I think this is a POLL of shit while John Sinclair rots in prison: THE WHO RESULTS THREAD (ilm artist poll #25)

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kinks and the who actually i think of as being kinda separate from the world around them. and early on kinda effortlessly inventing shit that people would mimic for years to come.

scott seward, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 13:35 (eleven years ago) link

anyway, this is one of my fave who things. american b-side version. like it better than the album version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU7t9fiZ7IU

scott seward, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 13:40 (eleven years ago) link

Actually, Townshend has gone on record a bunch of times saying he stole the "I Can't Explain" riff from "You Really Got Me" (even though it's not the exact same thing, but still, decent of him to cop to it). And he said something about how he, Beck, and Dave Davies will go to their graves never agreeing on who started using feedback first. So yeah, there was definitely a lot of everyone-stealing-from-everyone. (also, the Eddie Philips/Jimmy Page Guitar Bow Battle)

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

xp Yeah, love that version -- Al Kooper on organ!

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 13:51 (eleven years ago) link

interesting how My Generation didn't suffer the Whole Lotta Love/Hey Jude/Satisfaction syndrome. it will be top 10

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 13:58 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't vote for "My Generation" but I think a saving grace it has over the others you mention is the Live at Leeds version. also the original single is very short

Euler, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:07 (eleven years ago) link

I've been meaning to ask: were/are Medac and Odorono actual real product names or were they made up for that album?

Irwin Dante's Towering Inferno (WmC), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:17 (eleven years ago) link

According to the Who Liner Notes page (highly recommended, btw), Odorono was a real product:
http://www.thewho.net/linernotes/WhoSellOut.htm

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

whoops, trying image again:
http://www.thewho.net/linernotes2/odo-ro-noad.jpg

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 14:20 (eleven years ago) link

10. "Anyway Anyhow Anywhere" (single, 1965) 17 votes, 420 points, two #1 votes
http://www.thewho.net/whotabs/images/equipment/guitar/19680720_va_pt_02.jpg
http://youtu.be/0hYjsOqOYHo

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:11 (eleven years ago) link

NOTHIN GETS IN MY WAY

NOT EVEN LOCKED DOORS

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:12 (eleven years ago) link

this is exciting. some big songs will be left out

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:37 (eleven years ago) link

I was listening to my old shot-to-hell cassette of The Kids Are Alright in the car the other day and "Anyway Anyhow Anywhere" came on, all warped and degraded sounding, it was just so perfect and I was like "what kind of jackass cuts this from their ballot at the last second to throw a sympathy vote to 'I Need You'?" I'm a dumbass. :(

cwkiii, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:44 (eleven years ago) link

Hey, it was cool to see votes for "I Need You" (you weren't the only one)! That's a great song, and very underrated.

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:46 (eleven years ago) link

I didn't vote for My Generation cuz yeah I'm sick of it. also every time I hear it I remember the anecdote about how Roger adopted the stuttering delivery as a joke on one of the engineers (who had a stutter) which just seems cruel

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:49 (eleven years ago) link

also I figured everyone else would vote for it

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:50 (eleven years ago) link

Fear not!

Another salient aspect of "My Generation" is Daltrey's delivery: an angry and frustrated stutter. Various stories exist as to the reason for this distinct delivery. One is that the song began as a slow "talking" blues number without the stutter (in the 1970s it was sometimes performed as such, but with the stutter, as "My Generation Blues"), but after being inspired by John Lee Hooker's "Stuttering Blues", Townshend reworked the song into its present form. Another reason is that it was suggested to Daltrey that he stutter to sound like a British mod on speed. It is also proposed, albeit less frequently, that the stutter was introduced to give the group a framework for implying an expletive in the lyrics: "Why don't you all fff... fade away!" However, producer Shel Talmy insisted it was simply "one of those happy accidents" that he thought they should keep. Roger Daltrey has also commented that he had not rehearsed the song prior to the recording and he was unable to hear his own voice through the monitors. The stutter came about as he tried to fit the lyrics to the music as best he could, and the band decided it worked well enough to keep. The BBC initially refused to play "My Generation" because it did not want to offend people who stutter, but it reversed its decision after the song became more popular.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:51 (eleven years ago) link

"I Need You" was one of my last cuts. now I feel bad.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Hey, it was cool to see votes for "I Need You" (you weren't the only one)! That's a great song, and very underrated.

Yeah, it's ridiculously underrated; iirc even the Moon bio I have basically dismisses it as a failed attempt at songwriting.

cwkiii, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

Hah I voted for "I Need You" too. "Lord and Jingo are coming down with the wives...."

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:54 (eleven years ago) link

9. "Pictures Of Lily" (single, 1967) 21 votes, 466 points
http://www.whocollection.com/2FloorToms.jpg
http://youtu.be/oCCO5q8eV1w

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 15:57 (eleven years ago) link

KILLER RIFF! French Horn solo!

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

love this song. swooping horn part is so weird

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:00 (eleven years ago) link

Also, i love watching Moon play drums, arms up high, like he's driving a stagecoach.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

That's on fire.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:02 (eleven years ago) link

I'm talking the standard mimed video. I'd never seen this rehearsal footage before! I'm going to have to dl all this Youtube Who stuff later.

