Oh god, back to the Bill Laswell thing again.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
imagine Whitney singing in Last Exit.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 February 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
It's easy if I don't try.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 13 February 2012 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
so emotional and how will i know reallythink i'm picking the latter.
― little clouds of citrus spritz as i peel (forksclovetofu), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:58 (twelve years ago) link
Never liked "I Will Always Love You." The bombastic treatment is so totally wrong for the simple eloquence of the song. Plus that fucking sax solo. And the modulation. "I Have Nothing" so much better as big-ballad numbers go, so basically Greg, Alex and Al OTM way upthread.
Am working on getting acquainted with the post-Bodyguard stuff, which I mostly didn't know except "Exhale" and "It's Not Right But It's Okay." For now, though, "How Will I Know" by a mile.
― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:07 (twelve years ago) link
For someone who only released 7 studio albums, she sure had a lot of singles, tho, huh? 29 top 40 hits, all in a 16-year span.
― wolf cola, everyone (thewufs), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:12 (twelve years ago) link
How Will I Know / I Have NothingIt's Not Right But It's OkayI Want To Dance With SomebodySaving All My Love For YouI'm Your Baby TonightLove Will Save The DayHeartbreak Hotel (Remix)I'm Every WomanMy Love Is Your Love
― Tim F, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:34 (twelve years ago) link
The key change in "I Have Nothing" is one of the most spinetingling things ever.
Enough! Y'all have swayed me. I'll listen to "I Have Nothing" again.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 13 February 2012 22:35 (twelve years ago) link
I think what distinguishes it from other divastraganzas (e.g. "Without You" or "All By Myself", say) is how dangerous it sounds, both in its obsessive intensity and also in its vertiginousness. Whitney sounds like she takes a run-up to the key change with a flying leap over a bottomless chasm.
― Tim F, Monday, 13 February 2012 22:39 (twelve years ago) link
Listening to the second album on Spotify and it sounds like an '87-era mastering job! Interesting that a record like that would languish so long without being remastered.
― timellison, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
the second Whitney album is a giant pile of festering penises
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:35 (twelve years ago) link
I asked about the third album on the other thread but got no responses. Hot or not?
― Tim F, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 04:47 (twelve years ago) link
"I'm Your Baby Tonight" is the only one of her songs I'll admit to liking IRL so that's my vote.
"How Will I Know" is ok. "All The Man I Need" is her best ballad IMO.
― billstevejim, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 07:50 (twelve years ago) link
"I Have Nothing" and "I'm Every Woman" sounded the best to me the last couple days.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:03 (twelve years ago) link
Well, and always.
― dead-trius (Eric H.), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:04 (twelve years ago) link
million dollar bill gonna top this
― Dick Townwolves (Captain Ahab), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 08:18 (twelve years ago) link
I'd totally forgotten about 'Queen Of The Night' until I happened upon an obligatory airing of The Bodyguard yesterday. A pretty fierce jam, a la En Vogue. Just wanna point out that it shouldn't be slept on.
Probably always gonna be 'Love Will Save The Day' for me, though.
― SNEEZED GOING DOWN STEPS, PAIN WHEN PUTTING SOCKS ON (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 10:44 (twelve years ago) link
it's not right but it's ok
― lag∞n affiliated (The Reverend), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 15:40 (twelve years ago) link
BTW I actually voted for "Saving All My Love For You", stone cold classic ballad, right up there with the greatest of all time.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:11 (twelve years ago) link
what is it about "Million Dollar Bill" that ppl find appealing
― I spend a lot of time thinking about apricots (DJP), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:12 (twelve years ago) link
xpost -- Confession -- I loathed that song when it first hit, to the point where I would turn off the radio when I heard it start. ("You Give Good Love" I happily adored.)
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.
― System, Friday, 17 February 2012 00:01 (twelve years ago) link
She had a great voice but all of her songs are borefests imho. Is there any single in here that isn't an over-emotional ballad?
― Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 06:25 (twelve years ago) link
yes
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 February 2012 06:26 (twelve years ago) link
You know, something in the 3 minute mark that doesn't feel like the aural equivalent of a diabetic coma?
― Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 06:28 (twelve years ago) link
I need examples, kevin! pretty please?
― Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 06:29 (twelve years ago) link
if you don't like "how will I know" you should prob give up, yeah
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 February 2012 06:30 (twelve years ago) link
:(
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 February 2012 06:41 (twelve years ago) link
I've just listened to it and I didn't like it :/. It still has all the problems I find in her music; corny synth strings, unnecesary bombast like the sax solo and the filler guitar riffs and the chorus is drilled into your brain 64 times before the song ends.
She had a great, powerful voice... pairing it with excessive gimmicks and maximalist choruses that keep on adding muso rubbish each new bar is overload for me.
― Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 06:43 (twelve years ago) link
Sorry, I tried :(
You are the devil.
― Tim F, Friday, 17 February 2012 06:50 (twelve years ago) link
^ p much :(
― ploppawheelie V (k3vin k.), Friday, 17 February 2012 07:00 (twelve years ago) link
Her first two albums were produced by the same person that brought us Kenny G so I'm not surprised I find no love in my heart for her music. She was typecasted into milquetoast territory since her early days.
― Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 07:02 (twelve years ago) link
Now you are a dog latin devil.
― Tim F, Friday, 17 February 2012 07:02 (twelve years ago) link
i prefer my Whitney as A+ effervescent dance-pop: How Will I Know vs. I Wanna Dance w/ Somebody vs. So Emotional
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Friday, 17 February 2012 07:07 (twelve years ago) link
Ok, I'm sorry... I'll find my way out of this thread. I just wanted to check if there was something in her entire discography that was different from what I've heard from her and which I might have overlooked.
― Moka, Friday, 17 February 2012 07:18 (twelve years ago) link
voted how will i know. nothing else even comes close, such a jam.
― psychgawsple, Friday, 17 February 2012 07:21 (twelve years ago) link
I almost forgot to vote! *forehead slap*
― Janet Snakehole (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 17 February 2012 07:27 (twelve years ago) link
"It Isn't, It Wasn't, It Ain't Never Gonna Be" holds up really well. the vid is shameful tho
i also dig her sprechgesang in "I'm Your Baby Tonight" right after the chorus. she had a thing for fast vocal delivery, too bad she became a melismatic nutso instead
― cock chirea, Friday, 17 February 2012 08:02 (twelve years ago) link
How Will I Know vs. I Wanna Dance w/ Somebody vs. So Emotional
OK, scratch So Emotional. It has some fine payoff moments, but the production is cluttery & i could really do without the constant shredding. the chorus is great, though! (which, I guess, must be why I remember it being a favorite, when in fact it is not)
the other two, though.. The vox on HWIK are untouchable, and IWDWS is just pure aces all around. hmmm
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Friday, 17 February 2012 08:15 (twelve years ago) link
voted "i have nothing"
― first period don't give a fuck, second period gon get cut (lex pretend), Friday, 17 February 2012 08:17 (twelve years ago) link
Good choice.
I keep wavering b/w that and "How Will I Know".
DO-ONT. MAAKE. MEEEE. CLO-OSE!!! ONE MORE DOOOOOOOR.
― Tim F, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:09 (twelve years ago) link
Moka, try I'm Your Baby Tonight. new jack excellence
― gospodin simmel, Friday, 17 February 2012 10:20 (twelve years ago) link
surprised no one told moka to try "it's not right but it's okay" or "my love is your love" which are the classic whitney songs for the "finally she's not doing power ballads and is singing over ~kool beatz~" crew
― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:22 (twelve years ago) link
(but for all that they are still amazing)
― if u leave imma crank wu-tang in my black matte truck (lex pretend), Friday, 17 February 2012 10:23 (twelve years ago) link
Listening to "Didn't We Almost Have It All". This song makes me think of my dad so much. His favourite pop song is probably "That's What Friends Are For". I don't really understand this approach to pop (for him I think it's the broadway resemblance), but it makes me think of my family home too much for me to hate it.
― Tim F, Friday, 17 February 2012 12:01 (twelve years ago) link
had to go w/ How Will I Know. anything else would have been a lie.
― Jurgis Rudkus // Dick Butkus (Pillbox), Friday, 17 February 2012 12:56 (twelve years ago) link
My Love Is Your Love
― The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Friday, 17 February 2012 13:06 (twelve years ago) link
As Lex/Tim foresaw upthread, I'm not a big fan of the power ballads (although I appreciate her voice is incredible on these). My Love Is Your Love has such an incredible groove though...
― The Invisible Superstars (dog latin), Friday, 17 February 2012 13:09 (twelve years ago) link