electronic music for indie rock kids is really good music though
― Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:58 (twelve years ago) link
mouse on mars always makes me think of industrious little elves working in a factory
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
it's not terrible music
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
putting the morr back in opinions(morr)u
― Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
maybe i am jaded by tuomas' relentless stannery
neway itp im voting for 'spirit guide to low-tech'
― Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:00 (twelve years ago) link
like MoM in a league table of electronic music peeps of the 90s wd be midway down whether y're counting duos, solos or whatevs
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
b-but:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oU7wzzvYrU
― tanuki, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
i mean i worship autechs more than an unspiteful listener might but as a summary of any era this is one of the most depressing polls i can imagine
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:02 (twelve years ago) link
eg siding with either of the partisans on here = grim prospectus
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
why do u h8 elves
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:04 (twelve years ago) link
love mouse on mars but they are electronic music for (90s) indie kids.
brotherlovesdub: start with instrumentals or glam if you like dubby stuff. vulvaland if you're into kompakt. iaora tahiti if you want something in between.
― original bgm, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:05 (twelve years ago) link
i dun't hate elves i just want them to smash the means of xmas present production and flit in the woods
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
still so weird that matador started putting out this stuff btw
― original bgm, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:06 (twelve years ago) link
matador had a whole swathe of indie kidtronica if i understand their shtick correct
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:07 (twelve years ago) link
'dont blame me i voted for cristian vogel!' - some german
― Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:08 (twelve years ago) link
what was it that henry james said about venice and matador records again??
has anyone heard the shoegaze band Four Square Logos that Jan St. Werner and Andi Toma were in before forming MoM?
― tanuki, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
http://daniellespencer.com/graphics/design/music/blip/blip_cover.jpg
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:10 (twelve years ago) link
International Center for Comparative Sound
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
its hard 2 believe that all the genius of blip hop could be contained in one record...
― Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
i think this is my favorite ilm thread in months thank u toumas
omg blip hop
― original bgm, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
i like "science" labels on shonky 90s IDM stuff, cf. Macro Dub Infection comps
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:12 (twelve years ago) link
hmmm... spotify sez this cristian vogel album was made in 1900:
http://open.spotify.com/album/2MhsMCK4lOzabLssyFmsHf
very ahead of its time imo
― original bgm, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:14 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.phinnweb.org/jsk/saversus.gif
wish i had a copy of this
― Lamp, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:17 (twelve years ago) link
I like two lone swordsmen but never quite made up my mind about andrew weatherall.
alright, now absolute time is on. http://www.dormibella.nl/forum/Smileys/dormibella/headbang.gif
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZcPbN78Gi0
― original bgm, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:23 (twelve years ago) link
weatherall has been on fire w/ the remixes over the last few years imo, big classic-rock style "return to form"
― ┗|∵|┓ (sic), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 03:55 (twelve years ago) link
I don't get how Mouse on Mars was "electronic music for (90s) indie kids". They don't sound like anything like indie rock, and their first album was trance, for chrissakes! If you mean that indie kids listened to their albums, what does that have to do with how good/bad their music was? Also, how is Autechre different in that regard? Warp Records and IDM in general were big among 90s indie kids too.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 06:28 (twelve years ago) link
To add to that: maybe Idiology sounds a bit like indie rock, but that was in the 00s.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 06:30 (twelve years ago) link
Really like Iaora Tahiti and Autoditacker, plus some of the earlier singles (Bib and Frosch). Can't be arsed with Autechre.
― Sick Mouthy (Scik Mouthy), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 06:59 (twelve years ago) link
i have a copy of that lamp, most of the mixes are kinda redundant BUT the in the nursery remix is gold
― the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 08:36 (twelve years ago) link
also WTF is david byrne doing on this thread get out of here w/ that indie shit
this thread is shit enough without one of the shittest record labels of all time shitting up the place
― the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 08:38 (twelve years ago) link
Love both of these, but voted for the cold steel of Autechre over the softer charms of MoM.
― French Cricket in the USA (NickB), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 08:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.craftsandmorestore.com/images/MOMDADDAY/momdad%2002.jpg
― picture jean rollin (Pillbox), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 09:03 (twelve years ago) link
I've never liked a single things by Mouse on Mars. I listened to Iahora Tahiti like 1.5 times before selling it. Autechre on the other hand, I voted for in the other thread, so...
