Peter Buck: Classic or Dud?

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molly, Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:44 (nineteen years ago) link

Since Billy Berry left, he's easily the coolest guy in the band.

Reminds me of his famous quote about being the most famous "underground" band akin to being the world's tallest midget...

frankE (frankE), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:47 (nineteen years ago) link

Well, being that REM are, as far as I'm concerned, several zip codes away from being relevant anymore, that's the best I could muster.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 19:59 (nineteen years ago) link

Peter Buck was one of my guitar teachers (by proxy). The stuff isn't too difficult to play, but it does teach you many clever tricks. Kurt taught me how to rock and Buck showed me how to be graceful.
Nobody has mentioned his undoubtedly classic jangle solo on The Replacements' I Will Dare. That's the business.
I can understand why he'd be a bit cheesed off with indie snobs who only allow themselves to like the first two albums. Admit it, along with Murmur, Automatic is their masterpiece.
He does seem to be a bit bored with REM these days. I think he gets his real kicks playing with his mates in the Minus 5 et al.

Stew S, Thursday, 23 September 2004 20:08 (nineteen years ago) link

Classic if only for Document.

danh (danh), Thursday, 23 September 2004 20:12 (nineteen years ago) link

I met a future friend of mine in college when I was playing "Wolves, Lower" on my guitar in my room when somebody knocked on the door and asked, stunned, "dude was that early REM?"

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 23 September 2004 21:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Chronic Town is indeed fuckin' flawless. It must be said.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Thursday, 23 September 2004 21:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I owe my guitar style (such as it is) completely to Buck. He is the only guitarist I can seriously talk about being "influenced" by.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Thursday, 23 September 2004 21:32 (nineteen years ago) link

the more buck dominates, the worse REM are.

this is not to say that buck is bad, just that too much of him is a bad thing.

for his part in rem's great records, buck is classic.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 23 September 2004 22:29 (nineteen years ago) link

I was listening to Chronic Town just yesterday and I say classic. Maybe when he picked up a mandolin things turned dud. But I always thought "Peter Buck" was a great guitar hero name.

wickerbocker please (hammy), Friday, 24 September 2004 00:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Maybe when he picked up a mandolin things turned dud.

agreed

frankE (frankE), Friday, 24 September 2004 12:15 (nineteen years ago) link

Right after I came back from Portugal, I read an interview where Buck was talking about trying to get a decent cheese sandwich on a train in Portugal. He knows his cheese sandwiches I tell you, because I couldn't find a decent cheese sandwich either. They're very dry.

dave225 (Dave225), Friday, 24 September 2004 12:25 (nineteen years ago) link

Cool muttonchops, but I always found his guitar playing to be distinctly UN-distinctive. Not as good as Kimberly Rew or Roger McGuinn or Richard Thompson or whoever else he's been compared to. I admit not having heard everything he's ever played on (only owned 4 REM LPs in my life & rarely played 'em), but of the stuff I've heard, nothing made me take notice. Recording with the Replacements showed good taste, but that was negated (with a vengeance) by recording with Dream Academy (which I didn't know until just now.) Even that Tuatara thing was a big letdown.

One thing: At least I'll give him credit for a sense of humour, recording a track called "E-Bow The Letter" and NOT actually using the e-bow on said track. Assuming that actually WAS a joke of some kind. Never could tell with those guys.

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:19 (nineteen years ago) link

um, I think there's e-bow in that. There was in the video.

manthony m1cc1o (Anthony Miccio), Friday, 24 September 2004 14:27 (nineteen years ago) link

there's ridiculous amounts of e-bow in that song. including the two-note lead.

joseph cotten (joseph cotten), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:09 (nineteen years ago) link

I always thought "Peter Buck" was a great guitar hero name.

Also a great porn star name!

morris pavilion (samjeff), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:30 (nineteen years ago) link

there's ridiculous amounts of e-bow in that song. including the two-note lead.

Then again, "Country Feedback" also consists of mostly what the title tells us :)

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Friday, 24 September 2004 15:44 (nineteen years ago) link

But REM's mandolin songs are mostly great...Wrong Child, Hairshirt, Losing My Religion, Half A World Away. In fact, those are the only ones with mandolin, not counting obscure b-sides and that.
Sure he's nowhere as good as Roger McGuinn or Richard Thompson, but he's never claimed to be.
At his best, Buck is a great example of a guitarist who serves the band rather than himself.

