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― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 22:54 (twelve years ago) link
all classic, not even 33% dod
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 23:43 (twelve years ago) link
Oh I know, it'll be on my ballot. It's just, hearing it now it's hard to shake the knowledge of what's to come.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 8 May 2012 23:52 (twelve years ago) link
i can't understand complaints* about PB (*please don't try to explain them to me.) i love it from start to finish. then again i feel the same about CYH and hello nasty.
― omar little, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 00:39 (twelve years ago) link
b-b-but i'm prepared to elaborate
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 01:21 (twelve years ago) link
re: the Paul's Boutique backlash, it's really interesting to see how the Beasties' longterm fanbase slowly formed and rallied around that album in the 90s via RIAA certifications
1986-87: Licensed To Ill goes platinum 4 times over1989: Paul's Boutique just goes gold1990-1991: no new album sales certifications for either1992: Check Your Head goes platinum1994: Ill Communication goes platinum1995: Paul's Boutique finally goes platinum1998-1999: Hello Nasty goes triple platinum and every earlier album racks up at least another million sales, including Paul's Boutique
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 01:37 (twelve years ago) link
Weird. I don't guess I ever realized Hello Nasty was the one that pushed them into the stratosphere. They were much more omnipresent in pop culture between CYH and IC. I'd just assumed each of those albums went multiplatinum nearly immediately.
(I do remember Paul's Boutique sort of tarnishing them for a couple years, though.)
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 01:39 (twelve years ago) link
actually, i skimmed over the fact that Ill Communication went 2x plat in 1996, but still
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 01:41 (twelve years ago) link
1996-98 was also of course the era when Odelay came out and people started talking about the Dust Bros. and Paul's Boutique a lot, and there were a ton of white rap/rock acts suddenly all over alternative radio that the Beasties kind of became the de facto elder statesmen of it. it felt like they really became more central to that audience then than in the first half of the '90s when they had this kind of awkward tertiary role in the Lollapalooza era.
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 01:44 (twelve years ago) link
The Beasties had found their moment in the late nineties. Hello Nasty felt bigger than IC even if you didn't know its sales figures.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
I don't guess I ever realized Hello Nasty was the one that pushed them into the stratosphere. They were much more omnipresent in pop culture between CYH and IC.
I know these things are hard to quantify -- I didn't have MTV in the nineties so their video presence escaped me. I did however listen to college and top 40 radio and "Intergalactic"'s #28 or whatever chart position (their first top 40 hit since "Hey Ladies") sold them short. It was truly massive -- the song of the summer.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 01:48 (twelve years ago) link
As much as I heard "Sabotage" and "Get It Together" on college radio "Intergalactic" really crossed over -- and during that strange late nineties interzone when singles were getting phased out. That's probably what stopped it from charting higher.
BB were also a quintessential MTV band, "Sabotage" and a lot of their other best known songs felt way bigger because of their videos than their chart/radio numbers would indicate
― some dude, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 01:51 (twelve years ago) link
I remember Hello Nasty getting a lot of spins at parties, like, the whole album almost --- whereas PB, CYH, and IC it was always certain tracks. I dunno if that was just because as a group we totally were feeling that excitment of a Beasties album release that we could all finally share as a group, and we latched harder to it than ever out of sheer enthusiasm, but it was fun. The prev albums definitely felt *cooler*, and they always had that cache, but Hello Nasty was just a straight up and down fun album, start to finish.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 01:57 (twelve years ago) link
1996-98 was also of course the era when Odelay came out and people started talking about the Dust Bros. and Paul's Boutique a lot, and there were a ton of white rap/rock acts suddenly all over alternative radio that the Beasties kind of became the de facto elder statesmen of it.
otm
Ill Communication came out in 1994 and it was four years before Hello Nasty. In that period, 11 year olds became 15 year olds (like myself) and overground "Alternative" culture widened from a guitar rock only thing to encompass Beck, Portishead, Astralwerks electronica, Daft Punk and of course Radiohead release OK Computer in 1997. The CD era was in full swing and I think people were just ready for an album like Hello Nasty to conquer the world. Depending on when you came up, you have different touchstones for the Beasties but for me and my high school buddies HN is the album.