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

harmonies! the best! love love love love this so much

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

yeah Tarfumes that rehearsal video is awesome

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:04 (eleven years ago) link

Just checked my ballot again. Looks like the Blue Red and Grey won't place either. Lovely recent version on youtube of Pete singing it to his family.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:28 (eleven years ago) link

Lily is an exemplar of the earlier comment about the who being in their own universe: Smutty lyrics, complex chord changes, sweet harmonies and these incredible sounds on the guitar and French horn.

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:31 (eleven years ago) link

But that's the genius of Lily -- the lyrics aren't smutty. It's just the interpretation of what that picture actually, whether or not Lily is clothed etc that lets you think it's naughty

they lyrics are totally innocent -- I didn't realize til I was much older that it wasn't anythign like the rude song I thought it was when I was a kid

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:45 (eleven years ago) link

Great harmonies on "She's been dead since 1929"

Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

^^^^ my favorite part

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:46 (eleven years ago) link

8. "My Generation" (single, 1965) 19 votes, 474 points, three #1 votes
http://demi.fi/uploads/groupImage/244_who_narrowweb__300x310,0.jpg
http://youtu.be/sTlqm_C8Lv8

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:47 (eleven years ago) link

^ YouTube link is a very long...and groooOOOOOvy version...from 1970. But the beginning...it's...it's like proto-speed metal.

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:49 (eleven years ago) link

But that's the genius of Lily -- the lyrics aren't smutty. It's just the interpretation of what that picture actually, whether or not Lily is clothed etc that lets you think it's naughty

they lyrics are totally innocent -- I didn't realize til I was much older that it wasn't anythign like the rude song I thought it was when I was a kid

― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:45 (4 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

I guess that's true. It's in that English tradition of comic innuendo, like Max Miller

Dr X O'Skeleton, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 16:54 (eleven years ago) link

pretty sure my 4yo has absolutely no awareness of any of the innuendo in Pictures Of Lily, which we were listening to in the car the other day

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:02 (eleven years ago) link

Aw, that's awesome Shakey

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:17 (eleven years ago) link

"Our Generation" by Spitting Image is not on youtube :(

Jeff W, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link

7. "Won't Get Fooled Again" (Who's Next, 1971) 20 votes, 479 points, three #1 votes (451 points studio, 28 points The Kids Are Alright)
http://www.thewho.net/whotabs/images/arp2500.jpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBlVrqp3wzE&feature=share&list=PLE7BEA56CD4E74E83

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:35 (eleven years ago) link

hoped this would be higher than Baba. actually, that's why I voted for it.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

I would call "Won't Get Fooled" undeniable, except that I denied it a place on my ballot. But I like it, or respect it, or whatever the right word is for an admiring awareness of its place in the universe. (Which, really, is how I feel about most of Who's Next.)

something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:39 (eleven years ago) link

my #1

"meet the new boss/same as the old boss" is probably my single favorite classic rock lyric

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:40 (eleven years ago) link

Daltrey's YEAAAAAAAAAAAAH is my favorite thing about that song and I hate CSI Miami for trying to make me associate it with David Caruso

Fking great song

set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:42 (eleven years ago) link

I was so disappointed when I listened close and learned that Daltrey's YEAHHH was double-tracked :(

Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link

(Still an unfuckwithable yell tho)

Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:47 (eleven years ago) link

Townshend in 1987:

It's the dumbest song I've ever written. ...

It was dumb to deny the political role of the individual, the political responsibility of the individual. Burning your draft card is a political act. Throwing your vote away is an apolitical act. And "Won't Get Fooled Again" was an apolitical song. Luckily, most people didn't listen to the verses. ["There's nothing in the street/Looks any different to me/And the slogans are all replaced, by the by. . . . "] They just listened to the catch.

It was an irresponsible song. It was quite clear during that period that rock musicians had the ear of the people. And people were saying to me then, "Pete, you've got to use the Who. You've got to get this message across." It was like Abbie Hoffman said on the stage of Woodstock that John Sinclair was in jail for one lousy joint, and I kicked him off the stage. I deeply regret that. If I was given the opportunity again, I would stop the show. Because I don't think rock & roll is that important. Then I did. The show had to go on.

What made me stop thinking the show had to go on was obviously Cincinnati. It was a terrible lesson to have to learn. For a long time, I couldn't live with that. It was directly responsible for me literally, emotionally falling apart. But it was a valuable lesson for me today, looking back on the political relevance - or irrelevance - of a song like "Won't Get Fooled Again." I greatly regret that it's one of the most powerful songs that I've ever written. The Labour party asked me if they could use it in their election campaign. And I said, "Yeah, but please let me rewrite the verses."

And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:53 (eleven years ago) link

what is this Cincinnati incident referred to there

stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link

This

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1979_The_Who_concert_disaster

Get wolves (DL), Wednesday, 12 September 2012 17:58 (eleven years ago) link


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