POSSE! YOU KEEP THE SPIRIT ALIVE! It's the 1990s ELECTRONIC ALBUMS poll results!

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Yup, I'd forgotten about that cover. Brilliant.

millmeister, Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:21 (eleven years ago) link

so far the list is only 45% IDM, nice!

the late great, Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:37 (eleven years ago) link

only artist of color not a junglist is carl craig, who of course invented jungle

the late great, Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link

Boo to Leftism but yay to everything else that's shown up today.

Hard Normal Showaddywaddy (Mr Andy M), Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:41 (eleven years ago) link

the top 10 is going to be all detroit techno

the late great, Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:42 (eleven years ago) link

waiting for the lardossen takeover

happy little (clouds), Thursday, 1 November 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link

top 10: all Orbital.

Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link

15. Underworld - Second Toughest in the Infants (Junior Boy's Own, 1996)
158 points, 8 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/secondtoughestintheinfants.jpeg

http://open.spotify.com/album/3UfnrvOQRJUgLevE5l4nVF

juanita/kiteless/to dream of love

one of the best openings of any album.

― jed_, 25. toukokuuta 2008 3:30

wow guys, I used to really like this album but now I really LOVE it, had heard it 25+ times without hearing ANY of the crazy sounds that go on during "Banstyle" or "Confusion"

― frogbs, 4. lokakuuta 2012 23:15

second toughest was one of those leave it in the CD player and play it over and over again cds. it is ace. i think it's common to resent the born slippy cultural thing, but that does not debase the fact that it is a fucking great tune to dance off yr nuts to. esp v long mix.

― Alan Trewartha, 24. tammikuuta 2002 3:00

I owe it al to STITI. It's the record that got me into electronic music, house music, DANCE music even.

― roxymuzak (roxymuzak), 28. kesäkuuta 2004 17:49

that monochrome pall is part of what i find really absorbing about second toughest. i find it difficult to explain how that is different from merely "boring" or "featureless" but somehow the songs are distinct, yet flow naturally one into the other without any giant leaps or gaps.

partly i think the danceability of second toughest is subtle yet powerful- the repetitive figures of the "juanita/kiteless" opening block at first just make you bounce around a little bit, jiggle a leg in your seat or whatever, but by later you're humming along with the vocoder and it picks up speed. this is opposed to the danceability of, say, "push upstairs," which just starts bashing down the door and forcing you to dance with the detroit-ness of it all and builds even more on that.

― .rob (rgeary), 29. kesäkuuta 2004 8:30

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:36 (eleven years ago) link

14. Global Communication - 76:14 (Dedicated, 1994)
165 points, 8 votes, 1 first place vote.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/7614.jpeg

http://open.spotify.com/album/4b1iSPXfaGmOgKmec1wk7X

Ho ho. It's a very nice album, in a sort of mid 70s Tangerine Dream kind of way, and is an ideal record to fall asleep to and have strange but happy dreams. It's lovely.

― Rob M (Rob M), 21. helmikuuta 2003 18:51

76:14 is an album of true beauty.

― The conflicts, the craziness, and the sound of credenzas falling (Stevie D), 11. joulukuuta 2009 6:02

can someone tell me about more moments in music like the moment 10:02 into 14:31, that might be the most sonorous moment i've heard in all my ambient listenings

― dyao know what i mean (acoleuthic), 19. joulukuuta 2009 3:31

that track has healing properties for real

― jabba hands, 19. joulukuuta 2009 3:45

the proverbial cloud of titties

― dyao know what i mean (acoleuthic), 19. joulukuuta 2009 3:57

I have this album and U.F.Orb on the headphones and a new prescription for beta blockers. I think I can survive the next few weeks. Yeah.

― Karen D. Tregaskin, 18. elokuuta 2010 12:41

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:53 (eleven years ago) link

I'm a bit perplexed by that Louis comment, what sort proverb talks about "cloud of titties"?

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:54 (eleven years ago) link

Second Toughest should be top 5 :( But hey. You keep the spirit alive.

frogbs, Thursday, 1 November 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link

i was playing the GC album the other day and my bf remarked "this is kind of bad." i don't agree with him but i see what he means: the general turn away from sampled-sounds to generative sounds has caused it not to age v well.

happy little (clouds), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:01 (eleven years ago) link

yeah.

hot slag (lukas), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:04 (eleven years ago) link

That's a weird opinion, you'd think ambient music was one of the genres where the sound being fully synthetic would matter the least? Why would lack of samples hurt an ambient album?