― Badmotorfinger Debate Club (MFB), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:10 (twelve years ago) link
yeah after 4 years there was a lot of pent up demand for new beasties material from several successive waves of new fans in '98. I was on a beastie boys listserv just prior to hello nasty, that thing fucking exploded when the album dropped.
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:18 (twelve years ago) link
weird that so many see nasty as a (or the!) key beasties album, cuz as a license-era fan, it definitely felt like an afterthought, the first indication that their career might be winding down. i don't think i knew anybody who rated it alongside the first three. what i get for being old...
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:26 (twelve years ago) link
I was twelve when LTI dropped and while I loved it I wasn't fan enough to buy PB until CYH. I was ready for HN.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:30 (twelve years ago) link
Hello Nasty was so ubiquitous that someone gave it to me as a birthday present. Not even a close friend, just somebody who came to a party and was like "Oh, I got you that new Beastie Boys album," just assuming I'd want it, because who wouldn't?
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:36 (twelve years ago) link
I was 21, it was just a convergence of good friends, good timing, right place...and we worshipped IC, just to be clear. It wasn't that HN was better, it was just...right?
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:46 (twelve years ago) link
and it really felt like the right album at the right time: the evolution of thinking in alterna-culture that some dude metnioned, late nineties prosperity, good times.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:48 (twelve years ago) link
Beasties worship was at its highest point right around that time too, I would suggest.
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
I became a fan of the beasties after seeing "she's on it" on a public access rap video show in '85, and thought hello nasty was a nice return to dance party form after the doped up headbob of CYH and IC (both of which I liked but never loved)
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, exactly. You had the convergence of people who'd grown up with them in the rap-rock years and the older contingent (like me) who'd evolved from seeing them as kind of a funny novelty thing to appreciating them as a musical force. And Hello Nasty plugged them back into 808 hip-hop at a moment when that was ready to come back around.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
thought hello nasty was a nice return to dance party form after the doped up headbob of CYH and IC (both of which I liked but never loved)
yeah, it's funny that i've wound up with so much long-term affection for check your head, cuz it's not like i was seriously into it at the time, didn't buy a copy until years later. i LOVED license to ill in college and dug paul's boutique okay, but i'd kind of moved onto other things by the time CYH came out. was all srs about noise and fucked up punk/metal/drone shit like melvins, boredoms, skullflower, high rise & c. a bunch of my sketchy metal & weedhead friends however were just fucking crazy about that album, played it all the fucking time for months on end.
i liked check your head and i didn't, resisted as best i could, but it eventually just got drilled into my skull. unlike a lot of stuff that i endured by virtue of proximity during that era, i've got no lingering resentment. stockholm syndrome, i guess. i have to admit, though, that CYH probably does bear a lot of responsiblity for the infatuation w rap-rock that consumed so much of the 90s - much more so than "no sleep til brooklyn". the beasties were a one-band judgement night soundtrack for a while there...
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link
licensed, that is
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:30 (twelve years ago) link
^that's all otm
hello nasty sounded like a return to the street/futuristic after the grungy/organic previous 2 albs - lotsa active MPC/SP12/808 crazyquilt and a dedicated front-and-center DJ, I dunno it scratched an itch
fwiw my track ballot breakdown went like this
pre-Licensed to Ill - 2Licensed to Ill - 4Paul's Boutique - 6 Check Your Head - 2 Ill Communication - 2 Hello Nasty - 4
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 03:31 (twelve years ago) link
for your consideration:
Stand TogetherLighten UpLooking Down The Barrel Of A Gun
― sleeve, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
The guitar(?) sound on Stand Together is fucking rad and abrasive, almost Albini-esque. Also, MCA was ON FUCKING FIRE in that one.
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:16 (twelve years ago) link
it is like the secret weapon track on CYH, total grower.
― sleeve, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
gtr at coda of looking down the barrel of a gun is alltime
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, i skipped "stand together" in my CYH shout-out, but it's gunning hard for a place in my 20
and "looking down the barrel of a gun" is a lock (different album tho)
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:24 (twelve years ago) link
looking down the barrel is all-time
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
Songs I always skip:
Shadrach
something terribly wrong with this picture
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
the brash truncation of that mountain sample speaks volumes
xp
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
Then, by the time Check Your Head came out, I was playing punk in my own garage bands and at least starting to hang around with stoners although not yet actually smoking pot. And it's just a mega album for that kind of aesthetic.
