POSSE! YOU KEEP THE SPIRIT ALIVE! It's the 1990s ELECTRONIC ALBUMS poll results!

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I don't dislike Autechre but the number of amazing albums that will not make the cut because every fucking 90s autechre album will be on here is pretty ridic.

Tim F, Thursday, 1 November 2012 10:54 (eleven years ago) link

There are 22 albums to go...

Mark G, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:11 (eleven years ago) link

While it's quiet..

I did get Squarepusher's "Feed me weird things" album as a 'freebie' back whenever (it was old by then too), didn't get it at all.

Anyone know if it's supposed to be a 'wow' album or not? etc?

Mark G, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:13 (eleven years ago) link

There are no 'wow' Squarepusher albums. 'Hard Normal Daddy' is probably the best but none of them belong anywhere near this list.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:14 (eleven years ago) link

that's a bit harsh, I think. He can be a bit free jazz noodly, but Hard Normal Daddy is p great. Vic Acid EP is the single best thing he did though, IMO.

Neil S, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:16 (eleven years ago) link

Fair enough, thanks.

Mark G, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:21 (eleven years ago) link

At his best he's pretty good but not 'best of the 90s' good (and he won't be in the list given that things like 'Bytes' and 'The Richard D James' album have already placed).

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:24 (eleven years ago) link

Hard Normal Daddy was joint 50th, but yeah, he won't place again I shouldn't think. He's also very good live.

Neil S, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:27 (eleven years ago) link

While it's quiet..

I did get Squarepusher's "Feed me weird things" album as a 'freebie' back whenever (it was old by then too), didn't get it at all.

Anyone know if it's supposed to be a 'wow' album or not? etc?

― Mark G, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:13 (12 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

There are no 'wow' Squarepusher albums. 'Hard Normal Daddy' is probably the best but none of them belong anywhere near this list.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:14 (10 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

He is a real hit'n'miss artist and I agree there's no such thing as a consistently brilliant Squarepusher album (and yeah, HND is the closest he ever came to one). That said, there's probably only one or two SP releases that I'd say have no redeemable features, it's just he eschews quality control for prolificism. I'd happily compile a career-spanning best-of. 'Feed Me Weird' things is like a lesser HND basically.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:28 (eleven years ago) link

Squarepusher, 21 tracks 1996-present

Theme From Ernest Borgnine
Cooper's World
Chin Hippy
Fat Controller
A Journey to Reedham (7.am Mix)
Full Rinse (featuring MC Twin Tub)
Come On My Selector
My Sound
Ruin
Shin Triad
Iambic 5 Poetry
Tomorrow World
Mind Rubbers
My Red Hot Car
Do You Know Squarepusher
Menelec
Welcome to Europe
The Modern Bass Guitar
Open Society
Square Window
Unreal Square

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:36 (eleven years ago) link

I'd guess that most of the Warp is out of the way now, except Incunabula, Frequencies, Music Has The Right To Children and the Aphex Twin records? I mean the shadow cast by Warp over 90s albums-based electronic music is massive but there's a shitload of other stuff I want to see place more.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:39 (eleven years ago) link

Well, I fully expect a few Underworld albums to place yet.

Mark G, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:41 (eleven years ago) link

and orbital of course ..

mark e, Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:45 (eleven years ago) link

I don't expect Incunabula to place somehow.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 11:47 (eleven years ago) link

If Incunabula places it would be absurd. (I think I only listened to it once or twice, but it seemed like easily the weakest Autechre album.)

toby, Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:03 (eleven years ago) link

Yeah it's not really considered a classic by anyone other than early-Warp/AI fans.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link

What about Mo'Wax? Will anything place from that?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:05 (eleven years ago) link

What about Mo'Wax? Will anything place from that?

― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, November 1, 2012 12:05 PM

Entroducing maybe? Or is that too hip-hop and not electronic enough?

groovypanda, Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:13 (eleven years ago) link

Incunabula is one of their best and should place Top 10.

millmeister, Thursday, 1 November 2012 12:54 (eleven years ago) link

I wouldn't think it's as popular here. Incunabula is a great training wheels Autechre album and it has held up better than I thought it would but I wouldn't put it ahead of their other 90's albums (besides maybe Chiastic Slide?)

Guessing dubnobass/Second Toughest/Beacoup Fish all put up a strong showing here? Good job ILX

frogbs, Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:42 (eleven years ago) link

I think it's a shame to dismiss Incunabula because its sound design is less sophisticated than some of their later albums. Anyway, I'm a complete sucker for pretty much all early-to-mid 90's Warp back catalogue. No sign of the Boards yet. No doubt they'll have at least one entry in the Top 10 ('Music for Children' I'm hoping...)

millmeister, Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

one of the most redeeming features of ILX (in my opinion) is that they don't rank BoC very highly

then again, who am I kidding :(

frogbs, Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:54 (eleven years ago) link

One think that struck me while compiling the results for the album poll was how utterly Brit-centric they were. I guess American producers didn't release a lot of albums in the 90s, and as for albums from other major electronic music countries (Germany, Belgium, Netherlands, Japan, etc), it seems ILXors don't much care or know about them.

― Tuomas

This is an interesting point. Hawtin, Derrick Carter (both dj mixes) and Kenny Larkin were about the only non-Brits on my list which is crazy really (stupidly forgot the Paperclip People album...doh!) Were there no Detroit albums of note during this period?? Would be nice to see Nightime World Vol 1 get a place.

millmeister, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:00 (eleven years ago) link

No Seefeel?

with hidden noise, Thursday, 1 November 2012 14:53 (eleven years ago) link

I have my own list of excellent Japanese albums for this but it seems a little self-defeating to vote for them knowing that no one else knows of them

frogbs, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:05 (eleven years ago) link

you could start a thread?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:09 (eleven years ago) link

I'd love to see some Seefeel place. I agree that Autechre is a little overrepresented here and a little overpraised in general. I'm sad that Dettinger's Intershop wasn't even nominated (though it's my own damn fault for totally missing the leadup to this poll). Does anybody else know that record? Some of the most elegant, gorgeous "ambient techno" (and some just straight-up ambient) ever made, IMHO. Very much in the vein of Las Vegas by Burger/Ink in spots. I'd be floored if Hong Kong and Biokinetics weren't in the top ten.

Clarke B., Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

I could never get into Squarepusher, not even a little.

Clarke B., Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:14 (eleven years ago) link

I'd also like to see Consumed by Plastikman.

Clarke B., Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:16 (eleven years ago) link

And Every Man and Woman is a Star by Ultramarine.

Clarke B., Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

(Ha, sorry, I know this is annoying; I'm just bummed I didn't vote!)

Clarke B., Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:18 (eleven years ago) link

you could start a thread?

― make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, November 1, 2012 10:09 AM (8 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I already have!

frogbs, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

linky?

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:19 (eleven years ago) link

Japanese New Wave listening club - new albums every Monday

S/D: Japanese Techno

I only started one of those and a lot of it is outside the 90's but it's not the kind of thing I'd bother voting for here. I kind of subconsciously assumed that really only UK-centric albums were going to be represented here. Not that the UK really ISN'T the center of this in the 90's but still.

frogbs, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:29 (eleven years ago) link

22. Aphex Twin - I Care Because You Do (Warp Recors, 1995)
116 points, 6 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/icarebecauseyoudo.jpeg

http://open.spotify.com/album/0VG7XLJ8gSynEQDVnpHNNU

I Care Because You Do is my favorite, because it's got a good balance of pretty, soothing tracks with the noisy/chaotic/
goofball ones.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), 8. joulukuuta 2003 15:22

...I care because you do is the nostalgic choice because i bought it when i was 14 and it was quite an experience to hear it at that age with almost no context at all (it was mentioned ina small sidebar in SPIN).

― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), 9. joulukuuta 2003 1:18

my cats seem to appreciate Dillinger Escape Plan and I Care Because You Do. Meaning they open their eyes for a few seconds to look around and then go back to sleep.

― superultramega (superultramarinated), 9. maaliskuuta 2004 3:35

So there didn't seem to be an "IDM" thing till about 1995/6 when albums like I Care Because You Do and Tri Repetae came out - before that it was probably just seen as another brand of ambient of techno or whatnot.

And even by this point, it was about playing with dance's parameters. I used to love ICBYD because it was like a collection of speculative short stories with a twist in the tale - the best IDM stuff for me worked like a collection of "What ifs?" - "What if I make a techno tune that sounds like an asthma attack?" "What if I change the time signature?" "What if I slow it right down?" "What if I make it sound like Bjork" "What if I make a whole album out of a bird cage" etc.

― Post-Manpat Music (dog latin), 1. elokuuta 2011 18:25

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:31 (eleven years ago) link

i often feel like there was a general focal shift, not just in electronic music but in pop music as a whole, from the UK to Europe and the US come the end of the 90s.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:33 (eleven years ago) link

If you were living in the UK maybe, not in the rest of the world.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:34 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't vote because I only signed up to this site last week I think. If I had I would have gone for 'Neptune's Lair' by Drexciya

Drrexciya>>>>>

paolo, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:35 (eleven years ago) link

When it comes to techno, it seems German techno didn't get popular in the UK and USA before the turn of the millennium...? I was listening to a lot of German electronic music in the 90s, and it was pretty popular here in Finland (people like Westbam or Sven Väth were in the top 10 on Finnish charts), but whenever I try to discuss it on ILX, I get only a handful of comments (and they're usually from non-Anglo posters).

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:39 (eleven years ago) link

If you were living in the UK maybe, not in the rest of the world.

― Matt DC, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:34 (1 minute ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

Sure, sure. I probably didn't explain myself that well TBH, but these days I find myself pleasantly surprised when a producer I like comes from the UK, whereas in the nineties it felt more like the norm, with the UK holding fort with its Prodigys and Orbitals and Underworlds and Chems, and before that the entire M25 acid house scene etc. A lot of European dance felt cheesy and commercial, and the US didn't seem to know what to make of electronic music a lot of the time. I associate dance music in the 2000s as being much more Euro (and to a lesser extent US)-lead.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:41 (eleven years ago) link

(save for things like dubstep/grime of course)

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:43 (eleven years ago) link

No I agree with you in dance music terms, probably not in wider terms.

Matt DC, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:48 (eleven years ago) link

21. Various - Metalheadz presents Platinum Breakz (FFRR, 1996)
118 points, 5 votes.

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/platinumbreakz.jpeg

what does this cd sound like today? i would assume horribly dated?

― cutty (mcutt), 25. helmikuuta 2004 21:27

"rider's ghost", innit and no, it sounds remarkably un-dated, really.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), 25. helmikuuta 2004 21:27

Rufige Kru's VIP Rider's Ghost opens the set. And in no way is this dated. Sounds superwow, to my ears.

Lemon D's In My Life is simultaneously tender and brutal.

― paul c (paul c), 25. helmikuuta 2004 21:32

well now

i had wanted at first to vote for "unofficial ghost", which might now be my favorite drum and bass track of all time. repeated listening to "unofficial ghost" in 1996 turned me on to the mind-warping possibilities of techstep. i love how doc chops the hell out of the synth swells, so that they just keep billowing out eternally into space. the finer doc chops the synths the more they fill the room, like chopping a little strip of paper into a chain of dolls. having perked our ears, he teases us with all sorts of sound effects occupying different little corners of sound: method man sounds like he's speaking from deep in a tomb, then the sample is suddenly drenched in echo so we're in the tomb with method man. at the same time the establishing beat: a rigid stepper that sounds like the exhausted breakbeats that idm-leaning techno dudes were pushing at the time (subhead, landstrumm, swordsmen, beltram).

