althoguh my familiarity w/ a lot of other artists only extends as far as "i saw their name on a website (usually ilx) a couple times, couldn't tell you a thing about them"
Same. A few of them (e.g., Danny Brown) I hadn't encountered until they started showing up on year-end lists/blog posts/roundtables.
― Girl I want to take you to a JBR (jaymc), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 03:58 (twelve years ago) link
The critical establishment's dogmatic popism eliminates any consideration of the philosophy surrounding the creative and commercial genesis of music and elevates the aesthetic, so whatever sounds best must be best, and now somehow independent music has wound up in a place where Beyoncé is on the same purely aesthetic playing field that Sharon Van Etten is, because it makes you powerfully, stinkingly uncool to point out that Beyoncé is a meticulously calculated, choreographed, and focus group-approved product of the same system that Sharon Van Etten's forebears in independent music rose up as a direct response to. Suddenly Sharon Van Etten sounds a little thin without the help of a billion-dollar machine. Like Mitt Romney said: "Corporations are people, too, my friend."David Shapiro
nice terrible comment here
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:57 PM (5 minutes ago)
wow
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:05 (twelve years ago) link
thnx @ jordan, I really like Scott PL's essay
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:06 (twelve years ago) link
PRR comin' out swingin'
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:08 (twelve years ago) link
primarily for putting in perspective music that I don't follow particularly closely. It's hard to give these results shape but he did a really good job of it imo xp to myself
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:09 (twelve years ago) link
lol two difft people just tweeted at me that they thought scott seward's comment was mine b/c of the formatting. kind of lol to imagine me writing that one
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:12 (twelve years ago) link
& it looks like alfred wrote my comment
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:13 (twelve years ago) link
Also, why the kvetching about Drake when "Moves Like Jagger" somehow got 11 votes.
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:14 (twelve years ago) link
newest tori amos album didn't get a single solitary vote, damn
― fighting growlbacks bottomless spirit pit (reddening), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:21 (twelve years ago) link
Ha that David Shapiro comment is sooo close to being an MM post about Lady Gaga and autotune and Satanism
― pass the hatchet i think i'm gordon (Drugs A. Money), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:27 (twelve years ago) link
That's what happens when glenn mcdonald does metal-only ballots.
P.S. - Hi, glenn!
xpost
― Who wants to see the great Pavarotti sit on a pie? (jer.fairall), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:28 (twelve years ago) link
dude, deej, i thought i wrote this when i first saw it and i got scared:
Scott Seward Greenfield, Massachusetts
Bon Iver, James Blake, M83, and Girls. Why aren't our heroes pissing more people off? Why are they so polite?
― scott seward, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:32 (twelve years ago) link
good comment tho
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:33 (twelve years ago) link
wait if maura did pazz and jop, who did jackin' pop this year?
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:34 (twelve years ago) link
clemenza comments v much in character
― tebow gotti (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:36 (twelve years ago) link
https://twitter.com/#!/somanyshrimp/status/159492720224780288
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:44 (twelve years ago) link
what song are you guys singing the thread title to?
― 誤 means 訳. 訳 means 侮辱. (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:46 (twelve years ago) link
duke of earl innit
― Display Name (this cannot be changed):, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 04:55 (twelve years ago) link
robbie and becky, duh
― maura, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:02 (twelve years ago) link
i shit on stereogum from time to time but the two ballots closest to mine were from guys that work there so maybe i should stfu
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:05 (twelve years ago) link
<3 j0rdan for voting for patrick stump
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:14 (twelve years ago) link
yes, thankfully p&j ballots are due later than anything
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:15 (twelve years ago) link
Does the phrase "jazz and pop" sound unnatural to anyone itt?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:19 (twelve years ago) link
college - a real hero
seen this song pop up on ballots of three ppl i checked for, never heard of it in my entire life
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:21 (twelve years ago) link
oh it's from the drive soundtrack, durr
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:22 (twelve years ago) link
yeah i say "durr" whenever people rep for the drive soundtrack too
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:26 (twelve years ago) link
spoiler alert: it sounds like m83
for some reason "sure thing" is credited everywhere as miguel ft. j. cole
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:28 (twelve years ago) link
yeah some kind of mixup with "all i want is you" -- i already pointed that out to glenn to hopefully fix
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:34 (twelve years ago) link
listened to stump for the first time tonight, i should fuck with this more
― this is funny u bitter dork (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:37 (twelve years ago) link
whiney why are u posting tweets here?
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:41 (twelve years ago) link
i was kind of annoyed that it seems like everyone is crediting "zan with that lean" to soulja boy instead of kwony cash
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:42 (twelve years ago) link
Great comments this year from Alfred.
― Mark, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
I really like Scott PL's essay
i think hes p much totally wrong in the way hes interpreting the results tbh. esp in that i dont think underground music has reacted to increased hype cycles/technological immediacy by becoming more homogeneous and conservative and that ppl arent making 'bold and brave' (lol) weirdo music? also my gut feeling is that this poll has never and probably will have much overlap with 'the underground's more discerning ears' (and giving that title to the dude who runs gorilla vs bear is just...). we kinda had this argument in last year's ilm poll but what whiney called 'avant-indie' is by nature marginal and anti-consensus and so is going to fair poorly in these polls.
― HOOS steen is it anyway? (Lamp), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:43 (twelve years ago) link
who's that? i've only seen that song credited to soulja boy and there's no mention of kwony cash in the first page of google results for the song. (xpost)
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:44 (twelve years ago) link
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, January 18, 2012 12:42 AM (1 minute ago) Bookmark
well you do realize that the songs get formatted so it all says one thing, right? like, no voters for miguel's "sure thing" credited as a j. cole feature, let alone every voter
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:44 (twelve years ago) link
kwony cash sings the hook -- deej's post just now is worded wrong in that it makes it seem like kwony cash should be credited for the entire song as opposed to just a feature
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:45 (twelve years ago) link
i read that it was kwony cash's song originally & soulja boy jumped on it & rereleased it
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:47 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.hotnewhiphop.com/zachariahsodmg-zan-lean-feat-kwony-cash-j-money-song.324503.html
Add me to the list of people who had never heard of tUnE-yArDs. I opened the main page for P&J and my first thought was that somebody had hacked the VV's website.
― NoTimeBeforeTime, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:48 (twelve years ago) link
oh nev mind that's just mistitled. idk
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:48 (twelve years ago) link
that song is wack anyway imo
"my city" and "weed shoes" >>>
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:48 (twelve years ago) link
damn, there goes hotnewhiphop.com's credibility
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:49 (twelve years ago) link
& also deej's, but oh well
but seriously wtf was whiney trying to say by posting that tweet? that by writing about it here i cant also mention it on twitter? idgi
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:50 (twelve years ago) link
― tyga mother (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:49 PM (37 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
wtf are you on about?
maybe you should talk to him about this on twitter. just a thought.
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:50 (twelve years ago) link
i think 'zan w/ that lean' is aite, def preferred 'weed and shoes' too though
― Reginald "Bono" Dwight (some dude), Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:50 PM (8 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
hes posting about it here though, not tweeting about ilx, thankfully
just noticed i'm the sole voter for like 75% of my ballot smh lol
― The Brainwasher, Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:51 (twelve years ago) link
anyway jordan, even if that wasn't the case -- although I could swear I read something about the song existing in a pre-Soulja Boy version -- kwony cash is the one who made the hook & the hook is p much the best part of the song
― I Love Pedantry (D-40), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 05:51 (twelve years ago) link