WAKA

Cmon al, if i had to make that post every time you said you didn't like something...

show me a time when i volunteered a "yeah, still not feeling this guy" type post apropos of nothing, dude

like there's a difference between being willing to share a negative opinion when prompted or when there's some kind of point attached, but what you did is some Shakey Mo shit

Yeah, is there more to the post than not feeling it? Any more details?

how could you be so unfeeling

:| non-feeling it.

oy, well if you must know: what it's apropos of is that i took a half hour last night and reengaged waka (starting with the new music most recently posted in this thread) to see if there was something I had been missing before that I could reassess now. I didn't find it. I know a lot of people whose taste I appreciate really love this guy but I've always found him boring and one-note. The beats are of a school that only rarely connects with me. The energy feels weirdly canned and dazed, like screaming yourself hoarse more on a dare than because you're really feeling it. It's not as if high energy, ign'ant hip hop is foreign or unwelcome to me and it's not as if I'm a snob about crossover rap and dirty south is ABSOLUTELY my bailiwick but this guy's schtick feels unmeasured, ragged and don't move me. I'm reminded more of Khaled than lil jon.

you don't have to like him, it's ok. but is there any radio rapper who's debuted since, say, 2007 that you would say you have "felt"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kMZ23T9VHE

::gives markers a piece of candy, watches him scurry away::

can you give me a better definition of radio rappers or list a few? It's not as if I'm anti vox populi.

cuz the first names that come to mind are like cudi and wale when you say "radio rapper" not so much oj da juiceman

guys who have been on at least one major radio hit, so sure cudi and wale count

current billboard top 100 hiphop artists that i am feeling that are fairly new: future, ab soul, j cole (kinda), odd future, kendrick lamar

cudi and wale suck btw

future and j cole are total radio rappers but i've never heard ab soul or any non-frank ocean member of odd future on the radio, and just started hearing kendrick on the radio for the first time like a week ago

but yeah i mean if you dig future and not waka that's a fair baseline to go on that you're objecting to waka individually and not the whole context he's operating in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7QHA_VOS1s

Those are fair points, I guess. I'm not especially an expert on hip-hop - people's knowledge online continually reminds me of that. I would say that, putting aside being drunk at a party, Waka's persona is actually pretty compelling for me, equally if not more so than his music (if you can separate the two). I can sit through Flockaveli no problems and enjoy if I'm in the mood, but can't really say that for any of the mixtapes. It does relentlessly one-note, Lex Luther-y minimalism, blank-eyed nihilism after a while. Any change in texture is like an oasis in the desert.

There are several words missing in that last post. It's late in the afternoon and I'm halfway through a 500ml can of 'power booster energy drink', apologies ;)

i was not a huge fan of Waka's first few singles or Lex Luger beats in general and thought the enthusiasm around "Hard In Da Paint" felt a little forced, but Flockaveli is a dope album, have to respect anytime an artist can the best case scenario debut album out of being themselves

Re: Luther beats - also why I put up that Foreign Shit track, it's good to hear him on another style. Didn't know the source of it, so cheers sisilafami.

Another moment of different styles:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PDq4zD6whFo

looking forward to this album... tracklist is pretty promising

also IT HAS A PLIES FEATURE

also a dj speedy beat

a song called "rooster in my rari"

!

it's been a really good year for rap so far and if this album comes thru and the travis porter album comes thru... could be the best year for rap full lengths in like 5 years

yeah it's kind of nice the way ATL is running shit again, if even one of the Waka/Travis Porter/T.I./2 Chainz albums is as dope as the Future album it'll be a pretty crazy year for the city

dirty south is ABSOLUTELY my bailiwick

sorry that just sounded funny

lol :-)

WAKAAAAAAAAAAA

i love the Future album & am hopeful about the Travis Porter, but I don't really like the single off the Waka at all, 2 Chainz is a funny lyricist with a pretty blank story & mediocre hit/miss ratio, i havent heard a good t.i. track in years. no one is really engaging me as a personality out of Atlanta right now at all.

yeah i'm not saying we're in for 5 definite masterpieces, just that odds are at least 2 or 3 will be above average major label rap albums

It's my bailiwick, what can i tell you

also lol @ deej worrying about whether a rapper has a discernable posting style "story"

"wake up" is so good they sound great on that kind of beat, love ice burgundy's verse (fsr uncredited?)

2 chainz engaging me as a dope rapper

'no discernable posting style' is like an ebony eyez level zing at this pt

2 chainz has had some great verses recently no doubt. i just find it hard to care about him -- the way u could get invested in who gucci was or who t.i. was

i know it matters to you whether a rapper has been to jail/held a gun but wow didn't think you'd be that transparent about it

the t.i. mixtape definitely has some songs that border on great imo

killer mike should not be forgotten amongs all the atl rappers.

i know it matters to you whether a rapper has been to jail/held a gun but wow didn't think you'd be that transparent about it

― some dude, Friday, May 18, 2012 12:41 PM (47 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

the fuck? thats not what i said at all

like, i dont care if tity boi's story is that he was the real rick ross or that he ran a titty bar, but the idea that your perception of an artist's bio doesnt enter into what you get from the music is denial. i mean, its a part of all the things ppl talk about when they talk about rap--like, t.i. dissing flip is as much about what happened off-record as it is what happened on.

lol it'd be great if he was the owner and proprietor of Tity Bar

otm

the song featuring plies is good

http://www.dirtyglovebastard.net/?p=51411

lol "ft. algernod" always kills me

yeah thats dope, so is the new gucci/2chainz

plies sounds like he wants to be gunplay

i'm okay with that