wau Pearlman was the founding VP of eMusic?
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 9 February 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
He was also Sabbath's manager for a short amount of time in the Dio era.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:47 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah that stupid sketch makes it even harder to find good info on an already under reported band, watched that one matt 2 was talking abt
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Thursday, 9 February 2012 18:49 (twelve years ago) link
A steadfast young bro goes through the discography track by track. Many quotables. I like him, he's got heart:
http://www.hotrails.co.uk/blueskybag/features/jacobkoehler/index.htm
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:09 (twelve years ago) link
holy crap that's a lot of cultwork. impressive, though a bit overwhelming.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Thursday, 9 February 2012 22:47 (twelve years ago) link
Check out the intricate detail on the skull; it looks as if it is saying "Yes young man....come and follow me to worlds unknown...". I took the ride and have not regretted it one bit.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Thursday, 9 February 2012 23:02 (twelve years ago) link
Otm
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 February 2012 00:24 (twelve years ago) link
I love that guy. His favorite BOC album is "Tyranny..." which is the right answer. Plus he looks like early '70s Joe Bouchard.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:25 (twelve years ago) link
Yeah I'm sad he quit before doing the whole catalog :(
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 February 2012 14:49 (twelve years ago) link
picked up a really nice copy of On Your Feet Or On Your Knees on saturday for $5! :)
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 16:53 (twelve years ago) link
i honestly don't have a desire to listen to any other music right now
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 17:45 (twelve years ago) link
On Your Feet would be a good candidate for those remastering jobs they were doing a few years back.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Monday, 13 February 2012 17:48 (twelve years ago) link
this vinyl pressing sounds pretty great, so much better than what i was listening to on computer
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 17:49 (twelve years ago) link
yeah, OYFOOYK is great. one of the last cult albums i got around to, as i'd heard from someone that it wasn't all that great. lies! better than the album versions in some cases ("harvester of eyes" <3). always struck by the super-sharp division in sound between the tracks off the first and third albums and the T&M tracks. makes sense that studio albums might have a different vibe, but they almost sound like a different band on "hot rails to hell" and "the red & the black".
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 13 February 2012 17:56 (twelve years ago) link
yeah harvester of eyes is way better, as is last days of may and the subhuman jam is fucking unreal
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:03 (twelve years ago) link
between the horror of spaceand the terror of timemy heart is crystaldown the line...i'm screaming
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:06 (twelve years ago) link
It really does belong with Live 1969 and The Blow Up and Aghartha in that pantheon of double live benificent monoliths. One has to conclude at this point that the Legacy remasters won't include it, which is FUCKING DUMB.
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:12 (twelve years ago) link
yeah especially because columbia apparently needs to release a new greatest hit comp about every 6 months
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:54 (twelve years ago) link
Some of which are live without saying so! Knees really could use the remaster too, the sound on the CD is meh. I wonder if anyone has a sweet vinyl rip in the blogosphere, like that great Raw Power one Tyler linked to a couple years ago...
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:58 (twelve years ago) link
yeah listening to the vinyl it's like a whole 'nother record
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 18:59 (twelve years ago) link
i like how they START with a mega-jam on The Subhuman that basically sounds like a "last song" jam, like "buckle up!"
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 19:00 (twelve years ago) link
well how about that!
via wikipedia:
[Rudy] Sarzo was born Rodolfo Maximiliano Sarzo Lavieille Grande Ruiz Payret y Chaumont,[1] in Havana, Cuba on November 18, 1950. He emigrated to the United States in 1961.
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:29 (twelve years ago) link
dang, now that's a name
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:31 (twelve years ago) link
How do you pick Rudy Sarzo as yr stage name when you could just easily be MAX GRANDE?
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:39 (twelve years ago) link
there's literally like 10 great stage names in that name
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:40 (twelve years ago) link
Rodolfo Maximiliano Sarzo Lavieille Grande Ruiz Payret y Chaumont would have looked great on the credits of a Whitesnake sleeve.
― _~~_~~_~~_~~_~~_~~_~~_~~_~~ (Matt #2), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:41 (twelve years ago) link
He looks like a MAX GRANDE
― chr1sb3singer, Monday, 13 February 2012 21:42 (twelve years ago) link
rapper Grande Paycrooner Rodolfo Max Sarzo
and so on
― demolition with discretion (m coleman), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:43 (twelve years ago) link
Payret y Chaumont
^^that's a hella expensive champagne
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 13 February 2012 21:44 (twelve years ago) link
Does anyone have any love for Extraterrestrial Live?
I am loving this BOC thread. That E Bloom interview is the nuts!
― broom air, Tuesday, 14 February 2012 01:55 (twelve years ago) link
Sarzo was born Rodolfo Maximiliano Sarzo Lavieille Grande Ruiz Payret y Chaumont,[1] in Havana, Cuba on November 18, 1950. He emigrated to the United States in 1961.
Did he come over on a raft made up of his extra names
― the box cutter killer from the calcutta gutter (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:49 (twelve years ago) link
this thread slays so hard you people are awesome
― unlistenable in philly (underrated aerosmith bootlegs I have owned), Tuesday, 14 February 2012 02:51 (twelve years ago) link
I still think the "Godzilla" from Some Enchanted Evening is one of the very best BOC tunes. It's such a powerful performance. I Dj that all the time.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 05:56 (twelve years ago) link
Just friend requested John Shirley, thanks to this thread. He added me within minutes. Talk about cyberpunk.