Stew S, Friday, 24 September 2004 19:43 (nineteen years ago) link

Stew S OTM!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Friday, 24 September 2004 19:48 (nineteen years ago) link

recording a track called "E-Bow The Letter" and NOT actually using the e-bow on said track. - MVB

um, I think there's e-bow in that. There was in the video.
-- manthony m1cc1o

there's ridiculous amounts of e-bow in that song. including the two-note lead. -- Joseph Cotten

Sorry, my mistake. (Well, not ENTIRELY mine: I actually read that somewhere recently and just assumed it was correct! I've never even HEARD "E-Bow The Letter", to my knowledge.)

Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Thursday, 30 September 2004 09:09 (nineteen years ago) link

It's very good!

Sick Mouthy (Nick Southall), Thursday, 30 September 2004 09:15 (nineteen years ago) link

whenever this thread pops up i don't know what to think :X

peter $.., Thursday, 30 September 2004 09:18 (nineteen years ago) link

i mean, classic!

peter $.., Thursday, 30 September 2004 09:19 (nineteen years ago) link

seven years pass...

so here's what Buck is doing post - R.E.M.
http://journaldelpacifico.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Todos-Santos-Music-Festival-Poster-231x300.jpg

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:36 (twelve years ago) link

http://journaldelpacifico.com/blog/music-festival/

tylerw, Tuesday, 3 January 2012 18:37 (twelve years ago) link

nine months pass...

Anyone heard the Peter Buck solo album yet? I ordered it on impulse the other night, still waiting for it to show up.

trebek sajak iii (cwkiii), Thursday, 1 November 2012 13:12 (eleven years ago) link

hmm, sounds like steve wynn

tylerw, Friday, 2 November 2012 15:20 (eleven years ago) link

one year passes...

encouraging? but please, don't name this band "super-Earth."

Daniel, Esq 2, Saturday, 3 May 2014 19:49 (ten years ago) link

TS: super-Earth vs. SuperHeavy

Damnit Janet Weiss & The Riot Grrriel (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 3 May 2014 20:19 (ten years ago) link

Get a haircut u tramp

Master of Treacle, Saturday, 3 May 2014 20:54 (ten years ago) link

Ridiculously stoked about this.

kaleb, Sunday, 4 May 2014 07:47 (ten years ago) link

Yeah same

sonic thedgehod (albvivertine), Sunday, 4 May 2014 09:32 (ten years ago) link

Cool. The tragic curse of recording and performing solo under his own name is that he can never break up. Super groups are more dramatic and suspenseful.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 4 May 2014 20:38 (ten years ago) link

The new solo album, I Am Back to Blow Your Mind Once Again, is pretty good! Looking forward to super-Earth, which seems like a natural evolution from the two solo records: Rieflin and McCaughey have been his backing band for a while now, and the songs with Tucker have been highlights of both records, so this makes sense. Anyway, I'm excited!

cwkiii, Monday, 5 May 2014 15:09 (ten years ago) link

that's a weird vibe-combination, i think?

Daniel, Esq 2, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 00:08 (ten years ago) link

every generation gets their travelin' wilburys

andrew m., Tuesday, 6 May 2014 02:24 (ten years ago) link

if someone from the Fastbacks was already in the mix, i don't feel like having Novoselic dramatically offsets that makeup. anyway it seems like Buck-Tucker is the songwriting team and the other guys are just filling out the sound.

some dude, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 11:57 (ten years ago) link

http://thebaseballproject.net/

So is Buck no longer in this group? I think sometimes he records with them, but doesn't tour. Haven't heard the 3rd release that cam out in March

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 15:33 (ten years ago) link

I didn't hear anything about him leaving the group. Mike Mills is involved now, too.

http://onlyagame.wbur.org/2014/03/29/baseball-project-third-album - this was linked on the official R.E.M. site recently.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 15:37 (ten years ago) link

i like the idea of these old college rockers making albums about baseball, but i have no real desire to hear the results. but maybe someone can convince me...

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 15:40 (ten years ago) link

Not me. :)

Something about Scott McCaughey has always rubbed me the wrong way, though. Maybe if you're into Young Fresh Fellows et al you might dig it, but I was not a fan of the songs I heard.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 15:42 (ten years ago) link

The songs about Ted Williams and Roy Halladay that I was forced to endure years ago still haunt me.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 15:43 (ten years ago) link

Young Fresh Fellows are a band a like the idea of, but I've never really gotten into them. I mainly like ideas.

tylerw, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 15:45 (ten years ago) link

I can't get past their sense of humor, which also pervades The Baseball Project. Which is a bummer, because I do love the idea of this band existing. I should probably just shut up and start my own baseball band, though.

cwkiii, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 15:56 (ten years ago) link

the Baseball Project is a fun idea with solid parts, but the end result isn't that great. it's clever here and there, but kinda bland overall. sorry to say...

