Has Pete said anything in any interviews about the radical changes in his guitar soloing in the last 10 years or so? Is he getting lessons or something?
I think his single-string facility really started taking off in 1982. With "Eminence Front" (and Kenney Jones), he was finally able to luxuriate in a backbeat; his solos on that song in '82 were unlike any he'd played previously (and were one of the few highlights of those shows).
More recently, though, he hurt his arm/hand in a bike accident in 1991, and my guess is that he doubled-down on practicing as part of his rehab. That seems to be around when the fast fingerpicking started.
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:16 (eleven years ago) link
Personally, I thought his psychedelic psoloing in the expanded "Sell Out" (especially "Mountain King") a revelation!
― Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:19 (eleven years ago) link
OK. I mentioned lessons because he's doing more GIT/Berklee style stuff in the post-2000 stuff I've seen, some jazz modal playing and whammybar tricks -- but if anyone in rock music could teach himself that at home alone with a book, guitar, and computer, it'd be Pete.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:25 (eleven years ago) link
I don't think all of the changes to his soloing are brilliant, but they're noticeable!
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:26 (eleven years ago) link
Little love for these 2 tracks from me. 5.15 is too forced, though the bridge "inside outside" is nice. Other Quad tracks deserved much better.
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:29 (eleven years ago) link
I certainly hope that wasn't it for Quad!
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
He's said his all-time favorite guitarist is Pat Martino, so I can see why he'd want to gravitate towards that style of playing. I'm not personally a fan of Martino's, but when that style is filtered through Pete, it gets pretty scary.
xp
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:32 (eleven years ago) link
18. "Behind Blue Eyes" (Who's Next, 1971) 11 votes, 261 points, one #1 votehttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/d/dc/The_Who_Behind_Blue_Eyes.jpg/220px-The_Who_Behind_Blue_Eyes.jpghttp://youtu.be/KLMc6J9h3mU(start at 1:45)
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:33 (eleven years ago) link
YouTube link has Daltrey's vocals isolated with Keith's drums. VegemiteGrrl referenced it earlier; it's a fascinating/revelatory insight into Moon's approach.
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:34 (eleven years ago) link
"Eminence Front" is such a massive groove, i remember being so happy whenever it'd come on the radio during the graveyard shift at my old night job
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:46 (eleven years ago) link
x-post: ...and Martino is another guitarist who had to completely re-learn guitar as a grown-up. Wheels within wheels.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
god I love Behind Blue Eyes.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:48 (eleven years ago) link
if you didn't like or know the Who you might go, "oh wow this is a cool Peter Gabriel song"
never bothered to listen to it before and uh yeah my first thought was "hey this is a peter Gabriel song!"
― stop swearing and start windmilling (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:49 (eleven years ago) link
thanks for posting that link Tarfumes -- I've been looking everywhere trying to find it!!
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:52 (eleven years ago) link
I never heard "Eminence Front" on the radio till a coupla years after the fact...the single from It's Hard was "Athena". That was all my local AM stations played.
― Faster than food (Myonga Vön Bontee), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:55 (eleven years ago) link
i only heard "Athena" for the first time while putting my ballot together for this! it's pretty good
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:56 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, EF stuck around for the "classic rock" canon, even though "Athena" was a much bigger hit (#28 to EF's #68).
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:57 (eleven years ago) link
xp to VG -- you're welcome! It's such a great moment in that doc.
Eminence Front was all over MTV back in the day
― kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 17:59 (eleven years ago) link
regret not voting Behind Blue Eyes. the "when my fist clenches..." part is all time
― gospodin simmel, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:07 (eleven years ago) link
unrelated - whenever I see interviews with Daltrey and Ox and Pete I'm always struck by how much genuine love they have for Moony.
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:08 (eleven years ago) link
Definitely. Although, Pete had some snarky things to say about him in the Quad doc (including a hilarious imitation of his drumming).
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:16 (eleven years ago) link
17. "Pinball Wizard" (Tommy, 1969)13 votes, 263 pointshttp://www.gameroomchamp.com/product_images/b/178/Tommy_The_Whos_Pinball_Wizard_99-01__22355_zoom.jpghttp://youtu.be/gpGegoE3Kik
I used to love BBE, but burned out on it in the 70s/80s. Burned out on all of Who's Next, really.