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:08 (eleven years ago) link

it has less to do with the merits of the album and more with the general trend electronic music has taken since the late 00's

happy little (clouds), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:12 (eleven years ago) link

'second toughest in the infants' is in the running for my favorite album of all time.

sug ones (omar little), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:14 (eleven years ago) link

U.F.ORB is just so much more interesting sonically and ideas wise than 76:14.

dsb, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:36 (eleven years ago) link

well i guess Ultraworld would be a fairer comparison chronologically and is yet to place.

dsb, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:38 (eleven years ago) link

I only got around to listening to the GC album last year and was underwhelmed to be honest. And I have mates who swear by it. Presumably if I'd lived with it through the 90's I'd think differently. Personally find 'Adventures beyond the Ultraworld' more sonically interesting than both U.F.Orb and 76:14. Now I wonder if that album will turn up - was No. 8 on my list.

millmeister, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

xp:

Alas, those values are a bit irrelevant to ambient music's ideal of being "as ignorable as it is interesting" (Eno)

圧迫系プレイ (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:41 (eleven years ago) link

only things I remember off 76:14 are the first and last track, which are both breathtaking. outside of that I dunno where the "good parts" are

frogbs, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:42 (eleven years ago) link

well i guess Ultraworld would be a fairer comparison chronologically and is yet to place.

too much wine.

originally read that as 'ultrasound' which would have been a weird twist, even for ILM standards ...

mark e, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

I much prefer their Chapterhouse remodelling entitled Pentamerous Metamorphosis. But as the listmaker for the first internet poll that enshrined 76:14 as an all-time ambient album, I can't deny 76:14's staying power.

圧迫系プレイ (Sanpaku), Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link

I much prefer their Chapterhouse remodelling entitled Pentamerous Metamorphosis.

ringo bingo.

that deserves a big OTM from me ..

mark e, Thursday, 1 November 2012 21:47 (eleven years ago) link

:D at using the inner gatefold of Jilted instead of the cover

Whatever happened to Leftfield, btw? It seems they haven't released any new music since 1999, neither as Leftfield nor under any other aliases.

they split up, apparently largely due to touring- and stimulant-related stresses on their personal relationship. Neil Barnes reformed to tour in 2010 with most of the original singers and a new drummer, with Daley's blessing but continued lack of interest in being involved.

sug night (sic), Thursday, 1 November 2012 23:07 (eleven years ago) link

Ah, thanks for the info. It doesn't look like either has done any solo releases either.

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 07:35 (eleven years ago) link

13. Underworld - Dubnobasswithmyheadman (Junior Boy's Own, 1994)
167 points, 7 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/dubnobasswithmyheadman.jpg

Classic for sure. I ignored it for a few years as people were telling me how great it was and then was smitten around 96 and it struck me as sounding kinda old fashioned too, an almost 80's synth pop influence. I dug it out recently and it still sounds great.

― Winkelmann, 28. elokuuta 2002 12:19

dubnobasswithmyheadman eliminated the barriers between dance's escapism and modern life. it is the Velvet Underground & Nico of dance - a little clumsy, dated, known better for 2 or 3 songs - nonetheless forcing dance kids to listen to their own music with new ears and rock fans to revamp their notions of how popular music can be "soundtrack of life."

dubno is Bernard Summer discovering Fool's Gold on a 4/4 skyscraper in a city of balkanized thoughts. so classic Christ was on crutches.

― slippyepic, 29. elokuuta 2002 17:54

I don't understand all those comments above about it sounding a bit dated!!!! Er, how can I put this, it's a decade old dance music album, of course it's going to sound dated!!!!! And as for that "Awful, soulless, funk-free British knotted-hankie-on-yer-head techno shitness", that's a bit like saying The Eagles would have been decent if they shaved their beards off and didn't play guitars ie it's kind of missing the point in a massive way!!!! At the time most of the decent techno was soul-less, funk-free British knotted-hankie-on-yer-head, (or alternatively soul-less, funk-free and from Johnny Foreigner in Euroland!!!!!) and that's why it was bloody ace!!!! If you wanted "funky" and "soulful", you could go for progessive house, "garage", retreads of late-80s Detroit, "ambient dub" and millions of other dreary bollox that have dated so badly that they make "Dubnobass..." sounds like it was recorded in the year 3759!!!! (And before anyone mentions jungle, let remind you that at the time of the release "Dubnobass..." it was still underground and generally regarded as an extreme 'like gabber with breakbeats' offspring of hardcore rave- at least it was before some berks let go of their "progessive" records for long enough to put "jazz" chords over the beats, although the end results was usually about as "jazzy" as Val Doonican!!!!!)

