I'm mostly just repeating what lamp said but in limiting 'rock' to gnr and nirvana '4 guys w/ guitars' you're using the term, well, I guess how a lot of people use the term, but it misses the scope of 'rock' as a tradition / wider scope of aesthetics.
xp to DAM's post 10 minutes ago
― iatee, Tuesday, 17 January 2012 14:58 (twelve years ago) link
I see the point with that; as I mentioned I am just quibbling with something very specific that was said itt
― incredible shrinking man on euphonium (Drugs A. Money), Tuesday, 17 January 2012 15:02 (twelve years ago) link
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-16609484
video from bbc breakfast news about rock vs pop
― Jimmy Riddle Orchestra (Armand Schaubroeck Ratfucker), Wednesday, 18 January 2012 15:54 (twelve years ago) link
one could argue that dance is just as 'dead' by any stretch of the imagination if you look at thishttp://www.mixmag.net/words/news/mixmags-greatest-dance-act-revealed
― piscesx, Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:10 (twelve years ago) link
a lot of this is starting to back up the theory that Reynolds first talked about in this piece; http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2009/dec/07/musically-fragmented-decade
― piscesx, Thursday, 19 January 2012 13:13 (twelve years ago) link
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/music_blog/2012/02/grammys-2012-the-junking-of-commercial-rock-music.html
Commercial rock has painted itself into a corner because it seldom surprises, seldom swings, and no longer possesses the creative authority to drive a conversation the way that pop, hip-hop and electronic dance music do. Innovation is discouraged, the exception being Radiohead (who can barely be considered “commercial rock” at this point), whose experimentation has become nearly as codified as Mastodon’s able riffs.
Radiohead...zzzz
― curmudgeon, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:09 (twelve years ago) link
I actually had to scroll down to realize that was Bruno Mars in that photo. Don't think I'd actually seen any photo of him before.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:18 (twelve years ago) link
And you know:
“Every Teardrop is a Waterfall” by Coldplay
Every time I think it's impossible to want to beat these people more soundly, they do something else to cause me to rethink.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:19 (twelve years ago) link
Also:
Even the alternative music album category, the place where the Grammys normally lets their freak flag fly, ignored acclaimed work by St. Vincent, Kate Bush, Wild Flag, Tuneyards and St. Vincent, among dozens of others.
Most of whom are called St. Vincent.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:25 (twelve years ago) link
And finally, Skrillex!
The insane Skrillex bass-drop that has become the electronic producer’s trademark is the sound of the new distortion, one that’s way fresher and more suggestive of youth alienation right now than three chords and a scream. No Grammy-nominated artist this year made a more innovative and aggressive record than Skrillex, which doesn’t necessarily make him a visionary as much as he is a portent: His noise and rebellion emanates from a laptop and not through a distortion pedal.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:28 (twelve years ago) link
ffs
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:40 (twelve years ago) link
sigh
Since when did rock dudes making music in a genre once known as “the sound of the city” enjoy hiking in the woods so much?You can almost feel the dewy bliss of nature dripping into your ears — and in the perfect world, Adele’s “Rolling in the Deep,” arguably the most durable rock ’n’ roll song of the year, would be the avalanche that crushed the entire scene.
You can almost feel the dewy bliss of nature dripping into your ears — and in the perfect world, Adele’s “Rolling in the Deep,” arguably the most durable rock ’n’ roll song of the year, would be the avalanche that crushed the entire scene.
yeah Adele is the one to save rock music . lol America.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:42 (twelve years ago) link
wait a min, why are Sum 41 still getting nominated?
