Techno/house bobbins, 2009

Oh wow, someone booked Sammy Dee and Frivolous here. Hooray!

Without having really payed much attention to the mix, do you think the 2X LP sampler for Matthew Dear's Body Language is worth it. Condenses some stuff I wouldn't mind having into one place, but I dunno, mix samplers have also been kind of, weird to me, for some reason.

i say go for it if you want the trax. invariably a cheaper way of getting stuff.

it's got "ambee", best track on BL7 imo

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wait no, that needs an apostrophe

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you're contracting it and has, so the apostrophe works.

just got the Petar Dundov - Escapements album. only heard it twice so far but it's fantastic. some ambient tracks, some detroit elements, some trancey bits.

I saw Martinez Bros. dj in new york without knowing who they were (I only looked on the internet afterward and saw all the "omg theyr in high school" writeups) and I thought it was great, their enthusiasm was infectious, it was fun to watch em play with huge smiles on their faces and everyone in the booth with em doing a whiplash neckbounce to every track

they did play some pop songs like Crystal Waters but it wasn't the majority

It says on the new Kompakt site that their new online store will be up in March.

That's good. I've always liked the selection on their site, but the interface was truely awful.

their interface was indeed vile

Haven't heard the Martinez Brothers live because I literally never go to the few remaining big rooms left in NYC, but I'm glad there is anything that gets the kids into EDM and if they're playing poppy stuff too then good! I never understood why so many Americans hate electronic music when most music that is popular here is actually made with the same machines and programs as techno. I'm not looking for an answer to this question but TMB can be a positive force if they point out this fact to a younger crowd.

Also, Seth Troxler's best release of last year was done with Pat Russell--"Valt Trax" on Circus Company. Superb and trippy dark stuff.

wait, martinez bros play ebm?

http://www.kompakt.fm/blog/3voL2oiGLiJ4

new online store in March for physical records but all mps through beatport from now on.

a positive force?

After reading the first part of the looking back on 2008 feature on RA, and subsequently downloading the Tolga Fidan remix of Dilo (Somehow I was blown away when I first heard him in 2007, and then just kind of forgot about how good he is) and the Anthony Collins remix of Kreon and Lemos, I must say, these are some pretty masterful tracks.

tail-end 2008 stuff i have been enjoying:

le chien perdu - handsome interruption (i'm really a big sucker for staccato cut-up vocals in techno)
milton channels - black is black (MASSIVE tech house track)

would like to hear a radio slave mix of that "black is black" track

ben klock album is fantastic, maybe not something to be played end to end but full of great tracks and not much of your average techno artists album filler or downtempo bits

New Gui Boratto album is streaming here

i'm REALLY feeling kreon's 'jauce' - it's the track that sebo k's 'diva' promised but didn't deliver. anyone know what the sample's from?

Jauce is great as is the Masomenos collab Eps. The cute graphics are a nice touch too.

anyone here the MXM record on Philpot from last year? really like that, just picked it up.

and moonship, "black is black" as in the one by Belle Epoque? or los bravas? or extravagance.?

i've been loving the productions from Lerosa. I can't get enough of his sound right now.

i mean "black is black" by milton channels. it's a little too hectic for my taste.

desire, the nicolette + john tejada track on where (palette recordings) is absolutely perfect.
need to dig out her solo album from way back, as i think it needs more love.

The new Intrusion album, The Seduction of Silence, is fantastic. Nice and dubby.

desire, the nicolette + john tejada track on where (palette recordings) is absolutely perfect.
need to dig out her solo album from way back, as i think it needs more love.

Produced by Plaid.

IIRC nicolette did a really nice installment of dj kicks back in the day. yeah, this one, also with assistance from plaid

"i've been loving the productions from Lerosa. I can't get enough of his sound right now.

― brotherlovesdub"

little BSP here, but we have a nice interview with him along with a free .wav DL of a track exclusive to us:

http://infinitestatemachine.com/2008/12/08/lerosa-straight-outta-killester/

leo is the man, he keeps getting better and better!

Personally I find Lerosa's sound to be the most bland and boring of the bunch of producers making that style of deep-house. It's like Move D with even fewer interesting melodies or grooves to get excited about.

That said, I'm not incredibly well versed on his stuff, so perhaps I'm just ignorant.

Seconded on the Intrusion album, a great step for Stephen.

i wouldn't even really compare Lerosa to Move D at all. to me, he sounds like someone who should have been releasing records on Track Mode, not any specific producer but certainly in that same vein of feeling. definitely far more US deep house feeling than Move D or most other Euro producers.

too bad "us deep house feeling", as a whole, got ridden into the ground in 2008

I agree, Lerosa and Move D should be filed together in the record shop but their sounds are not the same. Lerosa sounds more like long lost Carl Craig demos than anything else. I'm sure that's me projecting what I want to hear in them but i've been listening to nothing else all weekend. I've just spent 30 bones on Juno downloading 320s of all his EPs and remixes despite having downloaded them from rapidshare already. All of this because for the 2nd time in a month the one track that was spectacular enough to make me ask the DJ what it was turned out to be Lerosa.

That's awesome. Again, I'm more than willing to be wrong if it means good music is to be had.

Anyone care to point out his essential tracks?

I like the Seeker EP best but really they all have good shit on them.

Arctor off the Lovers EP is one of my favs.

What does everyone think of the "new" Beatport?