― Old Fart!!! (oldfart_sd), 7. tammikuuta 2004 12:16

Wasn't Underworlds Dubnobass etc over 55 minutes. For me that constantly evolved and never once felt like a filler track plugging a musical gap anywhere on it

― Sonicred, 3. joulukuuta 2001 3:00

i mean the thing about underworld in general, and dubnobass in particular, is that you're guaranteed a few shit tracks per album. but when they're good, they're really, really good. and you can't knock cowgirl, or skyscraper. dark, moody, euphoric, utterly fucked lyrics. and superb production.

propellorheads? generic, going-through-the-motions big beat. dull at the time and they haven't dated well.

― drasticman, 13. tammikuuta 2006 18:57

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 08:01 (eleven years ago) link

Holy hell this Paperclip People album is amazing. Why did no one tell me about this before?

calumerio, Friday, 2 November 2012 08:48 (eleven years ago) link

12. Underworld - Beaucoup Fish (Junior Boy's Own, 1999)
168 points, 7 votes, 1 first place vote.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/beaucoupfish.jpg

I think one of the things that draws me back to Beaucoup Fish most frequently of all the Underworld albums is that it's really such an unusual proposition. I love Dubnobass... to death and totally understand why it's the favourite of many listeners, but I think if you described Underworld to someone who hadn't heard them before but knew dance music, they would imagine Dubnobass... and be spot on! Of all their albums it most closely lives up to the idea of Underworld as being Massive Attack with the hip hop basis replaced by dance music. Second Toughest... is a more inscrutable and enigmatic album (and the proper ballad moments are their best ever in that vein) but again it follows in the same general vein apart from some surface level stylistic modification (the occasional breakbeat etc.).

Whereas Beacoup Fish I think really plays around with one's assumption as to what Underworld are by just being so brutally uncompromising and tracky so frequently, and because Karl is so often very aggressive. Like, I find the first four tracks to be a totally emotional suite, but not emotional in the sense that the group inject "rock" emotion into a dance setting - the ebb and flow of intensity is much closer to a DJ set. And I perversely enjoy the fact that the slower tracks are just really odd and unwelcoming - it's like the group want to avoid people finding any sort of "relief" in them. Instead, the slow tracks are the uncomfortably, unsettling moments and the hard-edged tracks are the heart and soul of the album.

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), 13. marraskuuta 2004 6:08

All this talk of the new Underworld single led me to look for it on WinMX (NO JOY). What I ended up with instead was track 8 from _Beaucoup Fish_, a track I find to be stunning, surreal, ominous, uplifting, oppressive and all-around fucking marvelous. I would even go as far as saying that it's far and away the best thing Underworld has ever recorded, narrowly beating out "Pearl's Girl", "Dirty Epic", "MMM Skyscraper I Love You" and "Tongue". That lovely bliss-out part at 4:25 that just drones and swirls on for a minute is truly breath-taking, making a perfect counterpoint to the dirty drum cadence at the beginning of the song.

Why wasn't this a single instead of "Bruce Lee" (aka "That Fucking Embarrassing Song Which Is The Only Thing Keeping Me From Buying _Beaucoup Fish_")?

― Dan Perry, 17. kesäkuuta 2002 3:00

Second Toughest is sooo much worse than Beaucoup Fish it's ridiculous. I phoned Derrick May and he agreed.

― RickyT (RickyT), 1. marraskuuta 2004 1:54

I agree with everyone who's said Beaucoup Fish is Underworld's best album. Those HUGE lush chords in jumbo! And that syncopated synth riff in the closing minuts of Cups! Amazing. And many other bits too.

― JimD (JimD), 2. marraskuuta 2004 15:19

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 09:34 (eleven years ago) link

So yeah, Beaucoup Fish beat Dubnobass... by just one point.

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 09:35 (eleven years ago) link

lots of vote splitting it feels like? How many people voted in this? I'd have thought it would be insanely popular given this board's demographic.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 2 November 2012 09:36 (eleven years ago) link

All in all about 40 people voted in the poll, but I think only 25-30 of them voted for albums, the rest were tracks-only ballots.

