Thanks clemenza. Loved the images too - will shamelessly rip off if I ever do another of these.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
like of COURSE Neil's best song features dropped beats and flubbed bass notes
xp
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:42 (eleven years ago) link
I will xps
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
Many thanks to Clemenza and his brilliant images. There will always be a place for this poll in the Deep Forbidden Lake of my heart.
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
When the first shot hit the dock, I saw it comin'
hmm always heard this as DOG, not dock - which seems more tragic somehow
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
Also, I don't think I would consider "Powderfinger" one of NY's "epics" -- I mean, it's under 6 minutes and doesn't have a giant-ass solo section or anything. "Cortez" is in that epic style, as are the obvious "Cowgirl" and "DBTR" but I think of "Powderfinger" as a story song more than anything else.
― hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
Neither "Cortez" nor "Powderfinger" ever did much for me, didn't vote for either, but someone must like them and evidently Neil does since those are concert staples. OTOH am I the only vote for "You and Me"? (that was "our song" for, well, someone I really liked and me).
Thx for the great poll and great images Clemenza!
― Lee626, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:43 (eleven years ago) link
And yes, awesome job all around, Clemenza!
― hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
Exemplary roll-out, clemenza. Bar raised.
― Jeff W, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
fabulous job!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
Seriously, I didn't "get" "Powderfinger" for the LONGEST time, but it crept up on me over time and once it hit me, it revealed itself to be just the perfect song. It really is SO simple that it could sneak by if you let it.
xposts to Ismael
― cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
Powderfinger is 6 minutes that feel like 10. Great lyrics, but slog, slog, slog.
― EZ Snappin, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:44 (eleven years ago) link
Powderfinger would have been a fantastic Skynyrd song.
― Three Word Username, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
That was the idea; supposedly Van Zant was up for recording it.
― Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
The line goes on to mean something else, but "think of me as one you'd never figured" is pretty definitive as a career statement.
That's why it's the epigraph to Shakey! :)
― cwkiii, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:46 (eleven years ago) link
Clemenza, this entire thing, from your original post to the screencaps to the post-mortems which haven't even happened yet, has been welcoming, challenging, informative and fun. Not enough superlatives. Thanks.
― exclusive to this pledge group - pleasure (weatheringdaleson), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
Neil has routinely stretched that song over the 6 minute mark live - I totally consider it in the same class as Like a Hurricane, Down by the River, Cowgirl, Cortez, etc.
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:47 (eleven years ago) link
Yeah, high fives Clemenza, great poll.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:48 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks. I sat down this morning and checked point totals for 16 albums. These were the Top 10:
1. After the Gold Rush (1970) -- 11 songs/1,861 points2. On the Beach (1974) -- 8/1,7293. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere (1969) -- 7/1,6074. Rust Never Sleeps (1979) -- 9/1,5985. Tonight's the Night (1975) -- 11/1,4146. Harvest (1972) -- 9/1,3907. Zuma (1975) -- 9/1,1558. Time Fades Away (1973) -- 8/7669. American Stars 'n Bars (1977) -- 7/69910. Freedom (1989) -- 10/652
Really impressive: from Everybody through Zuma, the only song not get a vote was "There's a World."
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
ah, I'd often wondered about Skynyrd/"Powderfinger"......they might have been too funky to play it right, though!
― theStalePrince, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:52 (eleven years ago) link
I had 'Powderfinger' at #20 - as with cwkiii it was one that suddenly hit me as being great relatively recently, wouldn't ever have guessed it would be #1 but it's a fine choice.
The poll overall has been great, thanks so much clemenza.
― Gavin, Leeds, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
Fun poll, not surprised by the winner, mine was unranked but powder finger is about everything good about neil in one song
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:54 (eleven years ago) link
I should get away from this chair for a bit...Feel free to start posting your own lists; here's mine. I'll post a summary of the Top 75 later on.