Circadia on the same EP is also great. I'm a sucker for those round fat synth melodies that remind me of the best acid house classics. Since i made the Carl Craig demo comment above, i'll make another ridiculous connection here and say Circadia sounds like something Mr. Fingers would have done if he was better at programming drum patterns.

What does everyone think of the "new" Beatport?

playlist feature is kind of nice I guess, a 'next' button would be great, site WAY slow now, too much minimal/prog/tech-house promotion still, seems like they put any techno record that is faster than 132 bpm in the 'hardcore/hard techno' ghetto.

too bad "us deep house feeling", as a whole, got ridden into the ground in 2008

yeah I'll bite.
why didn't I buy any of those records in 2008? being a huge us deep house feeling enthusiast I was ready to give in and rep something from that mainly teutonic wave of appropriation. but no, it was a lame attempt at replicating stuff produced 15 years ago, turning it into a kind of fetishized museum piece. with some tedious and vibeless experimentation coaxing the requisite kneejerk responses from confused, nervous crowds.

probably my fault for thinking ilm was all happy cooks instead of one big mouthpiece for the cafeteria menu.

i'll make another ridiculous connection here and say Circadia sounds like something Mr. Fingers would have done if he was better at programming drum patterns.

This statement is ridiculous. You need to go back and listen to Washing Machine and study those drums to see how far out you can push a 707. Even his restrained tasteful 707 stuff like Love Mystery or Mysteries of Love is perfect. I am not trying to trash talk Lerosa but his shit is playschool compared to Larry Heard.

probably my fault for thinking ilm was all happy cooks instead of one big mouthpiece for the cafeteria menu.

That is a nice way to describe the board.

My music money went to used records and recording hardware last year. I mainly bought used NYC and Chicago records with a bit of electro thrown in for good measure. If nu-deep house wasn't the way to go in 2008, what were you buying instead?

the usual deep house from the usual US artists, some used. there was little to go by on in the new dept- and nothing in the 'nu' dept.
I did buy a whole lot of dub CDs including all the Scientist I could find.

also enjoyed Quarion's remix of Andres Garcia "No More Tears" last year- caveat/full disclosure, both are friends. it was a pretty quiet year...

i can hear Washing Machine from start to finish without ever actually playing it again. it's fused into my mind. i don't personally believe putting a simple delay on the drum sounds = interesting drum programming. there's nothing that complex or interesting about the drums on Washing Machine. it's a bit of delay on the secondary rhythms while the kicks stay steady. i'm not saying i'd take Lerosa over Larry Heard or even that he's remotely as classic or talented but this is the 09 bobbins and i am bobbin to Lerosa in 09.

There is a lot more going on in Washing Machine besides delay. What is happening on that track is that every sound on the 707 is being run out to the board on an individual channel. He has an analogue delay set up on one of the aux sends and the send is running back to the board. What he is doing is delaying individual channels on the fly while the 707 plays through the song in track mode, all that shit is being done in real time by hand. It isn't just one delay part, it switches up all the time and he is grabbing a different drum sound every four bars. He is also adjusting the delay itself through out the track so that the delay jumbles and stretches out depending on where he is in the song. He also can mute the delay channel so he can surge the delay and then slam the channel shut and emphasize the start of the next bar.

The drums themselves are really clever. I like the way he uses the the open hat to denote bar lines without resorting to loud claps on two and four. I also like the way he used to claps to add syncopation and played them off the lo tom, the tambourine and closed hat. It is a simple track based on 8 four bar loops and an empty pattern that repeat in a cycle. They way he pulled off that track was about as elegant as you can get on a 707. It is real subtle and he doesn't beat you over the head with his changes. If you are really listening every pattern flows builds into the next one and then the cycle turns around without losing any energy.

While all of this is happening he is working the board, grabbing some drums from patterns, muting others, cutting them in and out on the mixer while also sending different individual drums though the delay. None of this was done on a computer, this is all being done by hand in real time.

If you can hear every bar of that track in your head from start to finish I am impressed.

This was pretty hot for 2008 bobbins: http://www.discogs.com/Larry-Heard-25-Years-From-Alpha/release/1531473

Speaking of 09 bobbins, has anyone heard this yet: http://www.discogs.com/Mr-White-Aeroplane/release/1620206

Just gave that Mr White record a listen on Boomkat, not so much.

larry heard is the eddie van halen of drum machine, haven't you heard

obv nobody banging down the door to start a new thread...

well, with minimal dead, whats the point, really

The 2008 thread has been pretty boring (though without checking I'm pretty sure there are a couple of flamewars re the battle for the soul of house/techno upthread), and I think it's because of the vibeless broadness of its remit. "House/Techno" is not something that you can really get behind as a movement unless you have a wilfully perverse definition of what counts as "real".

I suspect that threads that are actually about a particular trend rather than just a kind-of sub-twitter about good new tracks would be much more successful and interesting.

Worth comparing with the original version of this thread back in 2004: 2004's Electro-House Classics

you could use that attitude to justify anything max...what's the point of getting up in the morning....or what's the point of breathing????

lol

I think we should have a YouTube Embends Only rule for the 2010 thread.

max stopped breathing before it was cool

Dude, first Kurt was taken from us, then Minimal, it's like, I don't even know anymore man...

RT @Josephhallam84 So, someones deleted Random Circuits so it no longer exists, how pathetic! All our work, mixes, gone forever!

so so sad, man..

still no new thread?

http://mnmlssg.blogspot.com/2010/01/mnml-ssgs-mx48-redshape.html

Rolling Dance Partisans 2010 (Also bobbin, bobbins, bobbins!)