Welcome to the ILX-men, Kitty Pryde.
― Tim F, Monday, 14 May 2012 07:55 (twelve years ago) link
delete this post and close the thread with that line
― abcfsk, Monday, 14 May 2012 08:31 (twelve years ago) link
that said, i recall your advocacy of the paris hilton album on ILM as the point that i started to not be on board w/ popism anymore and i really started to feel like supporting particular stuff just to make a populist critical statement was actually a thing, not that i'm saying i have proof that's what you were up to, but just that i started to suspect that this might be lurking just under the surface of the nylpm "everything is great!" stance.
but i have no idea why anyone would think people would like something just to prove a point, or be unable to see why people would take offence at that charge. there's tons of music i think obviously sucks but i don't go around accusing bob dylan or beatles fans of fronting, i just think they have shitty taste. in most of these discussions i read more words and arguments by fans of [paris hilton] or [kitty pryde] or whoever and to respond like you & others do "they're just pretending, this sucks because it sucks and i don't even need to explain why" is inadequate
nb i still love the paris hilton album. such a likeable record
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:03 (twelve years ago) link
but you sort of do accuse them of fronting when you say "serious dude music", if i read you correctly you're accusing people of liking music for gravitas rather than on aesthetic grounds
― the late great, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:14 (twelve years ago) link
i like one song on paris hilton's album, I think it had stars in the title
― the late great, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
can't say i much care for the rest but i did watch both seasons of her mtv show and i think she's smart and funny though nicole ritchie runs laps around her in that category
― the late great, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:17 (twelve years ago) link
yeah! well you've also got "suicide" as merely "stupid pride", a somewhat hardline xtian sentiment which that indeed daring pantheism x astrology "gods are crazy / stars are blind" double whammy immediately vexes. and then yr everyday manichaean "be the devil and angel too" chaser. paris milton more like.
― rtccc (mwah), Sunday, 27 August 2006 01:17 (5 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:18 (twelve years ago) link
i liked the assembly line Dr. Luke song from the Paris Hilton record that literally anybody could have sung exactly as well
― contendo entertainment system (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:19 (twelve years ago) link
got a lot of love for rtc (and you too lex, secretly) but not enough to get me on board
and yes, stars are blind
― the late great, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
haha the top 10 most popular search results for 'Paris Hilton' in Spotify are 50% songs by Paris, 50% songs with titles that reference her by Lil B, CSS, Vincent Gallo and Maybeshewill
― contendo entertainment system (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:22 (twelve years ago) link
tbh faking enthusiasm for something i'm not that into just to make a "point" seems like it would be a lot of work and effort. and i'm not sure anyone can tear into shit pop quite as harshly as true pop fans.
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:26 (twelve years ago) link
how is it not a million times worse to suggest that someone likes a particular artist because they're a pedophile than because they're trying to make a political/cultural point?
― Mordy, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:28 (twelve years ago) link
tbh faking enthusiasm for something i'm not that into just to make a "point" seems like it would be a lot of work and effort
i think some people are genuine enthusiastic about challops
uh nobody i know though
― the late great, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:34 (twelve years ago) link
i have a personal policy of taking people at face value about their taste and not second-guessing their intentions, but some folks definitely do make that nearly impossible to stick to
― contendo entertainment system (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
it's bc we live in a Challopitalistic society
― Mordy, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:36 (twelve years ago) link
I am listening to Angel Haze today
― dayo, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:38 (twelve years ago) link
her new mixtape's great, as good as she is at the cosmic love stuff i wish she'd go harder more often though
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
got 20 seconds into okay cupid before i had to turn it off. does any of it have delivery with any real oomph to it or is it all that lilting valley girl thing?
― one dis leads to another (ian), Monday, 14 May 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
some dude OTM
― the late great, Monday, 14 May 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
it's all that lilting teenspeak thing. that's what keeps me from liking it, but it's also what keeps me from condemning it.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:21 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Monday, May 14, 2012 8:38 AM (42 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― liberté, égalité, beyoncé (lex pretend), Monday, May 14, 2012 8:40 AM (40 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
distressing implication. i don't like the cosmic love stuff much. only songs i really dig on altered ego are the one's where she's in full, fire-breathing attack mode.
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
paris milton!