― how's life, Tuesday, May 8, 2012 4:19 AM (17 hours ago)
otm about this though (or was in 92)
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:35 (twelve years ago) link
CYH sounds like a skatepark, HN sounds like a disco
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:42 (twelve years ago) link
CYH still my favourite.
― Fas Ro Duh (Gukbe), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:45 (twelve years ago) link
wait... skip Shadrach?
SAY WHAT NOW
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:49 (twelve years ago) link
so many great lines in shadrach, it's like the end of blues brothers but with rhymes instead of cars
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
ohteeem
also awesome dancefloor track, was a staple at all the houseparties I went to in college
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
vocal sample plus that bass line
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:53 (twelve years ago) link
I mean...
Riddle me this brother can you handle itYour style to my style you can't hold a candle to itEquinox symmetry and the balance is rightSmokin' and drinkin' on a Tuesday nightIt's not how you play the game it's how you win itI cheat and steal and sin and I'm a cynicFor those about to rock we salute youThe dirty thoughts for dirty minds we contribute toI once was lost but now I'm foundThe music washes over and you're one with the soundWell who shall inherit the earth the meek shallAnd yo, I think I'm starting to peak now AlAnd the man upstairs I hope that he caresIf I had a penny for my thoughts I'd be a millionaireWe're just 3 M.C.'s and we're on the goSHADRACH MESACH ABEDNAGO
Only 24 hours in a dayOnly 12 notes well a man can playMusic for all and not just one peopleAnd now we're gonna bust with the Putney Swope sequelMore Adidas sneakers that a plumber got pliersGot more suits than Jacoby & MeyersIf not for my vices my bugged out desiresMy year would be good just like Goodyear's tiresSo I'm out pickin' pockets at the Atlantic AnticAnd nobody wants to hear you cause your rhymes are Anne franticI mix business with pleasure way too muchI mean wine and women and song and suchI don't get blue I gotta mean red streakYou don't pay the band, your friends, and that's weakGet even like Steven like pulling a RamboSHADRACH MESACH ABEDNAGO
Steal from the rich and I'm out robbing banksGivin' to the poor and I always give thanksBecause I got more stories that J.D.'s got SalingerI hold the title and you are the challengerI've got money like Charles DickensGot the girlies in the Coupe like the Colonel's got the chickensAlways go out dapper like the Harry S. TrumanI'm madder than Mad's Alfred E. Newman
*Never gonna let them say that I don't love you*
Well, my noggin is hoggin' all kinds of thoughtsAdam Yoggin is Yauch and he's rockin of courseSmoke the holy chalice got my own religionRally round the stage and check the funky dope musiciansLike Jerry Lee Swaggert or Jerry Lee FalwellYou love Mario Andretti cause he always drives his car wellVicious circle of reality since the day you were bornAnd we love the hot butter on what the popcornSippin on wine and mackinRockin on the stage with all the hands clappinRide the wave of fate it don't ride me*Being very proud to be an M.C.*And the man upstairs I hope that he caresIf I had a penny for my thoughts I'd be a millionaireAmps and crossovers under my rear hoodThe bass is bumpin from the back of my FleetwoodThey tell us what to do hell noSHADRACH MESACH ABEDNAGO
― Peppermint Patty Hearst (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 04:56 (twelve years ago) link
yes
― sleeve, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:01 (twelve years ago) link
shit yeah, my favorite lyrics on PB
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:02 (twelve years ago) link
now let's talk about how wrong it is to skip the sound of science
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:02 (twelve years ago) link
This analogy is so OTFM
― Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:03 (twelve years ago) link
^ yeah, i was kind of jealous of that one
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
And nobody wants to hear you cause your rhymes are Anne frantic
A+++++++++
lol, yeah, descending order of nonsense
― 10. “Pour Some Sugar On Me” – Tom Cruise (contenderizer), Wednesday, 9 May 2012 05:06 (twelve years ago) link