "The Tranquilizer" 6:27
5. "The Box (full version)" (Hartnoll, Hartnoll, Grant Fulton, Peter Mauder) 28:11

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Monday, 5 November 2012 18:55 (eleven years ago) link

humph.
didn't know there were variations !
would have preferred the full version of the box .. used to have that on cassette and its amazing ..

mark e, Monday, 5 November 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link

yeah IIRC the first edition combined The Box EP with Times Fly EP (with The Box EP glommed together into one long Frankestein track)

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Monday, 5 November 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

i wish they'd have combined both bonus discs but yeah you want the one with "Times Fly". I geeked out when I finally found a copy.

frogbs, Monday, 5 November 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link

My second edition has a Live at Glastonbury version of "Impact (The Earth Is Burning)" which is one of the greatest pieces of recorded music ever.

Also "The Sinner" is pretty wicked.

Tim F, Monday, 5 November 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link

Either two-disc edition is better than the most common one-CD UK edition with The Saint etc just tacked on the end right after the main In Sides tracks. In Sides is such an amazing album and then bam, The Saint starts up and totally destroys the vibe. I had the original release on tape and wanted to upgrade it to CD for years but didn't want to pay money for that edition.

(I'm not quite going to say The Saint is bad but it's definitely not on In Sides' level. OK, what is? But it's p. much my least favourite thing Orbital did during the whole of the 90s.)

I think the tracks on Dan's "first edition" were all on singles UK-side: the first 4 tracks from the Times Fly single and the 28-minute Box is probably all 4 tracks of the Box CD single put together. I've seen the Box CDS cheapish over here recently and used to see the Times Fly double-7" fairly often, so it may be easier here to get hold of the singles than specific American editions of the album.

a panda, Malmö (a passing spacecadet), Monday, 5 November 2012 22:32 (eleven years ago) link

In Sides is such an amazing album and then bam, The Saint starts up and totally destroys the vibe.

this is actually why i never bought the cd edition as it was obvious that this would be the case ..

mark e, Monday, 5 November 2012 22:34 (eleven years ago) link

"The Saint" really is the worst.

But srsly if you haven't heard that version of Impact you need it in your life.

Tim F, Monday, 5 November 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

"The Sinner" is great tho

Gandalf’s Gobble Melt (DJP), Monday, 5 November 2012 22:38 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah, it's like an extended apology letter.

Tim F, Monday, 5 November 2012 22:45 (eleven years ago) link

This version:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OhVU8RKRaTY

in the Land of the Yik Yak (Sanpaku), Monday, 5 November 2012 23:20 (eleven years ago) link

Actually, no, that's 1994. The one Tim is talking about starts at 40:00 here, I think.

in the Land of the Yik Yak (Sanpaku), Monday, 5 November 2012 23:30 (eleven years ago) link

CD says "Live at V96 Chelmsford" if that helps.

Tim F, Monday, 5 November 2012 23:31 (eleven years ago) link

Maybe not Glastonbury, I just assumed that without checking.

Tim F, Monday, 5 November 2012 23:32 (eleven years ago) link


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