i could mostly give less of a fuck about the bobbins thread :/
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:07 (twelve years ago) link
i don't see the point in having seperate polls tho
i mean, i think v's original formulation is pretty straightforward
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:08 (twelve years ago) link
Books Shade - Night Falls
― pattern loader, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:12 (twelve years ago) link
Booka (stupid auto-correct)
― pattern loader, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:13 (twelve years ago) link
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:07 AM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
but i want to see what are the top PURE house/techno tracks according to ILM :((((((((((((((((
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:16 (twelve years ago) link
I fart in your PURE.
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
Each and Everyone (Blindhouse Mix) - AdaAlways - Midi RainFaith (Jazzanova mix) Amp FiddlerParis (Aeroplane Mix) Friendly FiresPerfect Lovers (Unperfect Mix) Phantom Ghost
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
Fuckpony - Ride The Pony
― pattern loader, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:20 (twelve years ago) link
― hologram ned raggett (The Reverend), Thursday, April 19, 2012 5:20 AM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
looollll. ok, what about house/techno and anything closely related? it means no dnb, breaks, dubstep (ouch), etc.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:25 (twelve years ago) link
would also mean about 75% of trax already nommed would be out
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:27 (twelve years ago) link
What Else Is There (Trentemøller Mix) Röyksopp
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:28 (twelve years ago) link
Matias Aguayo -Minimal (Dj Koze Remix)
― pattern loader, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:29 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really get why you would exclude UK Funky and include Ferrer.
In that case it's as logical to say "no techno not from detroit".
― Tim F, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:30 (twelve years ago) link
Not that I really care but i think if you're gonna be restrictive then you should have a think about what the biases really are.
if this is really about "middle class refined house and techno only please" then say so.
― Tim F, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:31 (twelve years ago) link
more like 75% of the trax already nommed are fitting enough. 85%, even.
xpost
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
i like the idea of an all encompassing electronic dance music poll of the 00s
― JacobSanders, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:36 (twelve years ago) link
Audion - Mouth to MouthMatthew Jonson - Marionette
― pattern loader, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:38 (twelve years ago) link
I'd just say to hell with it and let the voters decide which tracks are house/techno related and which are not. We're cool enough to do that, right? About Dennis Ferrer, I don't understand what's the deal. Yes, maybe his tracks get played by uk funky dj's but his tracks are house, no doubt about it.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:39 (twelve years ago) link
i'm also still trying to grasp this tying of ferrer to funky rather than mainstream house archetypes and it isn't happening at all
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:42 (twelve years ago) link
Shackleton - Blood On My Hands (Ricardo Villalobos Remix)
― pattern loader, Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:42 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's best to have a wide range of noms, and people can decide for themselves what they consider to fit under the umbrella. If only because I think this Dennis Ferrer/UK Funky v House thing would be just the tip of the iceberg.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:44 (twelve years ago) link
also I'm well excited for this. thanks lg!
and what kind of umbrella is it?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
Well the umbrella would presumably be "electronic dance tracks of the 00s"
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:51 (twelve years ago) link
also is this 2000-2009?
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Thursday, 19 April 2012 05:52 (twelve years ago) link
if that's the umbrella then I don't see any debate about what fits and what doesn't.
let's make it 2000-now.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:05 (twelve years ago) link
exactly
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:09 (twelve years ago) link
yeah I was just citing it as an example.
But if you can't see why saying "The Cure & The Cause" is in but "Do You Mind" is out is thoroughly inconsistent then you do not have ears.
― Tim F, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:15 (twelve years ago) link
I'm not the kind of person who typically says "screw genre it's all a big free for all" but I thinkl there are loads of fairly dodgy assumptions behind running "house / techno" together as if "we all know" what kind of music this means.
― Tim F, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:16 (twelve years ago) link
ok then, so not to waste any more time, let's make this an EDM poll. stuff like Rapture, LCD Soundsystem, M.I.A. don't count right? please, at least you guys can agree with me on this, lol.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:18 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i would assume that. remixes are fine though.