all this time we're sitting still while he's setting up the soundstage. out of nowhere, he hits us with a flat, thick wall of impossibly dense, warped bass. this bass fucks with you on two levels. first of all it's smeared so thickly over those rigid, static breakbeats that it really challenges your perception of time. second of all it's right up in the mix, sort of dry compared to everything else. at this range, it sounds like the bass is coming out of your body, pushing you along to the beat. now that you're moving he switches up the beat, alternating between an impossibly "hot"-sounding sample and a more traditional sounding amen break. the "hot" cymbal and snare hits sound impossibly cramped against the rest of the sound; alternating with the reverb-y amen sets up areas of pressure and release. for a while he plays with cramming the hot sample into the same space as two or three simultaneous bass bombs, then he alternates that by setting the amen break against the ghost of a rave siren.

for awhile these two (three?) strategies rub up against each other. then the bass drops out and it's just those rushy noises, like rave sirens from mount olympus, up against the dubby amen break, which is given a little more space to breathe, and it's like racing out of hot, dark tunnels and onto vast and starlit peaks.

it's a masterful track.

― moonship journey to baja, 10. elokuuta 2010 5:40

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:55 (eleven years ago) link

it's ridiculous that i've never heard these big nineties d'n'b albums. i should correct that.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 15:58 (eleven years ago) link

20. The Prodigy - Experience
127 points, 6 votes.

http://open.spotify.com/album/3LYrQ4Pr2CMbQl3nWxXItR

Jilted was their vertical album - stately rhythms to show off their sound effects (and Liam's pretty haircut). This one was their horizontal album - furious forward motion with only tangential consideration for what's up top. But since the songs and the album are shorter, they wind (it) up highlighting what's up top as well anyway. Hence this one's my favorite.

― Kevin John Bozelka, 4. huhtikuuta 2009 20:54

The big criticism with original 'Experience' remains that it doesn't feature the versions of the singles bar 'Out Of Space' but I do love the album versions and it all still sounds good today.

― Sororah T Massacre (blueski), 4. tammikuuta 2006 18:11

The fact that the hits from 'Experience' still get young kids on the floor at the club pretty much sums Howlett's skills up for me.

― Alacrán, 18. lokakuuta 2001 3:00

They were playing early Prodge in Fopp this lunchtime. GOD it sounded great. GOD did I ever drop the ball in the early 1990s, what with my stuck-up soulboy snobbery and my Galliano singles.

― mike t-diva (mike t-diva), 18. lokakuuta 2005 15:26

I prefer Experience to Jilted - the latter is more well-constructed and purposeful, but nothing beats the seratonin rush of the early tunes.

― chap, 11. heinäkuuta 2008 18:19

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link

Whoops, the cover image is missing, here it is:

http://i1326.photobucket.com/albums/u641/Lixenixen/experience.jpeg

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link

Also, the album was relesed by XL Recordings in 1992.

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:13 (eleven years ago) link

Enjoying the Finnish months in the c&ped comments.

I wish to incorporate disco into my small business (chap), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

Experience is the first album I remember really, really loving as a young teenager. (Before that I mostly just listened to multi artist comps.) Me and my friends used to just play it again and again, day after day. I was really envious of a friend who had it on CD; I didn't even get a CD player until two years later in 1994, so I had to listen to the album from a cassette I'd copied from him.

Tuomas, Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:16 (eleven years ago) link

I received Experience for Christmas when I was 11. I remember being incredibly disappointed it didn't feature the single versions, but I warmed to it and they remained my favourite band for years.

make like a steak and beef (dog latin), Thursday, 1 November 2012 16:20 (eleven years ago) link


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