https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uvwl7INZykc
― lebron traveled (am0n), Wednesday, 18 April 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
This album is great great great. Love how relatively big the choruses and production are. Every song feels like an all-out attempt to top "Fade Into You" in the hearts and minds of the public. A couple of them out-M83 M83, too.
― Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
I burned out on this quickly...
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 30 April 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
Damn, that's my fear. I worry about how any album that's so instantly absorbing can hold up over the long haul (especially since much of the appeal of Teen Dream was how that album really, really took its time).
Either way, though, I'm loving the album now, so that's worth something
― Evan R, Monday, 30 April 2012 20:40 (twelve years ago) link
the label had some shit luck with the release of this record. I don't even think it's out yet and it feels like everyone has had it for months.
― UnderControl, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:02 (twelve years ago) link
"I burned out on this quickly...
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn),"
me too, BUT i returned to it afterwards again. great record, for the most part.
― nostormo, Tuesday, 1 May 2012 00:19 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.npr.org/2012/05/06/151227631/first-listen-beach-house-bloom?ps=mh_fl
― am0n, Monday, 7 May 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
this plus 1/2 bottle of wine is like being shot up with morphine pretty much. wanna question quality of music, but the experience feels so good that i don't care.
― a single goddamn marshmallow fucked me for LIFE (Hunt3r), Friday, 11 May 2012 04:48 (twelve years ago) link
ALBUM OF THE YEAR
― Bee OK, Friday, 11 May 2012 06:53 (twelve years ago) link
so far...
Better live than I expected -- the new material sounds great.
― Brad C., Sunday, 13 May 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
so this is really pretty
― Mordy, Wednesday, 16 May 2012 23:34 (twelve years ago) link
This is pretty shameless:
http://pitchfork.com/news/46564-beach-house-ripped-off-by-british-car-ad/
― Get wolves (DL), Friday, 18 May 2012 12:47 (twelve years ago) link
I've liked what i've heard of them on WFMU, but I burn out on albums before I hear them.
― World Congress of Itch (Dr Morbius), Friday, 18 May 2012 14:06 (twelve years ago) link
^i've got sympathy for the musicians who were hired to do that ad. in my imagination the car company execs used the original as a reference and asked them to do something in a similar style, which they did in a non-plagiaristic way, then got asked for revisions because "can you make it sound more like the other song?" seen it happen with friends who do this kind of work.
― 40oz of tears (Jordan), Friday, 18 May 2012 14:51 (twelve years ago) link
until they give kendra smith some $ they can stfu
― mexican sumner (electricsound), Friday, 18 May 2012 14:53 (twelve years ago) link
are beach house going to fall forever in the same category as spoon and the national by making lovely, critic friendly and appreciated records without ever changing style in any way?it's all good and nice, but it just seems like no progression at all here (not always a be all and end all obvs).
― nathey, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:08 (twelve years ago) link
I like them and this one is their best but I can't imagine getting excited about them; they're a really good minor band.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 18 May 2012 15:12 (twelve years ago) link
VW ad track is better than "Take Care" imo.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:15 (twelve years ago) link
^ i've got sympathy for the musicians who were hired to do that ad.
Me, none. If you can't plagiarize gracefully, you should get out of the commercial music racket. It's possible that BH were contacted about a licence, but didn't wish to affiliate one of their more 'personal' songs with a car company. Now, the damage has been done regardless.
― poxen, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:42 (twelve years ago) link
To my ears, this commercial "cover" doesn't sound any more like "Take Care" than fifty other proper originals released by blog hype bands. In fact, the VW track actually reminds me more of some subtle Arcade Fire stuff.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 15:46 (twelve years ago) link
Or, even more than that, The Walkmen.
Ouch.
― MikoMcha, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:00 (twelve years ago) link
Bloom sounds like Teen Dream only on first listening.actually,although it resemble it, it's poppier, and more polished.
― nostormo, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:15 (twelve years ago) link
To my ears, this commercial "cover" doesn't sound any more like "Take Care" than fifty other proper originals released by blog hype bands.
If you're joking, then "lol, right", but otherwise "?" The VW song is a straight-up lift, there's nothing to distinguish it.
― poxen, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:27 (twelve years ago) link
The melodies and instrumentation are largely dissimilar. Maybe the "vibe" is the same, but big deal. That vibe is all over the fucking place the last few years.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:31 (twelve years ago) link
I mean, there's a closer resemblance between "Ghostbusters" and "I Want a New Drug" than this VW song and "Take Care".
