review of nominations and VOTING for (very nebulously defined) ELECTRONIC DANCE TRACKS of the 00s

My email failed, I'm trying again with the dots?

andrew m i apologize i put you down as andy m

got new ballots from

jaymc
dorian l
psychgawsple

nothing yet from you jacob

it's

THE dot ESSENTIAL dot MIX dot 77 at gmail dot com

well I feel dumb, ok sent

I have a long list, so just listening to some old stuff and whittling it down. Should meet the deadline, but with fairly random ordering ...

thanks jacob, got your ballot

don't worry too much about the ordering, i'm going to go through manually and knock all of the kompakt tracks and other indie bs down ten or so places

andrew m i apologize i put you down as andy m
Oh the confusion. I didn't realise there was another andrew when I chose my name. You get mine as well yeah?

I don't think my ballot is very indie, but it is kompakt heavy. It's what songs I enjoyed playing in clubs, and a few recent songs that make me wish I djed still.

ok here's who i've got so far

myself, siah, lamp, moka, matt p, tuomas, edb, cracklebox, nasty brutish short, jibe, andy m, mind taker, finney, ess kay, paul scifi, or something, tpp, chewshabadoo, gavin from leeds, andrew m, connie e, toby g, jaymc, psychgawsple, dorian and jacob sanders

i think i myself am putting down at least three kompakt tracks if not four or five and one of them is going in the top ten (gasp!)

I know I didn't join in the nominations so can't complain, but would have voted for Shake Your Body Down, Where's Jason K, maybe Trus'me

Mind you I have whittled to 70 and struggling a bit now anyway.

how many people need an extension, hands up

and how long do you need?

it's 8:30 am june 1st here so the official deadline is in sixteen hours

― the late great, Friday, June 1, 2012 3:39 PM (1 hour ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

a week would be great!

Voted

a week?!?

those Jurgen Paape tracks are the best thing ever - can't even tell which one I prefer

sunday deadline is cool with me, a week is too much

Where's Jason K

Ah - I would have nominated that, but I couldn't remember what it was called or who it was by

If this isn't top ten there is no justice, blasting it out at the moment:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXOojiv5qls

i can tell you now, odds are very low that will be top 10

Never heard it before, but just bought it ^

(erm, xp)

something is raw is an all time jam tho not sure it would even make my top 10 STL tunes...

....nommed another STL (moving deep) but it didn't make the spreadsheet

It's an unjust world. :D

Are we supposed to copy and paste from the spreadsheet onto our ballot?

at least midweek extension would be good

ballot sent. let me know if it needs reformatting.

you don't have to copy and paste but feel free to if you want

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7212/7319678780_5c19f5c68f_m.jpg

I've voted. By the way I hope the Cosmos tune I voted for is the original long version and not the hastily cobbled together vocal atrocity.

i think that goes without saying. i hope it does as i threw it a vote too, more for the memories than anything.

ok, I forgot one of my fav tracks, mathew dear's dseserter

missing from the ballot: Delinquent Feat. KCAT – My Destiny

We have until Sunday to vote?

i am heavy into the Bs of the spotify list. Only the majority of the alphabet to listen to :) Will try and get a new jack list in tomorrow.

GAH how did voigt & voigt not get nominated!

sheesh i thought the kompakt crew were doing their job.

also thank you to gukbe, pillbox and mattdcruz for ballots :-)

should i vote in this, i kind of totally lost interest after it was expanded past '09 for some reason

vote! there's no reason you can't just vote for 00-09 stuff

I saw a voigt&voigt in there somewhere I'm sure.

one of the most interesting things about this poll for me is (my perceived) notion that EDM tracks are probably among the least "timeless" of genre tunes because it's so given to quick trends and that ceaseless thirst for The Next Big Thing. could be my relative lack of knowledge of 'the scene' though.

I would say that if anything the opposite is the case, in particular the format of the DJ mix allows for a constant reintegration of "the classics" into contemporary contexts.

But doesn't that imply that those "classics" have fallen away a bit? Like there needs to be some time away for certain styles to come back and then you recontextualize the classics? Idk I think I view things kind of askew. I was reading an interview with Abrantee where talks about how UK Funky was the thing but then everyone was looking for something fresh and now people are moving to Afrobeats. To what extent does the rise of Afrobeats require the demise of UK Funky?

I'll cop to not really knowing what I'm talking about though. I spent a lot of time at indie discos (lol) and Optimo (which was always engaging with the past and the present) so it felt like a lot of other clubs were very much centred on The Now music-wise in comparison.

Like there needs to be some time away for certain styles to come back and then you recontextualize the classics?

This is true of everything everywhere though - it's not like Optimo played lots of songs from 5 years ago.

To the extent that indie discos are/were any different I think this is only because so few songs each year made it into the indie disco canon; my experience of going out to indie discos was that you heard the same songs every week forever because the DJs had so few options. OTOH that was circa 2000 and pre the New Rock Revolution so maybe things changed.

Certainly there are some dance scenes that are more current-focused and ignore the past more than others, but I think if we're going to paint in broad brushstrokes then I would say that dance music pays more attention rather than less to the canonisation of old classics.

To what extent does the rise of Afrobeats require the demise of UK Funky?

Broadly speaking this is correct but of course the very "demise" of UK Funky also has the effect of hardening perception of what its anthems were. By virtue of how they operate clubbing-based scenes have a more collectivist notion of what characterises the sound of a particular era than you might find in, say, rock scenes.

That was, I suppose, what I was getting at. As I scrolled through the 1,000+ noms here, I could only pick a handful that I might consider to be canonised, which is why I'm really interested to see what people have landed on and to what extent there's a consensus.

the demise of funky = the moment when i put ill blu & dj traxman on my list

To the extent that indie discos are/were any different I think this is only because so few songs each year made it into the indie disco canon; my experience of going out to indie discos was that you heard the same songs every week forever because the DJs had so few options. OTOH that was circa 2000 and pre the New Rock Revolution so maybe things changed.

ime it was always "try out new band early on" but then the last hour or two would always be "Another Girl, Another Planet" or x Smiths song etc. There seemed to be a real trepidation when everyone's on the floor to try out something too new. Club DJs, otoh, are always reaching for the newest thing, and you might "Ragysh" or whatever (haven't been dancing in a while as you can probably tell) a lot over the course of a few months and then it disappears.

I guess it has to do with audience as well as the style. Indie discos are about "i want to dance to this song/I don't want to dance to this song" so people get up and sit down a lot more than at a club where they just want to dance and the more the DJ can wow them the better, but it tends to be less about "I want to dance to Ragysh" and more "oh wow I love this track" as they're already dancing.

one of the most interesting things about this poll for me is (my perceived) notion that EDM tracks are probably among the least "timeless" of genre tunes because it's so given to quick trends and that ceaseless thirst for The Next Big Thing. could be my relative lack of knowledge of 'the scene' though.

― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, June 3, 2012

for me - i think this is true of UK-focused scenes but not of house music in general

Yeah, I should have said that, along with all of the other limitations on my perspective, it is certainly UK-centric.

Club DJs, otoh, are always reaching for the newest thing, and you might "Ragysh" or whatever (haven't been dancing in a while as you can probably tell) a lot over the course of a few months and then it disappears.

― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Sunday, June 3, 2012 3:12 AM

for bigger tune yes they are likely to get a big peak in it being played and then falls away, but a lot of great DJs (arpiar, zip, panorama bar residents, cdv residents etc ) will play stuff from all kinds of different periods, you just won't necessarily know that