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Jazze Pha makes more sense in the context of a UGK album way better than Lil Jon or Swizz Beatz.

I'm not anti-skits per se (hell, I quoted a De La skit a few posts ago), but I do admire Kanye for going for skit overboard on his first album (the two consecutive skits really pissed me off) to no skits at all on his third.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:06 (sixteen years ago) link

going for = going FROM, obviously

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

also NONE of kanye's skits have ever really been funny

max, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:07 (sixteen years ago) link

"If this is P, lemme hear you say unnnngh"

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

xp "broke phi broke" is negative funny

max, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

Kanye's skits are good context-builders to his more conceptual albums

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:08 (sixteen years ago) link

except that his "concepts" are annoying and not really interesting! o man a college degree is useless!! thanx kanye!!1! drop some more wisdom pls!!

max, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:10 (sixteen years ago) link

it warmed my heart when I read that at a listening party Kanye said that the album would feature "no fake Bernie Mac!"

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:15 (sixteen years ago) link

Actually, Graduation only has one less song than either of his first two albums, it's just that they have, like, ten mins worth of skits on them.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:16 (sixteen years ago) link

With the bonus tracks, my count comes to 15 songs on the record. Which is not short.

kenan, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:19 (sixteen years ago) link

Mine doesn't have any bonus tracks.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Mine neither.

Did you get it at Best Buy or ZShare?

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

best buy one doesn't have bonus tracks.

Jordan Sargent, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:24 (sixteen years ago) link

college dropout--1:16:13 (14 tracks, incl. 12 minute final track, 7 skits)
late registration--1:10:26 (17 tracks (1 bonus) 5 skits)
graduation--51:18 (13 tracks (no bonus) 0 skits)

these are the editions i have

max, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

help i cannot stop listening to "flashing lights" k thx bye

Davey D, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:26 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah Late Registration has 16 songs if you count "Late" and both versions of "Diamonds."

I didn't get "Flashing Lights" on the first couple listens but it really stuck with me today.

Alex in Baltimore, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

he hates the paparazzis even more than the nazis

da croupier, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

and he HATES nazis, so you know he means business.

da croupier, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:29 (sixteen years ago) link

Davey D, are you this Davey D?

The Reverend, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Did you get it at Best Buy or ZShare?

Neither (I got it at Fred Meyers, which is the only place in town you can buy cds at 7AM when I get off from work.)

I wasn't counting bonus tracks on Late Registration.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:32 (sixteen years ago) link

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I always assumed so. If so, thanks for all the links that Paper Thin Walls gaffles on the daily.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:33 (sixteen years ago) link

I believe the bonus tracks are on the import version?

kenan, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:37 (sixteen years ago) link

Davey D, are you this Davey D?

No, but I am a different Davey D.

Davey D, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:39 (sixteen years ago) link

Pay up, Whiney.

The Reverend, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:43 (sixteen years ago) link

I was secretly hoping he was the one who wrote all the Kurtis Blow and Spoonie G songs

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

I have Davy's Ride on cassette, but i haven't gotten around to listening to it.

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:44 (sixteen years ago) link

Looks like the UK version has one bonus track and the Japanese version has two.

kenan, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:45 (sixteen years ago) link

Rev can use the money he just won to buy the import version of Late Registration

Whiney G. Weingarten, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 17:46 (sixteen years ago) link

What's weird about Graduation is that I just get next to no vibe/impression from it AT ALL, I play it through and eventually it's over and that's it and I have no desire to listen again. It's like air. Usually when I say "it's like air" i'm referring to some shit I've heard, way, way too much but I've only listened to this album like 4-5 times since buying it yesterday.

An analogy no-one will agree with:

CD: a fun, zany, microbrew
LR: a big glass of strong red wine you can never finish at one sitting
G: a glass of water

Beatrix Kiddo, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 22:21 (sixteen years ago) link

Your tolerance is weak, dood.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 22:30 (sixteen years ago) link

I mean, I love the video an all, but fuck, I cannot listen to "Can't Tell Me Nothing" without picturing Zach Galifianakis and Will Oldham prancing around (especially when the hype man goes "ha-ha" - it's all about Bonnie Billy yo).

Davey D, Wednesday, 12 September 2007 23:55 (sixteen years ago) link

After two listens, I think "Big Brother" is easily the worst thing on here. Not sure why anyone likes it.

da croupier, Thursday, 13 September 2007 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link

Unless they really wish they could kiss Jay-Z's ass personally or something.

da croupier, Thursday, 13 September 2007 02:43 (sixteen years ago) link

It's ass-kissing, but it's also kinda wounded. Which is either one of Kanye's most egregious "look at me and empathize with me" plays on the record, or it's pretty honest. Maybe it's tacky to write about someone is your hero and hurt your feelings, but he did, and there's a certain amount of balls to that whatever his intention.

kenan, Thursday, 13 September 2007 03:39 (sixteen years ago) link

It just comes across as genuine and relatable, unlike a lot of the paparazzi-baiting on the rest of the album.

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BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Thursday, 13 September 2007 03:40 (sixteen years ago) link

I guess I should just be grateful there aren't already four decades worth of songs with the word "Clive" in them.

da croupier, Thursday, 13 September 2007 04:00 (sixteen years ago) link

hold up fennessey otm

Jordan Sargent, Thursday, 13 September 2007 05:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Nice. Shows how it might have been, at least. Agreed with Vibe, that beat is crazy good.

kenan, Thursday, 13 September 2007 11:17 (sixteen years ago) link

That backing track could be me farting over it, and you'd still say it's good.

kenan, Thursday, 13 September 2007 11:18 (sixteen years ago) link

Yeah, I found "Big Brother" to be the most honest track on the record.

jon /via/ chi 2.0, Thursday, 13 September 2007 11:55 (sixteen years ago) link

"flashing lights" is totally this album's darkhorse

^@^, Thursday, 13 September 2007 12:06 (sixteen years ago) link

i'm sorry but when has good rap had anything to do with "honesty"

da croupier, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:32 (sixteen years ago) link

reading your livejournal over some draggy metal pomp is not commendable

da croupier, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:35 (sixteen years ago) link

putting scarequotes around a word noone else has even used in the thread: classic or dud

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:38 (sixteen years ago) link

look two posts above mine, dude. and kenan's too. wtf.

da croupier, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:39 (sixteen years ago) link

ctrl + f has failed me :(

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:40 (sixteen years ago) link

yeah I added a "y", sorry.

da croupier, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Is that Chris Martin playing the barrelhouse pianner? If so, I want him doing session work.

Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:43 (sixteen years ago) link

anyway I agree that "Big Brother" is kinda lumbering and is probably gonna end up really overrated. but in the context of the album it really does cut through all the vague 'universal' stadium rock lyrics on the rest of the album. (xp)

Alex in Baltimore, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:47 (sixteen years ago) link

translate espanol no way jose

Jordan Sargent, Thursday, 13 September 2007 15:48 (sixteen years ago) link


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