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 09:40 (eleven years ago) link

No no no.

Dubno > STITI > BF

groovypanda, Friday, 2 November 2012 09:41 (eleven years ago) link

No Orbital or Daft Punk yet either

groovypanda, Friday, 2 November 2012 09:42 (eleven years ago) link

The Underworld albums are the right way round I think. Never liked Second Toughest but Beaucoup Fish is by far their best. It sags in the middle a bit but those first four tracks are just wow.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 November 2012 09:52 (eleven years ago) link

no way. how is BF higher than the other 2? Crazy!

Algerian Goalkeeper, Friday, 2 November 2012 09:58 (eleven years ago) link

11. LFO - Frequencies (Warp Records, 1991)
169 points, 8 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/frequencies.jpg

Why is it after all this time I still think this is the best "Techno" record ever? I just can not find fault in anything about it. I have listened to electronic based music for years here as well so I am not some naive kid... DM/Kraftwerk/Soft Cell/HL/etc... to Juan Atkins/Derrick May/Armando etc... to Hawtin/Beltram/Tresor/R&S etc... now onto (too many to list) I just think that after 14 years of listening to this record and still thinking it is a masterpiece deserves some mention. It was hard for me to say this as I love sooooo much from this time period... but this one still throws one up me.

― benoit, 6. toukokuuta 2005 15:26

One of my all-time favorites. Completely sublime and still offering rewards each time I listen to it.

― chris breitenbach (Chris808), 6. toukokuuta 2005 18:55

Frequencies = still dope beyond all reason

― Music should never have changed anymore after my mid 80s (Noodle Vague), 15. lokakuuta 2009 11:37

"Frequencies" is probably my favourite warp album ever. The 5 track - We are back/Tan ta ha/you have to understand/el ef oh/ love is the message - sequence of the album makes me almost explode with joy. The sounds are so basic; the result is so rich. Gorgeous.

― jed_ (jed), 4. syyskuuta 2004 4:01

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:15 (eleven years ago) link

I have to take a break from posting now, but I'll try to post the final results later today.

Go on with the top 10 speculation then, you know you wanna!

Tuomas, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:17 (eleven years ago) link

More Aphex, the two Boards albums, a couple from Orbital, Photek and Incunabula of course ;)

millmeister, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:19 (eleven years ago) link

I'm surprised Jilted Generation ranked so low. Overexposure maybe?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 2 November 2012 10:20 (eleven years ago) link

Frequencies is just amazing. I saw Mark Bell play live as LFO last year and the set was still largely drawn from that album and he took the room and shook it.

Matt DC, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:23 (eleven years ago) link

Do people actually listen to Jilted Generation that much? I haven't touched it in years.

millmeister, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:24 (eleven years ago) link

Does anyone listen to anything on this list that much any more? I don't exactly dig out Jilted on a regular basis, but it was massively important to me throughout the nineties - got played pretty much any social occasion because of its wide appeal.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 2 November 2012 10:32 (eleven years ago) link

10. Super Discount
9. The White Rooms
8. Selected Ambient Works II
7. Endtroducing
6. In Sides
5. Music Has The Right To Children
4. Orbital II - The Brown Album
3. Homework
2. Selected Ambient Works 88-92
1. Bentley Rhythm Ace - Bentley Rhythm Ace

Matt DC, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link

Played Jilted to death the year it came out and occasionally for the next couple of years. Honestly don't think I've listened to it once in the last 10.

Dubno still gets a couple of airings a year.

groovypanda, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link

I listened to the whole of Exit Planet Dust yesterday. If anything it's improved with age (for me at least) totally thrilling, and you can really hear the Dust Brothers influence in there which I never noticed the first time round.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 2 November 2012 10:33 (eleven years ago) link

I've never heard Super Discount! Christ on crutches, there's so many records on this list I always thought I'd get round to checking out and never got to.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Friday, 2 November 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

I've actually been listening to Super Discount again the last couple of weeks. Great record and much better than Super Discount 2.

groovypanda, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:35 (eleven years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4biQDLz_uwI

groovypanda, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:36 (eleven years ago) link

1. Bentley Rhythm Ace - Bentley Rhythm Ace

― Matt DC,

ouch!

millmeister, Friday, 2 November 2012 10:39 (eleven years ago) link


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