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
i traded my laptop for a distortion pedal
― TracerHandVEVO (Tracer Hand), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
*merges gentle folk and soft rock with expansive post-rock structures*
― buzza, Friday, 10 February 2012 16:43 (twelve years ago) link
oh hear we go
Is the distinction that exists between so-called rock music and hard rock music the subject matter, the type of guitar distortion boxes used, and the quality of falsetto? Probably. It’s a battle between cavemen and nature boys, at least a little testosterone required. Where do the lines blur, and why? Is it a subtle class distinction — the blue-collar hard rockers versus the more “erudite” rock artists?
i think i'll stop reading now that hard rock = caveman thing has come up. Pathetic
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:44 (twelve years ago) link
*here
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:45 (twelve years ago) link
to find out which prat wrote this i need to scroll down. Fuck that i'll let someone who did read it all tell me
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
"able riffs"
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:46 (twelve years ago) link
lol @ that bruno mars pic btw
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:47 (twelve years ago) link
i hope someone points out to him that its not rock musics fault, its the morons at the grammys who select these things. There's plenty of great music out there.Brits season will be up soon too, where they will say Adele saved pop music.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:48 (twelve years ago) link
oh no i read on and saw this
Rapper Kanye West, of course, is the king of assemblage, a fearless adapter of any music that catches his fancy, be it the French house music of Daft Punk, the baroque pop of Jon Brion or the indie falsetto of Bon Iver’s Justin Vernon. Bruno Mars steals from doo-wop as much as he does hip-hop, tosses in a rock strum and happy-go-lucky Sublime reggae-lite vibe, none more prominent than another. And Lady Gaga is the missing link between Elton John and late-period Cher that we never knew we needed. And the line between country music and soft rock is at times barely indistinguishable.
i am not reading any further, honest.
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
also lol @ naming "Rolling In The Deep" as the rockin' alternative to all those nominations - rock really is dead if the biggest innovation of the year is a lukewarm "Gimme Shelter" rehash
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Friday, 10 February 2012 16:50 (twelve years ago) link
amen
'commercial'
― j., Friday, 10 February 2012 17:13 (twelve years ago) link
Also: _Even the alternative music album category, the place where the Grammys normally lets their freak flag fly, ignored acclaimed work by St. Vincent, Kate Bush, Wild Flag, Tuneyards and St. Vincent, among dozens of others._Most of whom are called St. Vincent. --Ned Raggett
_Even the alternative music album category, the place where the Grammys normally lets their freak flag fly, ignored acclaimed work by St. Vincent, Kate Bush, Wild Flag, Tuneyards and St. Vincent, among dozens of others._
Most of whom are called St. Vincent. --Ned Raggett
Skrillex is better than all these bands except Kate Bush tbh
― dave cool, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:19 (twelve years ago) link
I honestly have no problem with Skrillex at all, he's just there for me. I'm just amused by Randall going 'fresh! innovative!'
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
king of limbs sounds pretty "laptoppy" imo
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:25 (twelve years ago) link
xpost (Yeah his argument's contextual and his audience is the LA Times and not us but even so.)
the alternative music album category, the place where the Grammys normally lets their freak flag fly
Radiohead, White Stripes, the Arcade Fire.... freaky, man
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:28 (twelve years ago) link
for all the shit jethro tull got for beating metallica in the grammys, they are probably the *weirdest* band to ever win a grammy. i mean jethro tull! think about it! how could you even invent jethro tull?
― dave coolier (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 10 February 2012 17:33 (twelve years ago) link
i was listening to Heavy Horses by Jethro Tull the other day and the album is dedicated to the "hardworking shire horses of England"
You have prompted a thread revival.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 10 February 2012 17:41 (twelve years ago) link
but, but, but, surely Sum 41 will save us all!?
― Curtis Stephens, Tuesday, December 24, 2002 3:15 PM (9 years ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink
― if you ever leave me peggy, leave some propane at my door (zachlyon), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:42 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― plee help i am lookin for (crüt), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:43 (twelve years ago) link
at least you were 10 in 2002. made sense.
― scott seward, Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:47 (twelve years ago) link
lol
― pfunkboy (Algerian Goalkeeper), Saturday, 11 February 2012 00:48 (twelve years ago) link