Bonus: Movie climaxes with Elliot deliberately crashing a jet, just barely missing the Twin Towers.
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 11 October 2002 20:10 (twenty-one years ago) link
A lot of people, seemingly. Not me, mind. Flea maybe a technically great musician, but his plinking-plonking-twanging bass sound is one of my least favourite sounds, not even just in the musical field. It's worse than the sound of belching. Ugh. "Californication" was in my top 5 least favourite albums of all time, it's an absolute dog of an album.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:26 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Dave M. (rotten03), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Yancey (ystrickler), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Friday, 11 October 2002 20:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Pete Scholtes, Friday, 11 October 2002 23:55 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Saturday, 12 October 2002 00:20 (twenty-one years ago) link
maybe, but i would argue that the self-indulgent/dull/irritating moments in JA are at least as bad as anything RHCP did. i think the fact that JA broke up before most of their fans outgrew their stuff is their critical shining armor.
― Dave M. (rotten03), Saturday, 12 October 2002 00:37 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Aaron Grossman (aajjgg), Saturday, 12 October 2002 00:58 (twenty-one years ago) link
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 12 October 2002 05:23 (twenty-one years ago) link
― G. Turkington, Wednesday, 16 October 2002 22:31 (twenty-one years ago) link
the 1988 Sam Elliot/Paul Weller film
I would pay money to see Sam Elliot kill Paul Weller on film. Or at least abuse him.
As for the question at hand...I'll grant 'em "Give It Away" and Frusciante really is a fantastic musician on his own. But that's it.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 16 October 2002 23:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
“Hey, why didn’t we think of that?”
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Thursday, 17 October 2002 03:12 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Mark (MarkR), Thursday, 17 October 2002 03:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Rockist Scientist, Thursday, 17 October 2002 03:34 (twenty-one years ago) link
Copies were at Terrastock.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 17 October 2002 03:38 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dave225 (Dave225), Thursday, 17 October 2002 11:19 (twenty-one years ago) link
it pained me to say that.
― adam b (adam b), Thursday, 17 October 2002 19:50 (twenty-one years ago) link
― G. Turkington, Friday, 18 October 2002 23:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― t, Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:18 (twenty-one years ago) link
― t, Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:21 (twenty-one years ago) link
frusciante's cuteness is another matter entirely.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― dleone (dleone), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:24 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:27 (twenty-one years ago) link
EVERYONE DOES. (except for me & maybe chaki)
Honestly, I loved their first 3 albums, was kinda "meh" about most of Mother's Milk (even though "Magic Johnson" & "Knock Me Down" are grebt songs, and "Pretty Little Ditty" was a thing of beauty until Crazytown raped it raw), ABSOLUTELY LOVED AND STILL DO Blood Sugar Sex Magik, and everything since then has been touched with rare moments of greatness ("Kill Your Television" fr'instance), but mostly frustrating in-that they've got great melodic/harmonic ideas (thank you John Frusciate!), but a lead singer with a rather limited range and a voice that can be k-annoying. This is a band I once loved, now a band I k-like that has some songs I love that my own band is (painfully often) compared to.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:35 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:43 (twenty-one years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
Well, I'm sold!
― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:46 (twenty-one years ago) link
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, 10 April 2003 13:52 (twenty-one years ago) link
― g--ff c-nn-n (gcannon), Thursday, 10 April 2003 14:30 (twenty-one years ago) link
― christoff (christoff), Thursday, 10 April 2003 19:33 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 10 April 2003 19:40 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Thursday, 10 April 2003 23:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 10 April 2003 23:45 (twenty-one years ago) link
By The WayUniversally SpeakingThis Is The PlaceDosedThe Zephyr SongCan't StopCabronOn MercuryMinor ThingVenice Queen
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 11 April 2003 20:51 (twenty-one years ago) link
See, the problem is how we're defining 'pleasant.' ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 April 2003 20:59 (twenty-one years ago) link
― SplendidMullet (iamamonkey), Friday, 11 April 2003 21:03 (twenty-one years ago) link
MAYBE? man i never miss a show. wait till you hear what Angelo Moore/Chaki are workin on in the studio together!