― Irwin Dante's Towering Inferno (WmC), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 18:27 (eleven years ago) link
16. "Bargain" (Who's Next, 1971) 10 votes, 269 points, two #1 votes (233 points studio, 36 points San Francisco 12/13/71)http://www.myticketstubs.com/711202.jpghttp://youtu.be/y0lXdl_HKrY
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
i thought for sure i'd be the only #1 vote for that one! i really just started to feel that song in my bones in a major way the last few years.
― some dude, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
"Bargain" was my second highest Who's Next vote. I think it's my favorite Daltrey singing, especially on the bridge, but also on the chorus. & the drumming is, needless to say, tremendous, especially in the chorus.
― Euler, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:28 (eleven years ago) link
The live version (in the YouTube link) was my #2. Just...fucking rampaging elephants.
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:35 (eleven years ago) link
Bargain is awesome
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:50 (eleven years ago) link
"Bargain" covered by onetime contemporary Christian big-shots Rez Band ("rez" short for "resurrectiom"):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=laGonH-hAQA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0cGMW4wUQc
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:52 (eleven years ago) link
15. "Happy Jack" (single, 1966) 15 votes, 298 pointshttp://991.com/newGallery/The-Who-Happy-Jack-83349.jpghttp://youtu.be/3yijuowRXiM
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:56 (eleven years ago) link
Their first US top 40 hit (#24)!
Yay Steadman!
― Irwin Dante's Towering Inferno (WmC), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
Daltrey looking frighteningly like Beavis there.
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
LAP LAP LAP LAP
LAFF LAFF LAFF LAFF
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
"I saw ya!"
― Instagrams of Lily on My Facebook Wall (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
have we talked about Who harmonies? was thinking about that over the weekend -- they really are fking awesome at harmonies aren't they
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:58 (eleven years ago) link
Heh-heh-heh! Heh-heh-heh! He said "jack"!
― Emeritus Professor of LOLology (snoball), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
haahha yeah I love that 'I saw ya' --- and isn't it Pete catching Moony trying to sing with them, when they didn't want him to?
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
I voted for "Happy Jack" but for the Live at Leeds version; what a thumper
― Euler, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 19:59 (eleven years ago) link
D'oh! You did? I'll have to issue a correction. (results would be the same, though) (and the spreadsheet is at home, so I'll check later)
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:01 (eleven years ago) link
I forgot about the Leeds version - def a goodun
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:02 (eleven years ago) link
xp Yep, they were recording the backing vocals, but Moon kept fucking up (he sang backup on records a surprising number of times), so they made him sit out of sight in the control room. After they finally got through a take, he popped his head up, and then down again. Hence the "I saw ya!"
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:04 (eleven years ago) link
lol
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:05 (eleven years ago) link
"Happy Jack" is something that would never fly these days, sort of like the Fugs "Dirty Old Man". So odd that a song about an old pervert would be a hit single. Great melody/buildup though! Terrific drumming, this is the kind of music Moon was made to play.
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:13 (eleven years ago) link
The burglars video for Happy Jack is pretty good as wellhttp://www.youtu.be/52cQeFBU2Kw
― Emeritus Professor of LOLology (snoball), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:17 (eleven years ago) link
Beginning to lose hope that I Don't Mind will chart. It's all about the solo and the stabbing "I know, yes I know" bit
― Dr X O'Skeleton, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:28 (eleven years ago) link
I kinda love the Hospitals' cover of "Happy Jack", which is the Who single with drums and distorted vocals on top of it. It's fantastic.
― Three Word Username, Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:38 (eleven years ago) link
14. "Magic Bus" (single, 1968) 14 votes, 301 points (289 points studio, 62 points Leeds, 33 points Stockholm, 8/23/72)http://powerlinead.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/the-who-1968.jpghttp://youtu.be/UKMn3Ip4y6s
― And Romney doesn't know what day it is... (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:41 (eleven years ago) link
yeeeeesssss magic bus rules
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 11 September 2012 20:44 (eleven years ago) link