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Can we start some kind of master list on the GREAT books of the series? They're too expensive for me to just do trial-and-error with, even though some of them are about some of my favorite albums.

Reatards Unite, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:19 (seventeen years ago) link

I thoroughly enjoyed the 'Bee Thousand' GBV entry - can't recall the author's name, but he made the book engaging and interesting at all times. I especially liked his touch of incorporating several 'listener accounts' of fave songs, gut reactions, reminiscing, etc.

Just picked up the 'Daydream Nation' SY entry - about a quarter of the way through and it's just not grabbing me so far. Maybe I want it to put me in a magic state of mind for the ATM/Pfork performance coming up in July. So stoked for that!

BlackIronPrison, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:26 (seventeen years ago) link

Or more specifically, can someone let me know how these are (some of them may not be out yet, I'm just looking at a list of all titles):

Prince - Sign O the Times
The Replacements - Let It Be
The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street (!!)
REM - Murmur
David Bowie - Low
The Byrds - Notorious Byrd Brothers
Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
Pixies - Doolittle
Stone Roses - Stone Roses
Nirvana - In Utero
Sly and the Family Stone - There's a Riot Going On
My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
Captain Beefheart - Trout Mask Replica (!!)
Guns N Roses - Use Your Illusion

Reatards Unite, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:27 (seventeen years ago) link

the sly stone one is amazing.

stevie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 13:48 (seventeen years ago) link

Yeah, which ones are about the record itself? I was very tempted to get the Replacements one until I read the reviews that it was a "coming-of'age" memoir about the author who listened to the record.

Pleasant Plains, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:46 (seventeen years ago) link

even worse: it's written by the Decemberists guy

Mr. Que, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:48 (seventeen years ago) link

the sly stone one has only the slightest bit of autobiog, and it actually helps illuminate the album. and it is very well written too - can't reccommend it enough.

stevie, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:49 (seventeen years ago) link

there's a whole thread about MATOS's book on 'sign o the times' somewhere i think. it got raves in the press and its brilliant. the IN UTERO is also ace.

pisces, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 16:54 (seventeen years ago) link

Trout Mask book is a little disappointing, but I still read it in a day.
The author has written a book on Zappa, so there's a lot of that. At least one factual error about Steve Reich's "Come Out" that is really glaring, but I think it's attributable to one of the ladies in the GTO's.
A good read, nonetheless.

Trip Maker, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:02 (seventeen years ago) link

I also think it missed an opportunity to talk about compilations

it actually talked a lot about compilations, specifically how Gold was put together etc. it's a terrific book.

Matos W.K., Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:20 (seventeen years ago) link

Well, it should have talked about them even more then. I did read it on an overnight flight back from the EMP though, so I will re-read and own up if I was wrong.

Groke, Wednesday, 2 May 2007 17:23 (seventeen years ago) link

Has anyone read the Guns 'n' Roses book? I wasn't sure if I'd like this one (I'm not a huge GNR fan at all) but the author had an interesting take on the GNR phenomenon of the early 90s.

Nik, Sunday, 6 May 2007 21:18 (seventeen years ago) link

especially as it now looks like it's the only 33 1/3 book that will be about one.

I enjoyed what I read of it in that sampler book (which, for whatever reason, I thought would be a collection of FULL books, buyer beware and/or actually know what you're purchasing first -- but this is a good idea since buying lots of individual books can be daunting, and doesn't let me read about albums I'm not already interested in). But it was frustrating that 33 1/3 chose a compilation when ABBA has several excellent albums to choose from (it's not like they aren't covering other artists whose catalogue makes picking one album almost impossible). That in itself seemed somewhat apologetic, though the history/song selection process (that I've read about so far anyway) was interesting. I'd like to see a history of ABBA that refuses to engage with them only as a "singles band" (especially in a format devoted to albums).

dabug, Sunday, 6 May 2007 22:55 (seventeen years ago) link

*releasing compilations with several full books, I mean. Although it would probably be fairly expensive.

dabug, Sunday, 6 May 2007 22:56 (seventeen years ago) link

GOLD IS AN ALBUM

Dimension 5ive, Sunday, 6 May 2007 23:19 (seventeen years ago) link

So what was the GNR book like, Nik? Was there much about the making of the actual albums? I AM a big GNR fan, but I could see how an author could easily mess up a book about the Illusion albums.

