I know I wasn't that hot on Setbacks, but Habits and Contradictions is awesome.
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:29 (twelve years ago) link
hella on board w/this
― bear, bear, bear, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:32 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah, love this album too. Really dig how expressive Q is, even most of his adlibs feel like the pitch and aesthetic has been just so carefully considered. And the production is sick pretty much top to bottom.
― sleepingbag, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:33 (twelve years ago) link
good lookin to q on dodging xxl freshmen bullet
― bear, bear, bear, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:34 (twelve years ago) link
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:29 AM (15 minutes ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
u wrong for this
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:45 (twelve years ago) link
The two albums strike me as both good and quite similar.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:50 (twelve years ago) link
xp ok you're right, the new album sux
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:56 (twelve years ago) link
god it feels like every rap thread i go in contains deej telling someone they're rong or their opinion is weird for enjoying rapper x or preferring album y
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:59 (twelve years ago) link
i also preferred habits & contradictions slightly, setbacks took a few listens to settle while H&C was pretty immediate
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:00 (twelve years ago) link
thats completely backwards though. sorry for telling you you're wrong but ... H&C is a much less immediate record
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:19 (twelve years ago) link
they're both good obv
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:20 (twelve years ago) link
but whatever makes you feel better about sleeping on the 1st one & justifying it in retrospect
people have different responses to music
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:26 (twelve years ago) link
sorry to blow your mind but
dog cmon. lex accusing me of this is clearly some kind of practical joke -- his entire argumentative style is 'i'm right you're wrong' so i just went w/ it here
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:29 (twelve years ago) link
but if you want to discuss the contents of the record, joints like 'kamikaze' and 'fantasy' have much more traditional pop sounds to them than pretty much anything on this record, which goes in a much more oblique / abstract direction, IMHO
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:30 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjOkdZVj98A
there's def more of a traditional, IMMEDIATE banger feel to these joints than the trippy kinetic weirdness of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4oYwf5y9DFg
thats not saying one is better than the other inherently, i just happened to prefer the former approach personally, although I like both records. I do have trouble understanding how you can hear the weirder approach of this record as being a step towards 'immediacy' though, or i'm at least going to need you guys to explain more clearly what you mean by that term b/c i think its kind of self-evident how the two records split along these lines
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:33 (twelve years ago) link
xp that may be my problem with them? both those sound pretty rote to me compared to what's on this album
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:34 (twelve years ago) link
what song you know sounds like 'fantasy'?? thats a completely unique & amazing track
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:35 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno what in particular, but it definitely has that "non-mainstream rapper makes begrudging and half-assed attempt at mainstream song" vibe that always has put me off, even if the particulars might be a bit different, and the hook falls stupid flat.
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:40 (twelve years ago) link
the song w/ jhene on the new one is way better imo
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:41 (twelve years ago) link
its way weirder & the groove is considerably less sexual &, say, IMMEDIATE
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:44 (twelve years ago) link
what is 'half assed' about it?
i mean you're only talking abt my favorite song of last year, is it any wonder i'm like "wtf u wrong" when dudes start a thread about the artist on his 2nd record after the Pfork bnm & intense media hype & suddenly everyone's coming up w/ excuses why this is the better record
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:46 (twelve years ago) link
I listened to his record and was unimpressed with it last year, dog. Didn't even know he was BNMed either. You don't have to second-guess everything.
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:48 (twelve years ago) link
ok so on our original point, 'immediate' means, 'i liked it more right away', but isnt an intrinsic quality of the actual music, but i'm saying that it was more immediate in the pop sense, and that's something i value while you tend to value perhaps a more abstract approach from this partic. artist
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:50 (twelve years ago) link
blah reword
for you,immediate simply meant, 'i liked it more right away'
i meant 'immediate' as an actual characteristic of music that was aiming for a more pop immediacy,
for me, this is something valued, while you might place more of a value on abstraction in this particular artist,
and now we have both agreed 2 disagree
― D-40, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:52 (twelve years ago) link
― D-40, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 12:44 AM Bookmark
schoolboy q just kind of drones, jhene sounds uninvested, and it's really small-sounding, fades into the background easily
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:52 (twelve years ago) link
xp, yeah, that's probably right
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 08:53 (twelve years ago) link
"Kamikaze" and (especially) "Fantasy" are def. my favourite tracks on Setbacks.
"Fantasy" is pretty much perfect, esp. that bit where the beat gets all muted and fuzzy like you're listening from inside the womb.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 09:46 (twelve years ago) link
I immediately loved both Setbacks and Habits & Contradictions
― Vaseline MEN AMAZING JOURNEY (DJP), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
this album really isn't all that
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:05 (twelve years ago) link
mostly i don't get why everyone is falling all over themselves to talk about how good the production is... i think some of the beats are really corny
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:08 (twelve years ago) link
if not corny than at least just kinda off-putting... sorta like the danny brown record except without the implicit acknowledgement that some of the beats are supposed to piss you off
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, 29 February 2012 16:10 (twelve years ago) link
(idk beats on the danny brown are great)
like H&C much more than setbacks, probably because of the production...
― sisilafami, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 17:09 (twelve years ago) link
i feel like the production is more ear-catching on H&C and schoolboy q stretches himself vocally a lot more too - the songs have a lot more unexpected twists and tangents that keep you interested and the beats are pretty incredible.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:38 (twelve years ago) link
did u know? H&C is a prequel to Setbacks. Makes you think eh?
― Number None, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
― lex pretend, Wednesday, February 29, 2012 1:38 PM Bookmark
otm
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:49 (twelve years ago) link
I was half-wrong about "Kamikaze" btw, the beat is kinda whatever, but Q's performance is great
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
there are some awesome flutes on H&C too
nice portishead sample as well
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:50 (twelve years ago) link
REAL OGS, etc.
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
i agree w/rev vis-à-vis the two jhené songs though i'm sadly coming to the conclusion that i'm just not that into jhené at all so her presence is kinda negligible to me
ha yeah i totally thought of that thread a few times xp
― lex pretend, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:51 (twelve years ago) link
she's a good songwriter when she has more room to stretch out and she has really good phrasing imo.
― marissa explains it all (The Reverend), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 21:59 (twelve years ago) link
I think she'd do pretty well just doing floaty inconsequential rap chorus hooks forever.
― Tim F, Wednesday, 29 February 2012 22:03 (twelve years ago) link
SCHOOLBOY THERE HE GO
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:07 (twelve years ago) link
Love all the ad libs too
― Raymond Cummings, Tuesday, 6 March 2012 23:08 (twelve years ago) link
Most Enthusiastic Crowd
Minneapolis. I was literally expecting 150 people there because nobody showed up to the meet-and-greet. I was thinking, "This is about to be a disaster." But that shit was packed out. It was a little overwhelming for me. It was crazy, all white people. There were like three black people in there.
― johnny crunch, Monday, 12 March 2012 11:14 (twelve years ago) link
people who wanna perfect their "the album you lames didn't rep for was better" game really need to get into metal, you'll love it
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Monday, 12 March 2012 11:56 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Wednesday, February 29, 2012 11:05 AM (1 week ago) Bookmark
― some dude, Monday, 12 March 2012 12:51 (twelve years ago) link
lol this guy
http://pitchfork.com/features/guest-lists/8790-schoolboy-q/
― 3hunn O))) (J0rdan S.), Monday, 12 March 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link