big homie sold 69k this week
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:31 (eleven years ago) link
I also believe there must be another and more interesting way of framing this "r&b has gone eurotrash on us, wave goodbye" narrative that's circulating a lot right now. Just not sure what it is.
It's probably way to early to posit this wishful theory, but I'm beginning to wonder if the eurotrash R&B trend is on its way out. Chris Brown saw less return on his latest round of dance singles than his last round, and it's telling that Usher's "Climax" outperformed "Scream," which didn't do as well on the pop charts as Usher's previous dance singles either. (Chris Brown in particular got a lot less urban radio play for his new album than he did with his last one, so he saw diminished returns across two formats). Meanwhile, Trey Songz has had a nice singles run appealing primarily to urban formats, and Ne-Yo seems to be slowly but surely returning back to reality. I wouldn't be surprised to see all these artists trend a bit more urban and a bit less pop on their next records. But again, could be wishful thinking.
― Evan R, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:34 (eleven years ago) link
well, a year ago Ne-Yo was saying his next album would have no dance pop, now he's saying that's 50% of the album. and also the pop single's doing better than the urban single.
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:44 (eleven years ago) link
I've definitely noticed EDM-pop in general getting a bit less dominant. Nothing in the style has hit #1 since January.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:48 (eleven years ago) link
xp Ah, didn't know Ne-Yo said it'd be 50/50. Most of the advance tracks I've heard from R.E.D. have been better than expected and decidedly urban-leaning, so I was hoping "Let Me Love You" was just a "Beautiful Monster"-ish outlier. But Tim McGraw is on the album so who the hell knows; it could be a Nelly record
― Evan R, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
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I'll take it.
― Gelados n cream (longneck), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:52 (eleven years ago) link
the Ne-Yo track on McGraw's own album is...interesting. He plays Faith Hill for all intents and purposes.
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 21:54 (eleven years ago) link
i'm sort of excited about that song not even in a train wreck way because the one with nelly is so fucking good
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:00 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i'm curious about it for the same reason i mostly don't mind Ne-Yo's pop stuff -- he has such a clean, adaptable vocal style that he can go outside R&B without as much inherent strain as most of his contemporaries.
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:11 (eleven years ago) link
on the McGraw album he's clearly exploiting memories of Lionel Richie-Kenny Rogers collabbs
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:15 (eleven years ago) link
didn't he write some songs for Lionel?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:16 (eleven years ago) link
and Akon!
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:17 (eleven years ago) link
as in, Akon and Stargate were on that album (2008 or 2009?)
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:18 (eleven years ago) link
yeah Ne-Yo is definitely cut from an MJ/Lionel Richie/Babyface type cloth where leaning pop seems to come so natural that holding him to an R&B purism standard feels pointless
― some dude, Tuesday, 9 October 2012 22:24 (eleven years ago) link
fantastic as ever on letterman
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 05:09 (eleven years ago) link
yup. keeps tweaking the arrangement, too.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 07:44 (eleven years ago) link
one thing I've noticed that kind of sux tho, afaict he's never performed "Arch and Point" live?
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 07:45 (eleven years ago) link
miguel looks like he finished practicing his dance moves 5 minutes before he took stage
― barthes simpson, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 12:04 (eleven years ago) link
Great performance. Makes me want to go see him again live. Thursday night he's at that Morgan State Homecoming show in Baltimore that Some Dude mentioned: 2 Chainz, Miguel and Elle Varner
Why is the deluxe version of KD with "Gravity" and "All" added, $28.99 from Amazon US? Actually they're calling it "limited edition" so I guess that explains it.
― curmudgeon, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 14:32 (eleven years ago) link
it will only cost 29 dollars for a limited time
― la goonies (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 15:36 (eleven years ago) link
what song did he do - adorn?
yep
http://pitchfork.com/news/48163-watch-miguel-on-letterman/
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 10 October 2012 15:40 (eleven years ago) link
Love the chain.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Wednesday, 10 October 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link
I like 'Use Me' but it seems kinda out of place on the album to me. Like a Depeche Mode cover slapped bang in the middle of an r n b album.
