that los lobos complaint seems a little farfetched to me, i mean if that was paul simon's m.o. we'd have heard much more about it right? he would've been sued a million times.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:46 (twelve years ago) link
paul simon prob just decided he didnt like Los lobos
― lag∞n, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:48 (twelve years ago) link
more like los locos amirite?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Friday, 17 February 2012 19:53 (twelve years ago) link
paul was like: "more like los blow-me-bros"
― tylerw, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:54 (twelve years ago) link
'los you want credit for what sry I cant hear u will all this money and African music in my ears'
― lag∞n, Friday, 17 February 2012 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
los lobos more like those bozos wont be able to stop me, the great paul simon, from stealing all their cool music and girlfriends
― 99x (Lamp), Saturday, 18 February 2012 02:54 (twelve years ago) link
How Will the Wolf Survive? Who cares, I'm Paul Simon.
― tylerw, Saturday, 18 February 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link
paul simon killed baby jesus
― Poliopolice, Saturday, 18 February 2012 06:32 (twelve years ago) link
His Electric Bass is a Terminator Seed
― ‘Neuroscience’ and ‘near death’ pepper (Eazy), Saturday, 18 February 2012 07:12 (twelve years ago) link
Okay so..
http://www.paulsimon.com/us/graceland25
http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/2012/apr/19/paul-simon-graceland-acclaim-outrage
docu looks great. it's showing as a 'Primetime Special' in the States it says here.
― piscesx, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 13:17 (twelve years ago) link
Can't wait to see this... especially after Berlinger's work on "Some Kind of Monster"
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:18 (twelve years ago) link
wish it'd been Paul Simon: Some Kind of Monster
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:19 (twelve years ago) link
Los Lobos finally break their horrible silence
― Poliopolice, Tuesday, 24 April 2012 14:33 (twelve years ago) link
interesting piece on this album: http://www.firstofthemonth.org/archives/2009/08/at_ease_in_azan.html
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
ollowing “Homeless,” Simon tells us, “I don’t want no part of this crazy love.” For a record that pretends to reclaim rock-n-roll verities, this is an odd stance. The celebration of crazy love, the crazier the better, has been at the heart of the music. To surrender such nutsiness may be the merest prudence, but it is untrue to the deepest impulses of the music Simon has laid claim to here.
an odd attitude
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:46 (twelve years ago) link
I don't know what "rock and roll verities" are now or were in 1986.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
how the fuck does graceland even have anything to do with rock and roll verities?
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 00:56 (twelve years ago) link
what a weird thing to fixate on
― Poliopolice, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 01:00 (twelve years ago) link
token Foucault reference too
When the article concentrates on musicianship it's solid though.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 01:01 (twelve years ago) link
Now, Paul Simon is not to be specially faulted if his last record matters less than the elimination of chattel slavery on this continent.
ok no i can't do this
― call all destroyer, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 01:28 (twelve years ago) link
that "now" comma
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 01:35 (twelve years ago) link
how does someone write this and sleep at night?
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 02:17 (twelve years ago) link
the article's at least 80% bullshit, but i find it oddly...compelling, somehow? like, he's got sentence after sentence that makes no apparent sense at all ("the merest prudence"?), yet he retains that weird, arrogant, see-this-is-how-it-really-is attitude throughout. it's like someone crossed armond white with a drunk greil marcus.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:43 (twelve years ago) link
the result of that union would have to be put down immediately, i would think, to spare itself and the human race.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 04:51 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno. i think the basic thrust of the article is sound: paul simon used african musicians and music, at a time of great crisis in south africa, in a way that lent an aura of dramatic import and moment to graceland without ever really moving outside the small sphere of his own personal concerns. this may not have been simon's intent (a point conveniently elided), but it was nonetheless the effect. he refused to really engage with the political dimensions of the "material" he was using, choosing instead to throw sops to the idea of political engagement while concentrating more fully on music as music, the political as personal. it's a fair criticism, though not a particularly toothy one in my view.
― THE KITTEN TYPE (contenderizer), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 05:36 (twelve years ago) link
it's like someone crossed armond white with a drunk greil marcus.
i suggest we kill it before it multiplies
― I accidentally sonned your dome (stevie), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 06:36 (twelve years ago) link
I agree that it's smarter and more riveting than a piece that gets so many things wrong should be. But boy, the howlers.
from Foucault’s conclusion to Madness and Civilization: “The moment when, together, the work of art and madness are born and fulfilled is the beginning of the time when the world finds itself arraigned by that work of art and responsible for what it is.” I don’t think Graceland works that way.)