― stay in school if you want to kiw (Gukbe), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:19 (twelve years ago) link
what about edits?
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:23 (twelve years ago) link
if anyone wants to nominate tessio then please state which version.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:28 (twelve years ago) link
i think there are def rapture and LCD tracks (i need love, someone great) that are as housey as, say, superpitcher's mix of "the dream of evan and chan". i loathe that track but i bet it will place.
but yeah, i imagine that "house of jealous lovers" is out
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:30 (twelve years ago) link
disco edits?? that def seems out IMO.
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:31 (twelve years ago) link
but, but, they are like...bands.
yes, like tiger and woods.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:36 (twelve years ago) link
my motive for wanting to include stuff like funky, ukg, dubstep, etc is just to make a more interesting poll and to include more diverse voices while still keeping the logical consistency of ok, these are all musics we can trace back to, or i dunno, maybe just essentially indebted to mr fingers and kevin saunderson (even drum and bass)
it's probably why i prefer RA's end of year roundup to LWE's, or pitchfork's to terrorizer's or CMJ's
what's the argument for purity?
would a workable compromise be to do an all-inclusive poll and then release the data and allow people to figure out separate "house only" or "techno only" rankings by throwing out shit they don't like?
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:38 (twelve years ago) link
don't see why some m.i.a. couldn't be considered if someone wanted. pull up the people rather than than paper planes, for example
― fauxmarc, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:41 (twelve years ago) link
i think part of the point of a nominations process is to exclude tracks that don't meet the criteria at this stage, and by "don't meet the criteria" i'd say anything where the nominator is obviously stretching a point. UKG etc. are fine in this context imo cos at least one of their ancestors is Detroit.
― aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:44 (twelve years ago) link
inner city and fingers inc were bands too!!
edits are really sticky territory
i really have no desire to be a gatekeeper or editor, i'm down to tabulate and do logistical stuff but deciding why theo's ugly edits or soul clap's garbage edits make the cut but magnetic man is (as obama put it) "above my pay grade"
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:44 (twelve years ago) link
maybe shd set a threshhold based on BPM
― aboulia banks (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link
"why magnetic man *doesn't* is"
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:46 (twelve years ago) link
Wouldn't have thought the dntel remix would place for superpitcher, too many other better tracks.
― I'm going to allow this! (LocalGarda), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:47 (twelve years ago) link
but they're electronic bands. whereas rapture and lcd are more like rock/indie bands to me.
― dan138zig (Durrr Durrr Durrrrrr), Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:48 (twelve years ago) link
there's probably only around a hundred - should have just listed them all in the OP would have all the important ones mostly
― coal, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:49 (twelve years ago) link
uh not sure that bpm thing is a good rule
FWIW i think it would be much much much much much better to
1) quit bitching
2) nominate your tracks
3) look at the final list
4) investigate tracks you think are suspect
5) resume the bitchfest about it *after* people nominate stuff you don't like
afaict everything nominated so far is more or less kosher so let's give the process the benefit of the doubt for now and get on with it, we can draw lines in the sand later
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:51 (twelve years ago) link
think most of them are already here but i think we forgetting something - what we forgetting man?
lb bad - the true story of house music
― coal, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:53 (twelve years ago) link
oops didnt notice it said 00s
replace with
craig alexander - soul revival
not sure what you're saying coal but if you think you know the top 100 tracks already you're welcome to nominate them here
― the late great, Thursday, 19 April 2012 06:53 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks NickB for building up that spotify playlist
― Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Saturday, 5 May 2012 20:42 (twelve years ago) link
Erm.... just a link here for anyone else (like me) who wasn't aware of the new thread:review of nominations and VOTING for (very nebulously defined) ELECTRONIC DANCE TRACKS of the 00s
― Pacific Trash Vortex (Nasty, Brutish & Short), Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
thank you NBS
― the late great, Thursday, 10 May 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link