― pandemic, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:22 (eleven years ago) link
i don't think of "Use Me" as being an outlier in that way at all! if anything "Don't Look Back" sticks out more as not very R&B.
the D.C. grown folks R&B station, which usually only plays the occasional new joint by Maxwell or whoever amongst 70s and 80s stuff, has picked up on "Adorn"
― some dude, Thursday, 11 October 2012 16:35 (eleven years ago) link
Funny how "Adorn" actually makes more sense on grown-folks R&B formats
― Evan R, Thursday, 11 October 2012 17:51 (eleven years ago) link
I'm actually starting to think I might like 'Use Me' more than 'Adorn'
― skeevy wonder (Drugs A. Money), Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:36 (eleven years ago) link
I do.
― Spottie_Ottie_Dope, Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:37 (eleven years ago) link
me too
― lex pretend, Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:38 (eleven years ago) link
At least a third of the album is as much stadium rock as r&b and Use Me is especially so, but it doesn't seem particularly out of place.
I'll never be able to hear another bit of Coldplay style anthemic falsetto bluster without imagining how much better Miguel would be able to make it sound though.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 October 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
When he goes for "stadium rock", he goes for stadium rock in the Purple Rain sense tho, tightly wrapped up in r&b. It's not like he's trying to be Coldplay or their ilk.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
he makes stadium rock feel really intimate
― lex pretend, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:17 (eleven years ago) link
like, just you & him in a massive stadium
ha otm!
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
When he goes for "stadium rock", he goes for stadium rock in the Purple Rain sense tho, tightly wrapped up in r&b
Oh yeah totally. The Coldplay thing was more of an aside really, like it suddenly occurred to me that Miguel would probably be the single artist most likely to take some drippy Coldplay type stadium ballad and make it amazing.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:38 (eleven years ago) link
― lex pretend, Thursday, October 11, 2012
omg
― the ones that I'm near most: fellow outcasts and ilxors (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 October 2012 19:40 (eleven years ago) link
Purple Rain was Prince's attempt at writing a Bob Seger song.
true story
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 11 October 2012 20:27 (eleven years ago) link
i ain't judgin, if you do decide that you might be fuckin tonightmore power to you if you do decide that you might be fuckin tonight
^ this lyric is kinda radical
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 16 October 2012 04:31 (eleven years ago) link
+ rap/r&b station here is finally playing "Adorn" in regular rotation
- it's the Wiz remix :(
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Friday, 19 October 2012 23:52 (eleven years ago) link
wtf is wrong with the west coast man
― some dude, Saturday, 20 October 2012 00:31 (eleven years ago) link
not as many black folk as points farther east, is what it boils down to basically
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 01:40 (eleven years ago) link
i guess maybe! what's the station called?
― some dude, Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:05 (eleven years ago) link
kube 93
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:35 (eleven years ago) link
rube 93
― racewar driver (k3vin k.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
lol
You do have to consider tho, that black people here aren't the largest group, or even the second biggest group, but the *FOURTH*, so if you have a station that only appeals to black listeners, it's not going to be successful. This wasn't a problem when rap & r&b were at the center of the pop consciousness, but now unfortunately your average white listener isn't interested in hearing a straight-up r&b song like "Adorn" and it's a victory that they're playing it at all. This is the first Miguel song they've picked up on, whereas Wiz has been a familiar presence on the station for the past couple years. I think they even gave "Say Yeah" some spins when it came out.
And it's like...Kube's top-40 sister station (also owned by Clear Channel) has gotten so whitewashed that literally their most-played song by a black artist right now ("Pound The Alarm") is number twenty-fucking-five on their playlist. So they've pretty much ceded the territory of even straight-up pop by black artists to Kube 93. Shit is depressing.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 08:48 (eleven years ago) link
come to the east coast
― 乒乓, Saturday, 20 October 2012 12:49 (eleven years ago) link
east coast can suck my ass thru a straw westside 4 lyfe, fool
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
we have HOT97
― 乒乓, Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
def don't move to the east coast but i would say maybe leave seattle
― lil dirk (J0rdan S.), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
I kind of consider this place home and perhaps quality of radio isn't exactly my number-one determinant of where I choose to live.
― Cap'n Hug-a-Thug (The Reverend), Saturday, 20 October 2012 20:06 (eleven years ago) link