i did see one of their shows a few years ago in a room that holds 100 ppl, and Buck *was* there (so he has toured w/ them at least once) ... I actually thought he toured but didn't really record, but that is based on basically nothing.

was cool to see Buck in a place that small, tho, regardless of the band around him, the music, etc.

alpine static, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 16:21 (ten years ago) link

also, in case anyone missed it, this interview he did with a Portland alt-weekly a few weeks back is terrific:

http://www.wweek.com/portland/article-22438-permanent_vacation.html

he comes off very cool and humble, and the story about the Verve is so great.

alpine static, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 16:23 (ten years ago) link

few years ago, i found myself standing behind him at barney's in nyc, waiting to get our pants tailored. if you've ever wondered where rock stars buy their psychedelic velvet threads, now you've got one answer. i was buying threads that were neither psychedelic nor velvet, but you don't need to know that. anyway, the guy waiting on him said something like, "murmur was a great album," in a polite, deferential tone. buck glared back with the iciest eyes i've ever seen and said, "that was 15 years ago." neither buck nor the salesman opened his mouth again as far as i could tell

This is still hilarious

Going by the timeline, wasn't this when he really started to go to town with the "this is our best album ever" stuff?

Master of Treacle, Tuesday, 6 May 2014 16:43 (ten years ago) link

He's one of those dudes, like Elvis Costello, who produced some pretty iconic records and then, weirdly, never really worked as a producer for hire again.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 June 2014 14:26 (ten years ago) link

I have seen him on stage a good 8 or so times due to my fiendish Robyn Hitchcock fandom and he always looks totally disgruntled. I think that's just his playing face and he's always focused on what he's doing.

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 2 June 2014 14:31 (ten years ago) link

yeah, i've never seen him w/ hitchcock, but my brother did a few years ago and he said Buck looked extremely disinterested. but i think that's just his Buck Face (and in those situations he probably has some idea of just being a sideman who no one is paying attention to). He must enjoy it to some extent, he certainly doesn't have to be playing with Robyn Hitchcock to make ends meet. or maybe Robyn knows some dark things about Buck and is blackmailing him.

tylerw, Monday, 2 June 2014 14:43 (ten years ago) link

He's indicated he loves that gig. The skeleton in the closet is probably just "I peter buck am a huge soft boys nerd"

Khamma chameleon (Jon Lewis), Monday, 2 June 2014 14:51 (ten years ago) link

he always looks totally disgruntled.

Last time I saw him with Robyn, he also did an opening set with his own group and he looked and sounded drunk as a leader, but such characteristics were less noticeable later that night backing Robyn. It still made me later look up that old story of him on the plane.

curmudgeon, Monday, 2 June 2014 15:23 (ten years ago) link

one year passes...

new (?) album warzone earth is a major jam session, way more raucous than i was expecting. it's even kind of stooges-y. dude can't sing for shit but neither can lots of solid bros

reggie (qualmsley), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 22:02 (eight years ago) link

I still can't believe what a big deal REM used to make about quitting on 12/31/99 on how stupid it would be to continue making records once they became irrelevant and mediocre, and then proceeded to do just that.

yes wave (rip van wanko), Tuesday, 24 November 2015 23:15 (eight years ago) link

i think about that a lot too. my friends and i thought it was such a cool idea and that factored into our love of the band. wish they had kept their word.

brotherlovesdub, Tuesday, 24 November 2015 23:46 (eight years ago) link

it's really stupid to make records

reggie (qualmsley), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 00:03 (eight years ago) link

They are the biggest example of a band that stuck around too long.

kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 25 November 2015 01:06 (eight years ago) link

i'm relistening to those 1980 show links, i like that version of rem.

wishy washy hippy variety hour (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 25 November 2015 21:22 (eight years ago) link

http://www.daysofthecrazy-wild.com/audio-new-peter-buck-corin-tucker-supergroup-debut-12-songs-at-portlands-secret-society/

― Tom Waits for no one (outdoor_miner), Saturday, May 3, 2014 12:09 PM (1 year ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

still waiting for this, but guess i need to hear the new stuff

TBP is maybe my favorite band now

Comprehensive Nuclear Suggest-Ban Treaty (benbbag), Thursday, 26 November 2015 19:52 (eight years ago) link

six years pass...

really enjoying The No Ones - The Great Lost No Ones Album

https://the-no-ones.bandcamp.com/album/the-great-lost-no-ones-album

Peter Buck and his homie Scott McCaughey plus guys from a Norwegian power pop band called I Was a King that I'm not familiar with

really nice jangle stuff, not surprising but there are some really good songs on here and has good energetic feel

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 11 October 2022 15:58 (one year ago) link


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