Black Acid Rock - S/D

Shakey is probably referring to Mr. Wonka's screwed and chopped remix of "Rollin" featuring Cowboy Troy, and if so, of course he does have a point. Mr. Wonka's other stuff might fit here as well, actually:

http://www.villagevoice.com/issues/0415/eddy.php

dickvandyke's post is very funny as well!!

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as for this pete cosey connection=black acid rock, that's ridiculous. just cos its by a black artist and weird, does not mean its black acid rock.

Black metal and black punk are not always psychedelic (and even less often funky, as was requested at this thread's ouset), but if you're gonna include that, this list could get REALLY long. I think the band Don is thinking of is God Forbid, who kinda suck. As do that Brooklyn band, Candiria or however you spell it. Xavion were kinda cool though. (Also, um, as anybody mentioned Prince yet? He had moments.)

I totally agree, but in Cosey's case he *did* play on "Electric Mud", and that record is cited by JasonD up top as an example of what he's lookin for sooooo... (plus Cosey's work with Miles does bear some similarity to early Funkadelic. There's a track on "On the Corner" that even bites the riff from "Super Stupid")

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as far as prince's acid rock moments: the cross perhaps?

has anyone mentioned the stand album by sly stone yet? or buddy miles? or chamber brothers (the song time, specifically)?

"And how is calling Mr. Wonka black acid rock "nonsense," Shakey?? "

I was referring more to the fact that you can't go five minutes on a thread without posting a link to yr magazine. that kind of nonsense. (I've never heard the Mr. Wonka track in question, and based on your tastes, I probably don't want to).

early ike turner/ike and tina turner belongs in this thread too.

... or mentioning your book, evidently.

Weird - My "tastes" include lots of stuff you say you like on this thread, Shakey. And how merely mentioning Mr. Wonka would tell people more than linking to somewhere where I talk about what he sounds like is beyond me. And your pointless Big and Rich namedrop deserved a response. But to each his own.

(I mentioned Mother's Finest upthread to, btw.)

Shakey: Dickvandyke mentioned my book first; I answered him. Jeez.

yeah, but your tastes also include lots of shit I wouldn't touch with a ten-foot pole. And I think so far the only thing I really professed a liking for on this thread is Prince (tho you might deduce that I am indeed a fan of Funkadelic/Miles Davis/Electric Mud)

Thanks for the mention of those, well try to check them out. Algiers' debut is a ghost train express in a
soul mine (or "post-gospel", as some say); The Underside of Power takes it to a scary-sublime roller coaster.

Both are bad trip good trip bad trip good and continuing.

So has n obody picked up taht latest Vernon Joynson book. Thought at least somebody here might have.
Were dow's comments intended to be on this thread?

Yep. Also digging Araminta by Harriet Tubman: veteran jazz-rock-etc. power trio x trumpet of Wadada Leo Smith, who's more consistently aggressive (or less passive-agressive) than electric Miles, though some of it might be descended from Jack Johnson and/or something else involving Sonny Sharrock, though no keyboards or any instruments beyond those of trio and intermittent guest---they got pedals etc., no need for more. Not sure about some of the fades yet, but some killer tracks like "Nina Simone", with sonic knives all around, as in her dreams (just because you're paranoid doesn't mean someone isn't out to get you). Also they could be part of her armory; she could get pretty militant on concert tapes.
Some other tracks here: http://sunnysidezone.com/album/araminta

Somebody torrented one of teh Harriet Tubman lps a couple of months back. I hadn't come across them before that.

But at the moment I really want to find out about that book before spending €40+ on it.

Burnt Sugar The Arkestra Chamber's All You Zombies Dig The Luminosity incl. elements of jazz and hip hop/use of tape effects (in fact the whole thing might be tape, sound quality/ambience/timbre etc not quite the bandcamp usual)m but def black acid rock, in fact it pertains to The Electric Kool=Aid Acid Test's distinction between Leary & co.'s set and setting (preparing mind and its surroundings for thee trip) vs. Merry Pranksters' WHEE HONK HONK HAPPY BIRTHDAY LET'S GO LET GO UH-OH, complete with untrained honking ect. because no matter how carefully you groom, you don't know what's around the next turn, and being a control freak can make it worse---or that's the idea anyway.
Not quite the same here, because, as a prodigal Prankster eventually observes on the book, Kesey and his favorites could be like high school golden boys etc,, and this album conveys more of a sense of something precarious, something at stake on both sides. The punk stakes a claim to "My Black Uncertainty", gets equally powerful push-back from "Throw Some Light", cosmic ballads meet guitar skidmarks upside the heart and "Quoth The Raven" and two versions of "Are U Insane?" Not a rhetorical question. Also, what's with put-downs of gentrification if you're from the projects or just can't take upward mobility or even running place for granted anymore, no matter where you're from. Or is that just bullshit rationalization, also(that one gets pushback in the same song). Anyway, science friction etc(zombies can be strength in numbers btw, or that's a suggestion here):
https://burntsugarthearkestrachamber.bandcamp.com/album/all-you-zombies-dig-the-luminosity

"prodigal Prankster observes in the book," I meant. Think it's Sandy who leaves and comes back and sees things this way now, the jocks and the cheerleaders and the geeks and so on (and if you ever catch any of the Pranksters' posted home movies, when they're playing on the beach and cavorting on the bus and so on, can seem just like his take).

Not that they didn't take things pretty far.

(that one gets pushback in the same song): maybe not in the words, not all of which I've caught, but the sound, the very electric instrumental activity vs. quiet voice.

If this link doesn't work, search YouTube for: DEATH--Live in Paris!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DPGADAkT3I

dig this: Various – Function Underground: The Black And Brown American Rock Sound 1969-1974. it's on spotify!

stumbled across it while making a lil playlist for myself via "maggot brain" thread.

Thank you, budo jeru!!!