1. “Only Love Can Break Your Heart” – 252. “Cinnamon Girl” – 233. “Cowgirl in the Sand” – 214. “Ambulance Blues” – 205. “Country Girl” – 206. “Tell Me Why” – 207. “Cortez the Killer” – 178. “Sugar Mountain” – 159. “Till the Morning Comes” – 1510. “Ocean Girl” – 1511. “Barstool Blues” – 1212. “After the Gold Rush” – 913. “Bad Fog of Loneliness” – 914. “Cripple Creek Fairy” – 915. “Journey Through the Past” – 916. “Helpless” – 817. “Roll Another Number” – 718. “Love in Mind” – 619. “Over and Over” – 620. “The Emperor of Wyoming” – 621. “Albuquerque” – 622. “Ohio” – 623. “Tired Eyes” – 624. “Scenery” – 525. “A Man Needs a Maid” – 526. “Sea of Madness” – 527. “Are You Ready for Country” – 528. “The Loner” – 529. “Only Love Can Break Your Heart” (Saint Etienne) – 530. “Wonderin’” – 531. “Comes a Time” – 532. “Down by the River” – 533. “Soldier” – 534. “Prisoners of Rock ‘N’ Roll” – 535. “Slowly Burning” – 536. “There Goes My Babe” – 537. “Hangin’ On a Limb” – 538. “It’s My Time” – 539. “Out of My Mind” – 540. “Pocahontas” – 5
― clemenza, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:57 (eleven years ago) link
1. Stringman – 30 pts2. Homegrown – 26 pts3. Transformer Man – 23 pts4. Too Far Gone – 19 pts5. Rockin’ in the Free World – 17 pts6. Long May You Run – 16 pts7. This Note’s For You – 15 pts8. Yonder Stands the Sinner – 14 pts9. L.A. – 13 pts10. Lookout Joe -12 pts11. White Line – 11 pts12. Crime in the City – 10 pts13. Bite the Bullet – 9 pts14. Roll Another Number (For the Road) – 8pts15. Come Along and Say You Will – 7 pts16. Dead Man soundtrack – organ solo – 6 pts17. Oh, Lonesome Me – 5 pts18. I Believe in You – 4 pts19. The Loner – 3 pts20. Lookin’ for a Love – 2 pts
Really pissed my number 1 didn't place at all. FUCK YOU GUYS
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
"Stringman"! I forgot about it!
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 18:59 (eleven years ago) link
Great poll, great rollout -- thanks, clemenza!
― Neil Jung (WmC), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
Late cut for me shakey....btw your ballot really goes against the canon!
― wack nerd zinging in the dead of night (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:00 (eleven years ago) link
hm! i actually cut powderfinger at the last minute. didn't think it'd be the winner, though!this is greathttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTV6QB3btQs
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:01 (eleven years ago) link
here's my unranked ballot
Helpless Razor LoveDown by the RiverOnly Love Can Break Your HeartCortez the KillerExpecting to FlyThe Old Laughing LadyEverybody Knows This Is NowhereBirdsTime Fades Away
Don't Be DeniedSee The Sky About To RainMotion PicturesAmbulance BluesTired EyesAlbuquerqueDon't Cry No TearsBarstool BluesWill To LovePocahontas
Sedan DeliverySurfer Joe And Moe The SleazeTransformer ManCocaine EyesCountry HomeCrime In The CityGive Me StrengthHarvest MoonPushed It Over The EndDanger Bird
Cowgirl in the SandToo Far GoneLittle WingSpeakin’ OutRevolution BluesMellow My MindOld ManThrough My SailsSafeway Cart No One Seems To Know
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:02 (eleven years ago) link
Here is mine, recommend everyone check out a live "Pushed It Over The End" if you can.
1. Down By The River2. After The Gold Rush3. Revolution Blues4. Ambulance Blues5. Don’t Cry No Tears6. Walk On7. Out On The Weekend8. Pushed It Over The End9. Star of Bethlehem10. Cinnamon Girl11. Only Love Can Break Your Heart12. Danger Bird13. Barstool Blues14. Harvest15. Harvest Moon16. The Needle And The Damage Done17. Round And Round18. Pardon My Heart19. Comes A Time20. Sugar Mountain21. Tell Me Why22. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere23. Don’t Let It Bring You Down24. Mellow My Mind25. Powderfinger26. Pocahontas27. For The Turnstiles28. Don’t Be Denied29. Lotta Love30. Sedan Delivery31. Bad Fog Of Loneliness32. Broken Arrow33. Cortez The Killer34. Motion Pictures35. A Man Needs A Maid36. Give Me Strength37. Old Man38. Down To The Wire39. War Song40. Home On The Range
― grandavis, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
Surprised only one song from Ragged Glory made it...anyway...