― Nate Carson, Wednesday, 15 February 2012 06:05 (twelve years ago) link
cyberpunk as fuck!
― Axolotl with an Atlatl (Jon Lewis), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:01 (twelve years ago) link
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, February 13, 2012 10:03 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark
dropped out for a couple days, but it's interesting to me that the best songs on OYFOOYN (imo, and apparently iyo, too) are the quieter, less aggressive tunes from the first and third albums. like, to my mind, it's all about "subhuman", "harvester", "last days of may" and "before the kiss". if it weren't for that tragically overlong, noodly breakdown, i'd add "ME262" to that list. much more raw and energetic than either the studio original or the live version tacked onto the extended some enchanted evening. need to make an edit, i guess...
speaking of SOE, it deserves more love itt. "r u ready 2 rock" is a dumb lead track, and i don't care about either of the covers*, but the faster take on "godzilla" is great (nate OTM there), and i think the live versions of "ETI" and especially "astronomy" flat blow the originals away. the only way in which it's worse than OYF is that it's only half as long.
* i can't think of a band i like that's been so ill-served by their cover choices. no one on this earth needs rote takes on the likes of "born to be wild" and "roadhouse blues". and while they do a bit better on "kick out the jams" and "we gotta get outta this place", when it comes to these songs, it's not like i ever think "well, the original is great, but you know, i really wanna hear the BOC version."
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:35 (twelve years ago) link
― broom air, Monday, February 13, 2012 5:55 PM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
wish i did, but no, not really. weirds me out that allmusic trashes on your feet and shrugs off some enchanted evening, saving their "the one to own" praise for extraterrestrial. it's a great selection of songs and the band delivers them capably, but it's pretty dull compared the the other two. the sound is big in the 80s style but rather canned and plodding. none of the songs really compete with the original versions, and why the thin, cheezy sound effects in "black blade" and "joan crawford"? do like the call-and-response bit at the end of "dominance and submission" (one of my favorite BOC tunes), but i miss the weird devo nerdiness of the original.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
real talk: when i was in HS, i bought this cheap-o BOC greatest hits CD that had the live verison of "kick out the jams" from SOE on it.
i always feel guilty but i felt that way the first time i heard it and everytime since...the MC5 version (which i didn't hear much later in college) always seems kinda slow and ploddy and not-rocking compared to the BOC version IMO
like i feel bad for thinking that but i do :/
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
Isnt Maserati GT a Yardbirds song? They crush that song on On Your Feet....
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i think it's a yardbirds tune
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:51 (twelve years ago) link
weirds me out that allmusic trashes on your feet
i actually kinda like the gonzo dumb arena theatrics of extraterrestrial live a lot but it's weird to me that they would trash on your feet, which the other two aren't even in the realm of IMO
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:52 (twelve years ago) link
re UMS: lol, me too. i heard the SOE live version of "kick out the jams" long before i ever heard the MC5 (courtesy of the columbia record and tape club who sent me the BOC album by mistake). was my intro to both bands, really, tho i'd heard "don't fear the reaper" on the radio. seriously loved BOC's cover at the time, was maybe my favorite track on the album, but i tend to skip it nowadays. not sure why.
re bill: i may be in the minority here, but i only like the first minute and a half of "maserati GT", when it sounds like a coda to "before the kiss". the song itself i could do without, but then i'm not a big fan of bluesy, jammy hard rock.
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:57 (twelve years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FYbAWZ8yPks
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 16:58 (twelve years ago) link
[tilt]
― Little GTFO (contenderizer), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:08 (twelve years ago) link
90s FMV game featuring the music of Blue Oyster Cult and a pre-cowbell-era Christopher Walken
― Emperor Cos Dashit (Adam Bruneau), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:17 (twelve years ago) link
walken goes hard in that trailer!
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 17:31 (twelve years ago) link
the song itself i could do without, but then i'm not a big fan of bluesy, jammy hard rock
^fair. I am a big fan of that kind of stuff, however.
― You're a notch, I'm a legend (Bill Magill), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 19:58 (twelve years ago) link
I can't speak for the live "BTBW" cover, but I feel the b-side studio version is a fantastic re-tooling of the original.
― Mike Love Costume Jewelry on Etsy (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 15 February 2012 20:31 (twelve years ago) link
Very interesting point about the covers. You would think they would be savvier about it. Maserati GT is pretty hip though. Someone should do a comp of others' covers of BOC. Mike Watt is a huge fan, as you must all know.
I listened to ETL all the time when I was a kid but haven't for years. I remember thinking that the version of Hot Rails to Hell was the nuts. I also had no love for On Your Feet or On Your Knees as a laddie, so I'm glad this thread brought me back to it. I do miss the production that the studio records bring -- they are pretty good at getting good sounds -- but good grief is the band on fire on that record. It's almost exhausting to listen to.
The other reason for this post is that I can't quite bear to see this thread fall off the front page of ILXOR
― broom air, Sunday, 19 February 2012 00:50 (twelve years ago) link
Lol otm re: your last point
― black Emanuelle did costume design for Troll 2 (Drugs A. Money), Sunday, 19 February 2012 03:01 (twelve years ago) link