― And I have been called "The Appetite" (DL), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 11:31 (twelve years ago) link
To surrender such nutsiness may be the merest prudence, but it is untrue to the deepest impulses of the music Simon has laid claim to here.
Anyone who was married to Carrie Fisher has got nothing to prove on the crazy love front.
― something of an astrological coup (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 13:57 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.thedreamerofmusic.org/BIOGRAPHY/WIVES/image011.jpgjust saw this pic and wondered what in the lord's name was the deal with the hat.
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
what to do when your roommate doesn't realize you're home and thusly is having loud sex in the living room
― Doctor Casino, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:43 (twelve years ago) link
i dunno. i think the basic thrust of the article is sound: paul simon used african musicians and music, at a time of great crisis in south africa, in a way that lent an aura of dramatic import and moment to graceland without ever really moving outside the small sphere of his own personal concerns.
this is (a) already nearly conventional wisdom and (b) not very interesting anyway.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:45 (twelve years ago) link
Just googled that hat for about 10 minutes to no avail :(
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Wednesday, 25 April 2012 15:59 (twelve years ago) link
it's like, why so glum, hat-guy! your wife is a total fox!
― tylerw, Wednesday, 25 April 2012 16:06 (twelve years ago) link
new Graceland documentary airing on A&E tonight!
― some dude, Saturday, 26 May 2012 01:56 (twelve years ago) link
This is fascinating: he's so *abstract* about his songwriting; it's about the *patterns* in the rhythms.
― Euler, Saturday, 26 May 2012 02:59 (twelve years ago) link
it makes sense to me, i've always thought of his stuff as being very driven by rhythm and meter
― some dude, Saturday, 26 May 2012 03:11 (twelve years ago) link
i've watched that "Diamonds" performance on SNL so many times and i had no idea that they'd booked that appearance before the album release was delayed, and recorded that song while in New York for the show. nobody had ever heard that song before that broadcast! i can't even imagine how exciting that would've been.
― some dude, Saturday, 26 May 2012 03:15 (twelve years ago) link
whoa that is crazy
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 26 May 2012 03:29 (twelve years ago) link
Thanks for the tip! Enjoying this.
― she started dancing to that (Finefinemusic), Saturday, 26 May 2012 03:43 (twelve years ago) link
related: http://www.evtv1.com/player.aspx?itemnum=5609
― all things must pass (shaane), Saturday, 26 May 2012 08:54 (twelve years ago) link
new doc on BBC uk tomorrow http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b01kkn74
― piscesx, Monday, 2 July 2012 16:10 (eleven years ago) link
i just watched the "classic albums" special on this album (on netflix streaming). cool to see how chopped up/edited the whole thing was.
― tylerw, Monday, 2 July 2012 16:11 (eleven years ago) link
Thanks for the tip, compulsory viewing by the looks.
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 July 2012 17:06 (eleven years ago) link
the new doc was on Irish tv on Saturday night, it's excellent. recommended viewing even if you are already very familiar with the classic albums doc (as I was).
― Volvo Twilight (p-dog), Monday, 2 July 2012 18:05 (eleven years ago) link
also, this: http://www.kleptones.com/blog/2012/06/28/hectic-city-15-paths-to-graceland/
a creative reconstruction of the mixtape that inspired Simon to go to Africa and make some music
― shaane, Monday, 2 July 2012 18:49 (eleven years ago) link
wow that looks great, thanks!
― tylerw, Monday, 2 July 2012 19:03 (eleven years ago) link
yeah! 1 hour 15 minutes of summery African pop beats.
― shaane, Monday, 2 July 2012 19:23 (eleven years ago) link
and "speaking the deep truths that artists speak" as paul simon opines on the bbc clip...
it would be nice if the talking heads didn't get in the way of fine music.
― For bodies we are ready to build pyramids (whatever), Monday, 2 July 2012 19:57 (eleven years ago) link
Only had time to check out the first minute of that tape, but I'm sold already - will listen again
― Ismael Klata, Monday, 2 July 2012 20:55 (eleven years ago) link
finally watching the new doc from the begining--LOVE the early jam version of boy in the bubble
― call all destroyer, Friday, 13 July 2012 01:04 (eleven years ago) link