1. When You Dance I Can Really Love2. Don't Cry3. Barstool Blues4. After the Gold Rush5. Mr. Soul6. Everybody Knows this is Nowhere7. Come On Baby, Let's Go Downtown8. Tonight's the Night part 19. Cinnamon Girl10. Down By the River11. Country Home12. Ohio13. Guitar Solo No. 514. Eldorado15. Cortez the Killer16. Don't Let it Bring you Down17. Mellow My Mind18. Over and Over19. Cocaine Eyes20. Arc21. Love and Only Love22. Pocahontas23. Lookout Joe24. Heavy Love25. Time Fades Away26. Borrowed Tune27. Rockin' in the Free World28. Thrasher29. Down to the Wire30. Big Time31. Don't Cry No Tears32. Thrasher33. Lookin' for a Love34. Last Dance35. Love and War36. Crime in the City (Sixty to Zero part 1)37. Walk On38. Sedan Delivery39. Powderfinger40. Hangin' on a Limb
― Chuck? Chuck? It's me, your cousin, Marvin D (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
I had Stringman!
1. Winterlong
2. Love Art Blues
3. Ambulance Blues
4. Pocahontas
5. Powderfinger
6. Cinnamon Girl
7. Barstool Blues
8. I’m The Ocean
9. The Needle and the Damage Done
10. Revolution Blues
11. Hey Hey My My (Into the Black)
12. Thrasher
13. On The Way Home
14. Only Love Can Break Your Heart
15. I Believe in You
16. Traces
17. Harvest
18. Heart of Gold
19. Soldier
20. Sleeps With Angels
21. Tired Eyes
22. On The Beach
23. Like a Hurricane
24. Stringman
25. Burned
26. Cocaine Eyes
27. Philadelphia
28. Time Fades Away
29. Everybody Knows This is Nowhere
30. Love In Mind
31. Cripple Creek Ferry
32. Down By The River
33. Birds
34. Cowgirl in the Sand
35. Pushed It Over the End
36. Albuquerque
37. See the Sky About to Rain
38. I’ve Been Waiting for You
39. Don’t Let It Bring You Down
40. Deep Forbidden Lake
and my next 10, which didn't count for the poll, but what the hell:
41. Love Is a Rose
42. Don’t Be Denied
43. Ohio
44. Cortez the Killer
45. My Heart
46. Expecting to Fly
47. Shots
48. Old Ways (specifically the live version from the Shocking Pinks tour with the awesome backing vocals and just Neil on guitar -- SHIT SMOKES!!!)
49. Kinda Fonda Wanda (same as above...)
50. Journey Through the Past
― hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
1. Welfare Mothers2. Sedan Delivery3. Winterlong4. Ambulance Blues5. Cocaine Eyes6. When You Dance I Can Really Love7. I’m The Ocean8. Like an Inca9. Lookin’ for a Love10 Over and Over11. Drive Back12. Round and Round13. Thrasher14. Fuckin’ Up15. Drive By16. Don’t Cry17. Hippie Dream18. Love in Mind19. Comes A Time20. Wrecking Ball21. Don’t Be Denied22. Everyone Knows This is Nowhere23. Barstool Blues24. Powderfinger25. Campaigner26. Goin’ Back27. Safeway Cart28. No More29. Don’t Cry No Tears30. On The Beach
― a regina spektor is haunting europe (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
well I figured this was going to be a poll that got a LOT of votes, and the canonical stuff was gonna get covered no matter what - so I went the strategic voting route and voted for stuff I thought would be underrepresented or could use additional points. just to make things innaresting
although I could totally make an argument that Stringman is genuinely his best/my favorite song - structurally, melodically and lyrically it's a real beauty
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:04 (eleven years ago) link
All unranked. Made the list:
Ambulance BluesDon't Be DeniedDon't Cry No TearsI Believe in YouLook Out for My LoveLookout JoePowderfingerSedan DeliveryTell Me Why
missed out:
Beautiful BluebirdChange Your MindDown to the WireFlying On the Ground Is WrongLittle WingOne of These DaysOrgan Solo (Dead Man)Razor LoveRoger and OutSouthern PacificWonderin'
― boxall, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:06 (eleven years ago) link
yeahhh, so nothing from sleeps with angels made it?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
I had two unreleased cuts on mine... who else voted for anything that isn't out officially anywhere?
― hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
*raises hand*
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:07 (eleven years ago) link
Come Along And Say You Will
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
yeah i had No One Seems To Know, Give Me Strength and Pushed It Over The End
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:08 (eleven years ago) link
I debated long and hard about which outtake to include from yr Sad Movies comp, tyler
― the alternate vision continues his vision quest! (Shakey Mo Collier), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
Down by the River -- 30Walk On -- 25Only Love Can Break Your Heart -- 20Burned -- 15Cowgirl in the Sand -- 15Ohio -- 15Like a Hurricane -- 15Rockin in the Free World -- 10After the Gold Rush --10 Powderfinger -- 10The Needle and the Damage Done -- 10Winterlong -- 10Cinnamon Girl -- 10Hey Hey My My (Into the Black) -- 10Sedan Delivery -- 10On the Beach -- 10Southern Man -- 10Mr. Soul -- 5Thrasher -- 5Moving Pictures -- 5Welfare Mothers -- 5Don't Let It Bring You Down -- 5Long May You Run --5 Heart of Gold --5 Sugar Mountain -- 5The Loner -- 5Helpless -- 5Wrecking Ball -- 5See the Sky About to Rain -- 5Revolution Blues -- 5
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:10 (eleven years ago) link
Pushed It Over The End is actually released though, on a 12" single (!)
― hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
haha, yeah i guess so -- like an italian only CSNY thing?
― tylerw, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:11 (eleven years ago) link
My points were as follows:
25. On The Beach21. I'm The Ocean19. Time Fades Away17. Song X15. Natural Beauty12. Will To Love12. Silver & Gold12. Through My Sails11. Revolution Blues10. Words - Between The Lines Of Age10. Alabama 9. Love And War 9. Southern Man 9. Cowgirl In The Sand 8. Last Dance 8. My My, Hey Hey (Out of the Blue) 8. Crime In The City 7. Ohio 7. Rockin' In The Free World 7. Love In Mind 6. Like A Hurricane 6. Fontainebleau 6. Tell Me Why 5. Goin' Back 5. Midnight On The Bay 5. Everybody Knows This Is Nowhere 4. Human Highway 4. Sample & Hold 4. Don't Let It Bring You Down 4. Computer Age 4. Running Dry (Requiem for the Rockets) 4. A Man Needs A Maid 4. New Mama 4. Surfer Joe & Moe the Sleazebag 4. Hawks & Doves 4. Weight Of The World 4. When I Hold You In My Arms 4. Bandit 4. Southern Pacific 4. High-Flying Bird
Bold didn't place, though I can't remember exactly and may have made an error or two.
― Ismael Klata, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:12 (eleven years ago) link
Alfred I'm glad that despite our differences on the ax epics, we can agree on "Wrecking Ball."
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:13 (eleven years ago) link
― tylerw
Yep, on a one-sided 12" in an Italian box set. I'd bet it's gonna turn up on Archives II though, or the long-rumored live CSNY 1974 set.
― hutlock, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:14 (eleven years ago) link
1. Powderfinger 30The Needle and the Damage Done 25Tonight’s The Night 18I’m The Ocean 17Down By The River 15Walk On 10Tell Me Why 10Pocahontas 10Barstool Blues 10Ordinary People 10Ambulance Blues 8Heart Of Gold 8My My, Hey Hey (Out Of the Blue) 8Thrasher 8Tired Eyes 8After The Gold Rush 8Sugar Mountain 8Helpless 8Lookout Joe 8Lookin’ For A Love 8Look Out For My Love 8Come On Baby Let’s Go Downtown 8Big Time 8Goin’ Home 8Rockin’ In The Free World 8Sedan Delivery 5Cinnamon Girl 5Don’t Be Denied 5Too Far Gone 530. Trans Am 5
― kornrulez6969, Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:15 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks clemenza!
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:19 (eleven years ago) link
30 - Will to Love30 - Ambulance Blues30 - On the Beach15 - Powderfinger15 - Pocahontas10 - Expecting to Fly10 - Sugar Mountain10 - Cortez the Killer10 - Tired Eyes10 - Albuquerque10 - Old Man10 - Heart of Gold10 - Down by the River10 - Tell Me Why10 - Look Out for my love10 - I Believe in You5 - I Am a Child5 - Ohio5 - Peaceful Valley Boulevard5 - Revolution Blues5 - After the Gold Rush5 - Barstool Blues5 - Don't Cry No Tears5 - From Hank to Hendrix5 - Natural Beauty5 - Words5 - Out on the Weekend5 - Like a Hurricane5 - Cinnamon Girl5 - Everybody Knows this is Nowhere
― Mad God 40/40 (Z S), Wednesday, 11 July 2012 19:20 (eleven years ago) link