― EDB, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 10:04 (twelve years ago) link
Iaora Tahiti is their worst 90s album, IMO: kinda too simplistic and bleepy, but it doesn't have the trance pleasures of its predecessor either. With Autoditacker they managed to refine that new sound into something more detailed and idiosyncratic. So I wouldn't give up on them based on IT alone.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 11:23 (twelve years ago) link
Warp Records and IDM in general were big among 90s indie kids too.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, April 10, 2012 2:28 AM (11 hours ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
yah idm was big w/indies i guess is the point, because it was intelligent and therefor ok to like lmao
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:08 (twelve years ago) link
worst music genre name EVER
drumNbass was indie big too
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:10 (twelve years ago) link
i know because i was an indie, the shame
i like both iaora tahiti and vulvaland and own them, sold my copy of autoditacker, might buy it back BUT i also went and saw them on their tour w/ the live drummer and it was deeply embarrassing watching a room full of like sea and cake fans do the fug to this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyuWFl8Kaug
^^ voting autechre
― the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 18:14 (twelve years ago) link
That tune is from the 00s though.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah but the germ of that tune was there in the 90s
― the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
the part reflects the whole DO YOU SEE
I agree that MoM took a deep dive downwards in the turn of the decade, but the stuff between Vulvaland and Glam is unfuckable-with (and Niun Niggung has its moments too).
(xx-post)
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
i kinda tune out after autoditacker but i agree, the first couple albums are pretty great in their own way
it's just too ... slight (?) for my liking, kinda like audio wallpaper or a poor man's atom heart
― the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
Haha, that's funny, because "audio wallpaper" is how I'd describe Autechre. After the initial, more technoish tunes (which I actually like), they just went overtly abstract, like some pointless geometric patterns on a wall. I can admire how their tunes are constructed, but because they seems to about the construction itself and nothing more, they don't move me in any way, but their music is still too busy to form the sort of directionless ambience one can immerse in, so it just feels pointless. Whereas MoM, even though they're always busy too, at least have some kind of a point, some emotional drive to all the vectors in their tunes.
― Tuomas, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:28 (twelve years ago) link
later Autechre is best appreciated on headphones out in the open air i think. the austerity and the abstraction aren't the point, for me, but they help to create this thick textural sound wherein lies the pleasure. i listen to it more like i'd listen to noise stuff or Nurse With Wound or other sound collagists - and great moments emerge from within the initial rush of sound, but i guess it isn't really about the journey from A to B for me
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:33 (twelve years ago) link
I have always found Mouse on Mars to be really, really boring
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
it would be like some kind of op-art wallpaper that would fuck with your brain and make it hard to think though, i find it hard to focus on latter-day autechre (post ganz graf) but also impossible to ignore (in a bad way, all that excessive MSP fuckery and grating noises drives me up the wall, it's like an endless feedback squeal)
― the late great, Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
that's why it reminds me of Merzbow i suppose
― red is hungry green is jawless (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:34 (twelve years ago) link
(I will say though that I hadn't realized Panacea sampled MoM's "Elli Im Wunderland" on his bad-ass "Untitled B Side"; that is the first thing about them I've found interesting)
― God, Music and Romeo and Juliet (DJP), Tuesday, 10 April 2012 20:41 (twelve years ago) link
gtfo this thread is perfect
― Lamp, Wednesday, 11 April 2012 01:46 (twelve years ago) link
voted for mouse on mars cuz of von sudenfed and i don't know shit abt electronic music really
― Mississippi Butt Hurt (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 11 April 2012 01:52 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Sunday, 15 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLXzSefzVWU
― Où sont le Lord Custos d'antan? (Leee), Sunday, 15 April 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqKOISC-kd8https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KrDF0VTb8o
― Où sont le Lord Custos d'antan? (Leee), Sunday, 15 April 2012 04:38 (twelve years ago) link
autechre youtubes are so sad
― windjammer voyage (blank), Sunday, 15 April 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zix0nqrRrJ4https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZFmZ0gZNZIhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-os-GlHIJSE
― Où sont le Lord Custos d'antan? (Leee), Sunday, 15 April 2012 04:52 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ All '90s output, all beautiful without the "abstraction" strawmanning (which is definitely more applicable to their '00s stuff).
― Où sont le Lord Custos d'antan? (Leee), Sunday, 15 April 2012 04:59 (twelve years ago) link
i had no idea autechre had so many songs
― windjammer voyage (blank), Sunday, 15 April 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.
― System, Monday, 16 April 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link