Reatards Unite, Sunday, 6 May 2007 23:46 (seventeen years ago) link

I read Eric's Use Your Illusion book not long ago: not bad at all; a nicely ambivalent book. The track-by-track analysis is quite useful.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Sunday, 6 May 2007 23:53 (seventeen years ago) link

I read the Music From Big Pink book last week. Definitely a page-turner. The author wrote his appreciation in the form of a novella from the perspective of a young man who dealt drugs to The Band. The parts about the music were worthwhile, but what really struck me was how vividly it depicted the tragic consequences of the disconnect between the Greatest Generation and their Baby Boomer offspring.

Fitzcarraldo, Sunday, 6 May 2007 23:56 (seventeen years ago) link

OTM, stevie, the Daydream Nation one was bad--i've read six or so of the titles and 1/2 are good, 1/2 bad

iago g., Monday, 7 May 2007 00:30 (seventeen years ago) link

Prince - Sign O the Times
If you are looking for a making-of book, then get Posessed. This is a pretty personal book, and while I like Matos' writing elsewhere, I think I wanted something different than what this book offered. I didn't really find Matos' critical analysis of the album itself to be illuminating but that wasn't (to me) what the book was about.

The Replacements - Let It Be
I was so disappointed in this one even though I really related to Meloy's experience a lot. The problem--which Jim Walsh will rectify shortly, I hope-- is that the book doesn't touch on the making of the album or even the band.

The Rolling Stones - Exile on Main Street (!!)
I LOVED this book but I'm kind of a homer because I like Bill Janovitz so much. I loved reading about this book from not only a huge fan, but from a musician's perspective. It's a solid combination of musical authority, historical context, and recording overview.

REM - Murmur
This is probably my favorite. Niimi does a killer job of combining critical analysis, the recording process, and mystification/demystification of the album

Beastie Boys - Paul's Boutique
Enjoyable, historical thingie.

Pixies - Doolittle
This one is also good, if nothing else because it's kind of a dream assignment: the writer gets in the car with Frank Black for a few days and they drive around talking about the album. It's well done.

Nirvana - In Utero
I really thought this one started out awkwardly but got better as it progressed. It's a pretty straight forward making-of.

Sly and the Family Stone - There's a Riot Going On
I'm reading this one right now and like it.

My Bloody Valentine - Loveless
I think this book could have been better, writing-wise. But it's an album so near and dear to my heart, and I'm thankful a big fan like Mike could write it. The bulk of it is very good.

Don't buy the Radiohead album.

Dandy Don Weiner, Monday, 7 May 2007 00:33 (seventeen years ago) link

The GNR book definitely includes a making of, but a lot of it is also kind of an ode to the lost potential of GNR - he definitely calls 'em on their numerous missteps. It kind of examines the notion of popular success in general and I think at one point he calls Use Your Illusion kind of the lack "mega" blockbuster album (forgive the paraphrase, he definitely had a better label for it but I'm full of decongestants and can't get to my book right now). Anyway, it's definitely a decent read if you ever liked GNR.

Nik, Monday, 7 May 2007 03:58 (seventeen years ago) link

Don, I agree the Mats book isn't a fine one if you're looking for info on the band, but I still really liked Colin Meloy's melancholy evocation of his boyhood. He certainly evokes what the mid-80s felt like if you were a young artsy-fartsy outkast kind of fella in a small town. It's one of my favorites of the series (although I'd still like a more straightforward Replacements book too)

Nik, Monday, 7 May 2007 03:59 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...

I just finished the GNR book and I'm sorry, I gotta call bullshit. The chapters where Weisbard chronicles his own ascent to Critic Valhalla are boring, and the track-by-track is pretty much just him going "haha I never should have written this book because these records mostly suck." I hear he is a top guy -- and he comes around here sometimes too, so probably just shooting myself in the foot here if I ever thought about presenting at the conference or whatever -- but he had an opportunity to do something cool and I think he mailed it in.

Is this bitterness because the fat dead Hawaiian ukulele dude book was greenlighted but my Cheap Trick proposal never had a chance? OF COURSE. But all the stuff about "oh here's what Jon Pareles said" and "I worked for Bob Guccione Jr. and he was nice to me so Axl is a dickbag"...I ain't buyin' it.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:05 (sixteen years ago) link

That's a shame to hear, because I could totally see a great book being written about the Use Your Illusions (obviously, since I started this thread, and should probably re-do it as a poll).

I came the conclusion a while back that the best possible 33 1/3 book I could write would probably be about Pearl Jam's Vitalogy, although I don't think I could ever bring myself to pitch it and possibly go through with re-living my grunge adolescence like that and be the guy who wrote a book about Pearl Jam. But it would be awesome.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

SOMEONE among our generation needs to do this

strongohulkington, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

the grunge book will be a big success when it finally drops

strongohulkington, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:50 (sixteen years ago) link

never forget

Jordan, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:51 (sixteen years ago) link

Seriously. I just hope that when someone does do a Pearl Jam book, it's about one of crazy pretentious albums like Vitalogy or No Code and not boring old Ten, my whole theory being that a band's weirdest or most indulgent album would make a way better book than their biggest or best. (xpost)

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:53 (sixteen years ago) link

Did Geeta's Eno book come out?