― chaki (chaki), Friday, 11 April 2003 21:06 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 11 April 2003 21:13 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 April 2003 21:15 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 11 April 2003 21:42 (twenty-one years ago) link
Unyielding ConditioningLemon MerangueRock StarWhen Problems AriseHousework
― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 12 April 2003 01:01 (twenty-one years ago) link
I'm wondering how Gill's production technique has changed over the years. There's a sort've crackly, blistering quality to the sound on this album, but the players seem very sonicly tucked behind the vocals, which -- unfortunately -- highlights Anthony Kiedis' limitations as a singer (not Andy Gill's fault). At the very least -- it's got a cleaner sound, quite unlike, say, the last Killing Joke album, Democracy, so here's hoping Gill's input solves that dilemna.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 16 April 2003 16:08 (twenty-one years ago) link
― Brooke Hardy, Saturday, 14 June 2003 10:20 (twenty years ago) link
AL B SURE TO THREAD
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Saturday, 14 June 2003 12:23 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 14 June 2003 12:28 (twenty years ago) link
― dave q, Saturday, 14 June 2003 17:35 (twenty years ago) link
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 14 June 2003 18:06 (twenty years ago) link
lol Fight like A Brave video is weirdo goofball “Beat It” and if you are not on board with that vibe then idk how to help you <3 also i like this song? it’s dumb & funI definitely now in my old age prefer their pre-BloodSugarSexMagik outputi still love a lot of songs from BSSM & Californication & later albums too, but i primarily now enjoy the dumb weirdo vibes of their 80’s stuff so much more
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 18:53 (six days ago) link
I definitely now in my old age prefer their pre-BloodSugarSexMagik output
I was a big fan of their first five albums. Saw them live several times shortly before and immediately after Mother's Milk. Literally stopped listening after "Give It Away"; never even made it to side 2 of my BloodSugarSexMagik cassette, and never listened to any album after that.
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 19:11 (six days ago) link
What was Hillel like as a performer?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 19:13 (six days ago) link
Never saw them with Hillel; all the shows I saw (April 1989, New Brunswick, NJ; July 1989, L.A.; and October 1989, NYC) were with baby John.
https://www.rhcplivearchive.com/show/apr-1989-new-brunswick-nj-2070
https://www.rhcplivearchive.com/show/jul-11-1989-los-angeles-ca-1170
https://www.rhcplivearchive.com/show/oct-27-1989-new-york-city-ny-1218
FTR, the July show is listed to history as a "Benefit for Father's Rights" but the sign outside the club that night read "Benefit to Pay Norwood's Alimony."
― Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 19:27 (six days ago) link
literally a boys' clublol
― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 19:33 (six days ago) link
Norwood Fisher from Fishbone?
― bbq, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:01 (six days ago) link
I saw them with Hillel twice - '86, '87. He was phenomenal. I remember he had a lot of guitar pedals and he was always locking into these funk riffs that would get hypnotic. Slight of build, but had a manic presence and chops that drew your attention.
― Josefa, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:10 (six days ago) link
I remember reading about the Father's Rights benefit in some magazine back then. Possibly Thrasher. May have been the first place I heard of the Chi Peps.
― peace, man, Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:21 (six days ago) link
What was Hillel like as a performer?― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, May 29, 2024 3:13 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, May 29, 2024 3:13 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
He’ll play a little guitar, sing a few bluesHe’s the kind-a-guy that you can’t refuseDespite the fact that he’s no bruteHe’s the skinny sweaty man in the green suit
Strike the magic groove make him jerk and moveLike an eight legged freak in snake skin bootsComing soon to a theatre near youIt’s the skinny sweaty man in the green suit
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:27 (six days ago) link
i saw them doing a couple songs on some late night fundraiser for local TV in Los Angeles late 80's and when it was done the host had no idea what just happened. it was amazing to me as a kid.
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:33 (six days ago) link
then at some point years later KROQ would play them every hour and it wasn't so cool anymore
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:35 (six days ago) link
At this point, the original 10-song 1983 demo with Hillel and Jack might be the best Pep ever. Nine of the tracks were on Out in L.A. (now OOP), and kind of wish they would just drop a remastered version on a cassette
http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqsni052XnfHTm_0m2E6ygSkvYxc4Fd6L
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:36 (six days ago) link
Actually I have no idea if it's actually out of print, but it's "not on streaming services" for whatever that's worth
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 20:37 (six days ago) link
Out In LA was a budget CD bin staple for years. I think it has been broken up and the tracks were added to expanded versions of the relevant albums.
― an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 29 May 2024 21:13 (six days ago) link