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:33 (twelve years ago) link
it's only just close enough to avoid litigation (& i'm sure VW did some research into that) to say it's superior is just challops.
― jed_, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
to say it's superior is just challops
A challop? Maybe. But an op all the same. (Seriously, if Hamilton Leithauser was singing instead of a nameless vocalist, it would be a great Walkmen song.)
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
http://pitchfork.com/news/46570-beach-house-respond-to-volkswagen-ad/
So I guess the ad agency DID make a play for the song, but were denied. Indie nerds are totally making a mountain out of a molehill, though.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:06 (twelve years ago) link
eh if they wanted the track and made a soundalike that was transparent enough for that many people to notice (i haven't compared) then it's fair game for people to cry foul
― some dude, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
Basically, one person thought so and then Pitchfork carried the flag. I still say that if you put "Take Care" in a mix with a bunch of other songs that sound like it, you wouldn't be able to distinguish the VW ad's song from any of the others as "the replica".
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:15 (twelve years ago) link
the (male) vocalist is very closely copying Legrand's vocal style which is pretty unique sounding even amongst a slew of imitators. the song key lyrics is "i'll watch over you" in place of the almost exact point where Legrand sings "i'll take care of you." you may not like BH or care that they've been ripped off but you're being disingenuous here.
― jed_, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:23 (twelve years ago) link
No, I do like a fair amount of Beach House material, but I'm still not hearing enough similarity between these recordings for people's short to get all in a wad.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:35 (twelve years ago) link
every time i hear a BH song without actively knowing or thinking about who i'm listening to her voice scans as a male voice to me
― some dude, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:36 (twelve years ago) link
this kind of "ripping off" is totally fine, who cares. "that stoner rock band rips off black sabbath!"
― am0n, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:38 (twelve years ago) link
same here, i was kinda shocked when i first saw a video. i thought it was a female sounding dude rather than a woman who sounds like a dude who sounds like a woman.
― jed_, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:39 (twelve years ago) link
am0n, it's a whole different thing if an ad agency commission a soundalike track after a licensing refusal from a band.
Beach House's response is that they don't care about it too much either but i suspect that they're just being gracious.
― jed_, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:43 (twelve years ago) link
not illegal, totally fine. case closed
― am0n, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:44 (twelve years ago) link
its all on the up and up
― am0n, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
probably those kinds of deliberate soundalikes happen all the time but the case is usually more like this than something undeniably obviously like getting a guy to sing like Tom Waits
― some dude, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
Its not illegal, but its a huge dick move.
"Can we use your song?"
"No."
"Fine, we'll just pay some schlubs to craft a subtlely different 'take' on it."
― heated debate over derpy hooves (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 18 May 2012 17:46 (twelve years ago) link
The only reason this is a big deal is because it was used in a tv ad. The same people complaining about this are the people who download Girl Talk albums the first day they're available and champion his straight up unlicensed use of dozens of copyrighted recordings.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:47 (twelve years ago) link
dog i don't even care about this but you're bending over backwards with some apples and orange ish
― some dude, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
Maybe. I just feel a bit righteous today is all. This is the fight I picked.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
ad execs are walking dick moves tho, what do you expect. in truth, i don't rly side one way or the other but i think its lolworthy that there's an indie wrecking crew band
― am0n, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
this is insane
― Mordy, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:50 (twelve years ago) link
i don't understand why ppl who were okay with an artist using unlicensed samples to make his collage music are not okay with an advertising agency ripping off a band's song to help sell their merchandise. totally incomprehensible to me!
― Mordy, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:51 (twelve years ago) link
me too
― am0n, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
I don't find one of these to be any worse than the other, but for some reason when a sound(ish)alike song shows up in a commercial, people go apeshit. For that matter, when an original recording of a song shows up in a commercial, people go apeshit.
So, by this metric, it's okay for Greg Gillis to make his bones by ripping off actual recordings, but it's not okay at all for these probably reasonably okay people to use Beach House as a starting point while creating something altogether original. rmde at the whole internet.