Alex in SF, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 15:54 (sixteen years ago) link

I'm pretty sure Perpetua pitched Vitalogy this go-round.

jaymc, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:27 (sixteen years ago) link

(And suffice it to say didn't get in.)

jaymc, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:28 (sixteen years ago) link

so, anybody read aja?

original bgm, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I think next time I'll pitch The Weirdness.

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:34 (sixteen years ago) link

oh wait, they already did a stooges book. fuck!

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:35 (sixteen years ago) link

I thought about pitching August and Everything After.

fukasaku tollbooth, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

jess you should pitch flipper.

da croupier, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:36 (sixteen years ago) link

DEAD MILKMEN BIG LIZARD IN MY BACKYARD WOULD SELL 15 COPIES GUARANTEED

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:41 (sixteen years ago) link

I liked the Aja book. It delves very heavily into music theory which I thought was very interesting (how the fuck did they make those crazy chord progressions?) but not enough to turn people off.

My favorite so far is the Low book. Best written also. Stories of Bowie surviving solely on milk, coke and cigarettes == priceless.

Bill in Chicago, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:42 (sixteen years ago) link

haha Perpetua, dammit! actually I'm generally cool with him when he's writing about cheesy 90's alt-rock, so I'd probably read that. same reason I'd probably read a Counting Crows book. in theory, at least, the only 33 1/3 I've actually read so far was SOTT, but I might have to get that Aja one.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 16:48 (sixteen years ago) link

im kind of addicted to these things but i'm reaching the diminishing returns point now that i've moved outside of the writers i know already enjoy

strongohulkington, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:01 (sixteen years ago) link

ooh when did the AJA book come out? is it available in UK?

pisces, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

wow, I really don't think I can finish the Daydream Nation book.

Dandy Don Weiner, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 19:27 (sixteen years ago) link

The guy who is writing the Master of Reality book posts here, and I am really looking forward to that. If he's reading this, could you provide the ETA?

Thanks.

Bill Magill, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:04 (sixteen years ago) link

wow, I really don't think I can finish the Daydream Nation book.

It gets a little better after the over-the-top gonzo tongue bath he gives the band/album in the first 30 pages or so, but even then, the most interesting parts come from the interviews he does with Steve and Lee, rather than from his tenuously drawn lyrical exegeses.

jaymc, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:16 (sixteen years ago) link

I just read Eric's book finally, and I've gotta say he did it about the only way that could interest me at this point. There's been nine million words written about GNR, and few writers are gonna have anything to offer now except rehash. (And honestly, I feel the same way about the Replacements, a band I was a lot deeper into in their moment.) Eric did a great job of bringing new thinking along with the necessary history; also, any ambivalence he has about the music is fully justified. The Illusions were messy, overgrown and sometimes unlistenable from Day One, and those qualities seem amplified a million times given subsequent events.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:47 (sixteen years ago) link

NB: I haven't read Meloy's book yet, so that above comment is no bust on him.

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:49 (sixteen years ago) link

Also hahaha "events."

If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 20:50 (sixteen years ago) link

Help me then with the "new thinking" part then, please, because I didn't get any of that. Just that the records aren't Appetite for Destruction? I think we all knew that. Is it that he is a well-known music writer? I personally knew that too.

Dimension 5ive, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 21:00 (sixteen years ago) link

The guy who is writing the Master of Reality book posts here, and I am really looking forward to that. If he's reading this, could you provide the ETA?

I don't know, really! I don't like to talk about work-in-progress, kinda weirdly superstitious about that

J0hn D., Wednesday, 27 June 2007 21:03 (sixteen years ago) link

I just picked up the Notorious Byrd Bros one and am about a third of the way through. To be honest the writing seems average at best -- and his personal bio bits weren't as engaging as Matos's -- but I am unfamiliar enough with certain parts of the Byrds backstory that it is holding interest. I'm still very much looking forward to the discussion of the record in the next section; i'll withhold judgement til I finish.

shame about the Use Yr Illusions -- I was interested in checking that one as well, although I'm no fan of his writing. I liked that he chose to explore those two albs over Appetite. but if he is less than enthusiastic about them then fuck it.

Stormy Davis, Wednesday, 27 June 2007 21:06 (sixteen years ago) link


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