― horseshoe, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:23 (twelve years ago) link
rtc is great
― horseshoe, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
when i was in 9th or 10th grade some friends from school had a rap group called Bubble Up, four official members: MC Delta T (that name was some math equation or something), The Lyrical Miracle, and the Nicarguan Nightmare (he wasn't from nicaragua, the name came from this sketch on SNL where white people in a newsroom overpronounced spanish words like Nicaragua or Me-hee-coh or Doritos, they loved that sketch a lot)...
the "DJ" was a kid that played in a death metal band - DJ Dominator -- he was into Morbid Angel and Deicide, etc but he was the one who could kind of play keyboards and so he became the DJ...he just used preset beats and then played stuff over it...
they did a whole "album" (cassette), I can't remember all the songs, there was "Littabugs" (kind of based off of 100 Miles and Runnin' by NWA, it had the fake "police CB" banter between verses about how they were on the tail of some "hardcore littabugs" who were driving all over littering"....there was "Workin' At the Seed Farm" (Lyrical's dad owned seed farm where they grew seed corn for Dekalb I think, and 2 of them worked there)....and "Genocide on Wells" (Wells was a neighboring town and it was about killing the Wells mens tennis team - they all played tennis)...and "He's Gay" (diss track about a guy named Steve)....and "Bitch Patrol (feat. MC Peanut Gallery)"...(i dunno they basically just called ppl bitches)...and "Heist at the Easton Bank" (another crime one, but they were robbing a bank in this super tiny town of like 300 ppl)....
I did a guest verse on the posse cut "Rap Casserole" (My name was MC Escher)....my cameo was widely thought to have stolen the show....my money like was "I got money in the bank/I got girls on my dick/I got a lifetime subscription to Ranger Rick"....the beat was just DJ Dominator replaying the bassline to "Brick House" by the Commodores on a Casio keyboard....
anyway, I just remembered all this and I thought I'd write it out...this seemed like the best thread for it.
I'm really glad YouTube didn't exist then.
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:24 (twelve years ago) link
oh there was another song called "Kickin' the Saffapants"...which was about wearing MC Hammer pants, they called those type of pants "Saffapants" because they misheard "dance how they want to dance, kick and then slap a friend" part from "Adamm's Groove" by MC Hammer as "Kickin' the saffapants" so they started calling MC Hammer pants that
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:26 (twelve years ago) link
MC escher
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
causin' pressure
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
no one fresher
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:36 (twelve years ago) link
the impossible sketcher
― dayo, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:38 (twelve years ago) link
with loops of pleasure
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
m@tt you're telling me your DJ wasn't called "DJ Tanner" like the character from Full House? that's the only thing about the story i don't believe.
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
create lines you can't measure
― the late great, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
I knew there had to be some payoff for reading 476 posts about Kitty Pryde, and M@tt's story was it. A+, MC Escher!
― Advanced Uncle Meat recovery system (Dan Peterson), Monday, 14 May 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
M@tt wasn't Bubble Up's big hit "Drawin' Blood"? Abt excessive jerking off?
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but this is enthusiasm about the doing of the challop rather than the holding of it, I think.
― Tim F, Monday, 14 May 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
"Genocide on Wells" (Wells was a neighboring town and it was about killing the Wells mens tennis team - they all played tennis)...and "He's Gay" (diss track about a guy named Steve)
totally dying
― goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:01 (twelve years ago) link
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, May 14, 2012 11:52 AM (13 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
oh god yeah haha that was the shock rap one....bubble up enters a jerking off competition and pushes themselves past the uh limit:
"drawin' bloodno pain, no gaintakin' one for the teamgoin' waaaay paaast cream"
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
that reminds me of a thread i've been meaning to start
(uh not about beating off)
― goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
"Goin' way past cream" is a top ten song lyric ever
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
they did a whole "album" (cassette)
Please mediafire this cassette album. Thanks.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:10 (twelve years ago) link
im pretty enthusiastic about challops but it`s easier & more fun to challop irl than on ilx
― flopson, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
sadly i think it's a lost album at this point
― Bandersnatch Cumberbund (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
also it's probably better to read about than listen to - just like kitty pryde!
well, except that it's actually fun to read about
― The term or title antichrist, in Christian theology, refers to (contenderizer), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:14 (twelve years ago) link
raps that you composed for school or while young
― goole, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:26 (twelve years ago) link
― flopson, Monday, May 14, 2012 1:11 PM (20 minutes ago) Bookmark
this is kind of a truth bomb
― dayo, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:32 (twelve years ago) link
not sure i agree with that
― the late great, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
you can definitely present CHALLENGING OPINIONS as an entertaining and possibly edifying conversation-starter irl, whereas if you do it on ilx you just get shouted down or zinged from all sides, whether deservingly or not
― kitty shayme (some dude), Monday, 14 May 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
you can definitely present CHALLENGING OPINIONS as an entertaining and possibly edifying conversation-starter irl
i think you can do that on ilx too, like especially if your name is dave q or whatever
― the late great, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:42 (twelve years ago) link
i admire & probably try to emulate the way characters in whit stillman movies challop, sort of fabulist or whimsical, but seductive. "you don't have to read a book to have an opinion" or the thing about clichés in the newest one. otoh i've probably done more than my share of, like, drunkenly defending early nickelback singles or something equally heinous
― flopson, Monday, 14 May 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link