― Johnny Fever, Friday, 18 May 2012 17:58 (twelve years ago) link
I wanna give my testimony here. if somebody wanted to move this thread to '77 after I do, I wouldn't complain, but no big. In I think 2008, during a really pretty horrible period for me personally, some people got in touch with me asking me to sing & play a tune they had already written for a tv ad. The campaign was greenlit, somebody was going to sing this tune anyway and there was about two payments on the car in it for me, small money but still money. They sent me their demo of the song, and then we had a phone conversation about what they wanted.
They never explicitly said it, but it was very, very clear, both from the song itself & from the way they described what they wanted, was a song that sounded exactly like an indie artist who was & is a friend of mine & who'd recently come into considerable success. The song in question was a clear & obvious bite on this songwriter's style. I was to basically imitate my friend for money. I didn't do this; I found out they'd asked, like, half my friends for similar takes. I don't know who the person was that they ended up hiring, but when the ad aired half a year later, the singer they'd gotten was straight-up imitating my bud. Their whole approach was v. scummy & gross, from the "we've been fans forever" with lots of old-days reminiscences to their "you know what we mean" pitch. IOW what cantankerous indie ppl suspect & get aggro about in this shit is true. You can take their money or they'll pay somebody to bite your style. It's bullshit, imo.
― decrepit but free (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, June 5, 2012 4:25 PM
so u didn't do it, big whoop, here's yr medal. also why in the world would this thread "move to 77". get over yourself ffs
― shit_ebooks (am0n), Thursday, 7 June 2012 16:34 (twelve years ago) link
this record is nice!
― ciderpress, Sunday, 10 June 2012 05:42 (twelve years ago) link
take that shit to 77
― contenderizer, Sunday, 10 June 2012 05:57 (twelve years ago) link
The larger point is that p4k tends to stack the decks towards their most favored artists in the most annoying and shameless way possible. (Note: this is not intended as criticism for those here who write for them)
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:33 (twelve years ago) link
Oh I forgot to add 'intentional or not' to the end of the first sentence.
― freebroheem (loves laboured breathing), Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:34 (twelve years ago) link
Pitchfork is shameless and annoying (not intended as criticism)
― brony ver (s1ocki), Sunday, 10 June 2012 06:42 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bv7IcjmxjGo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OFpfTd0EIs
― ilxor, Thursday, 12 July 2012 03:59 (eleven years ago) link
WOW
― OPÓ (Ówen P.), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:03 (eleven years ago) link
ilxor otm
― mod night at the oasis (NickB), Thursday, 12 July 2012 12:24 (eleven years ago) link
got no human grace
:)
― ilxor, Thursday, 12 July 2012 14:06 (eleven years ago) link
Probably not an original thought, but Beach House reminds me a lot of these guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9Ox-lGm-wA
― Moodles, Friday, 10 August 2012 18:03 (eleven years ago) link
Has anybody seen them tour this record? How is it?
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 00:38 (eleven years ago) link
This has not stood the test of time with me sadly as I love Teen Dream and all their back catalog.
― marginal victory, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 10:21 (eleven years ago) link
The album faded fast for me, too, but they're touring behind a really great show. Good setlist, awesome light show, and they sound heavier and louder than you'd probably expect
― Evan R, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 14:08 (eleven years ago) link
I still love the album so I guess I should go see them.
― LeRooLeRoo, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:11 (eleven years ago) link
I saw them on Saturday in Toronto. They were terrific. Evan is right. They do sound heavier and louder than expected. They played five or six songs from Teen Dream and a handful from Devotion. And for me, Bloom hasn't faded. Still one of my favourite albums of the year.
― Binjominia, Tuesday, 16 October 2012 20:40 (eleven years ago) link
I wonder how much of this happens on a strictly regional level? I ask because there is a Gulf Coast casino currently running a TV ad soundtracked by a very faithful copping of the riff from The Black Keys' "Howlin' For You" (it's an even closer cop than the Pizza Hut "Gold On The Ceiling" ad in the above linked article).― Hare Kinsey (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:01 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― Hare Kinsey (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, June 5, 2012 10:01 PM (7 months ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
Lawyer Up
― Big Sambola & The Tailspinners (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 24 January 2013 02:45 (eleven years ago) link
cool, hope they lose
― am0n, Friday, 25 January 2013 21:57 (eleven years ago) link
just threw this on for the first time in over a year and it sounds great. have not been able to get into Depression Cherry at all
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Thursday, 12 May 2016 18:41 (eight years ago) link