There should be a 33-1/3 book about this. Not the album, just the single. From inception to writing to recording to video shoot to legacy. It would be amazing.
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Sunday, 2 September 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
I agree - there is something vast about it. I remember where I was the first time I heard it - at a youth AIDS awareness meeting SE Portland
a guy whose face I remember super-clearly was casually lipsyncing the bridge while the speaker told us about condoms
― we don't wanna miss a THING!!! (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Sunday, 2 September 2012 14:21 (twelve years ago) link
Another example (think: Mr Mister, Heart) of a song sold as a band performance when no one except the singers showed up to sing over an engineer's programming.
I can't think of any time in the last half century when this wasn't a common practice for pop records
― Lee626, Sunday, 2 September 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
oh sure (hey we're the Monkees!) -- this is the eighties edition, during which Emulators replace session men.
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 2 September 2012 14:36 (twelve years ago) link
One of many reasons why the '80s sucked, musically and otherwise
― Lee626, Sunday, 2 September 2012 14:45 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/music/starship-lead-guitarist-mark-abrahamian-dies-of-heart-attack-after-concert-in-nebraska/2012/09/03/0843a824-f62c-11e1-a93b-7185e3f88849_story.html
― how's life, Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link
Abrahamian joined Starship 11 years ago. Starship’s history goes back to the 1960s with Jefferson Airplane and in 1980s Jefferson Starship.
"The stage was now set for the Alan Parsons Project, which I believe was some sort of hovercraft."
― Darren Robocopsky (Phil D.), Tuesday, 4 September 2012 10:50 (twelve years ago) link
Jefferson Starship just played a gig here two nights ago. I just learned Starship and Jefferson Starship are now two completely different bands.
― Lee626, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:33 (twelve years ago) link
It's easier if you just categorize it all under Jefferson Wheelchair and leave it at that
The less you think about it, the easier it is
― set the controls for the heart of the sun (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:35 (twelve years ago) link
jefferson airplane ended up the anti-fleetwood mac somehow, like FM floating on a cloud of awesome despite constant changes for decades after their founding and JA watering down into starship.
― omar little, Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:37 (twelve years ago) link
Marconi plays the mamba
― Intent to Distribute (buzza), Wednesday, 5 September 2012 05:40 (twelve years ago) link
The greatest article ever:
http://www.gq.com/story/oral-history-we-built-this-city-worst-song-of-all-time
Martha Davis (vocalist, the Motels): As best I remember—and we're talking about the '80s, so I don't remember much—[Elton John lyricist] Bernie Taupin sent me the lyrics to “We Built This City” so I could write music to it. I called Bernie and said, “My artistic muse won't let me finish the song.” Regrets? Oh, hell no.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 18:50 (eight years ago) link
Will read, but this remains my favourite piece of writing on the song: https://web.archive.org/web/20080221011559/http://www.epinions.com/content_4818706564
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 19:00 (eight years ago) link
wtf is with all of these unfunny fake gq oral histories
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 19:03 (eight years ago) link
Stay gold, Jefferson Wheelchair
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:38 PM (four years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Wimmels, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 19:18 (eight years ago) link
Chaquico: I do the song with my band—sometimes as a full-on power trio, like if Cream or Jimi Hendrix were to do it, but we also do a reggae version of it, when we're in the mood. Imagine Bob Marley singing “We Built This City.”
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:21 (eight years ago) link
wait that was fake? Pretty good read -- I'm sure a ton of bands and artists start to hate their big hits, either at the time, or after performing them a 1000 times.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:56 (eight years ago) link
yeah it could've fooled me
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 20:58 (eight years ago) link
I dunno, quite a fair few of those look like actual quotes to me.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 21:32 (eight years ago) link
Far from the very worst song ever, let alonea tune with Taiping writing the words. I hear unintended compositional irony: The song validates synclaviers as worthwhile foundation stones in this city of rock 'n' roll.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 21:39 (eight years ago) link
er Taupin
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 21:40 (eight years ago) link
it's a tacky song, not a terrible song. the lyrics always confused me.
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 21:57 (eight years ago) link
I think as a song it's absolutely fucking wank.
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:14 (eight years ago) link
Genuinely perplexed as to why this gets to the top of US lists for worst songs ever - surely it's just a fairly typical 80s mainstream rock hit, nothing more, nothing less. Maybe everyone was expecting another 'White Rabbit' or something.
― Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:18 (eight years ago) link
as a good songwriter once wrote, but in that it's not charmless.
xpost
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:22 (eight years ago) link
wasn't actually aware of this song's worse standing until this article -- it's certainly a really dated 80s production, and the sentiment is also really dated. Even unaware of this song, I can't imagine anyone uttering this phrase or writing this song today. On top of that, it's a fantastic example of what 60s and 70s people look and sound like 80s-ized. Does that make it bad? Of course not. (but I think it's pretty bad myself, and did in the 80s too)
ZZ Top managed to pull a similar feat in the 80s, but somehow retained their basic identity.
― Dominique, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:30 (eight years ago) link
― who is extremely unqualified to review this pop album (BradNelson), Wednesday, August 31, 2016 8:03 PM (three hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
the smooth one was fake but this is real. i think? there are definitely real quotes in there.
― just sayin, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:31 (eight years ago) link
Had no idea Taupin wrote this, suddenly all those odd nonsequitors make sense
― Pull your head on out your hippy haze (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:39 (eight years ago) link
pretty good song, absolutely epic pre-chorus
― brimstead, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:40 (eight years ago) link
Yeah, I love this song. Always have. Looking forward to people moving on to another song they all agree is the worst ever.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:42 (eight years ago) link
It's considered bad because many critics remained (remain?) beholden to ideas of purity. I mean, the production doesn't sound anymore gimmicky than "Owner of a Lonely Heart."
"Sara" is far, far worse -- a candidate for worst '80s ballad.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:48 (eight years ago) link
Oh fucking hell...
― the hair - it's lost its energy (Turrican), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:50 (eight years ago) link
This song always felt like pointless garbage, and time doesn't change that.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link
"I'll never find another girl like you", fuck you Mickey, you probably found one on the way back to the dressing room
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:52 (eight years ago) link
does rock 'n roll negatively impact property values
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:53 (eight years ago) link
"It complains about techno pop, but it's a techno-pop song. It exemplifies the problem it's protesting" -- there it is. Techno pop isn't a problem. Hippie farts essaying techno pop isn't a problem.
It reminds me of The Rod Stewart Problem, received wisdom for decades: somewhere in the mid '70s Stewart cared about gold albums and models, not art, maaan. Anyone who like me wasn't born at the time could hear the dude was always chasing tail and gold from Gasoline Alley onwards; the difference was he made slightly more consistent albums.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 22:55 (eight years ago) link
The ITT version referred to in the piece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTvpikMIs3Q
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link
like Dominique, I don't think it's a good song (I like the bridge though!) but 1985-1986 gave it competition in the worst sweepstakes.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:02 (eight years ago) link
ffs "We are the World" for one
― Neanderthal, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:04 (eight years ago) link
Always remember that Grace and Paul reformed Jefferson Airplane again so they could make this...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0gnnVcOLNc
Makes We Built This City sound like a masterpiece.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:07 (eight years ago) link
It always figured that Jefferson Airplane would celebrate Howard Hughes. Uh.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:11 (eight years ago) link
I'm...stunned by "Planes," particularly of the closeups of Grace Slick's teeth.
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:16 (eight years ago) link
Put me down for "I don't necessarily like it, but I don't hate it" as well. I had thought its tenure as the Worst Song Ever had pretty much run its course by now, anyway. Didn't one of the recent EMP conferences declare (the infinitely worse) "Dear Mr. Jesus" the new "champion?"
― rhymes with "blondie blast" (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:35 (eight years ago) link
omg that planes song holy shit
― kurt schwitterz, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:39 (eight years ago) link
Other songs on that reunion album: "Panda" and "Common Market Madrigal"
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:40 (eight years ago) link
was gonna say
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 31 August 2016 23:45 (eight years ago) link
ZZ Top's "Rough Boy" gets my vote. For both its innate badness and its legacy-befouling qualities.
― Don Van Gorp, midwest regional VP, marketing (誤訳侮辱), Thursday, 1 September 2016 00:58 (eight years ago) link
so this is fake, right? besides the quotes with citations.
― brimstead, Thursday, 1 September 2016 01:10 (eight years ago) link
― The burrito of ennui (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, August 31, 2016 1:58 PM (four hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yeah but the smooth article DID fool you :P
― brimstead, Thursday, 1 September 2016 01:14 (eight years ago) link
It reminds me of The Rod Stewart Problem
this is something else:(Bryan Adams feat. The Rod Stewart Problem and Sting)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofA3URC1wyk
― brimstead, Thursday, 1 September 2016 01:20 (eight years ago) link