generation timbo: TIMBALAND TRACKS POLL RESULTS

boy does that take the fun out of that lol

i know right (assuming you're talking about my last post)

Missed this poll somehow. Slowly absorbing the Spotify playlist. Had no idea he did half of these songs! "Pony" for chrissakes! Wow.

you had never heard pony??????

or you just didn't know it was tim?

RIP polls that I care about.

well, did we ever do a top hop hop albums of 1992 poll?

idk

Oh, I know Pony! Just had no idea it was Tim, basically I knew him for the Missy, Bubba, Furtado and JT cuts, and "Oops." Didn't know he did "Hola Hovito" either.

the ginuwine albums are easily some of the best shit he ever did

haven't listened to this yet but a 77-minute demo tape of Swing Mob stuff has surfaced: http://confessionsofacurlymind.com/2011/12/29/da-bassment-crew-aka-swing-mob-the-rise-fall-rise-of-one-of-the-baddest-motherfucking-crews-in-modern-music-history-the-recently-unearthed-77min-cassette-demo-tape-you-must-hear/

damn, nice find!

the virginia stuff is so good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tVZnQwbOX3I

fuck this is amazing https://soundcloud.com/confessionsofacurlymind/ginuwine-come-inside

wait that's not the one on the demo. the one on the demo is absurdly good.

okay it's actually this song, wtf this is insanely good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qj7JiGbt3lM

this tape is insanely good

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emeilbi7iX0

think we discussed danny boy stuff a while back iirc

the other virginia song on there ('slow drag') is amazing

devante was basically incredible and has never gotten nearly enough attention outside of a timbaland bias

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsjZ9i658V8

another dope ginuwine/devante unreleased cut from 96

there's a fair few bits around if you look, tim stans go super hard

yeah "slow drag" is amazing. they were fucking around using cricket chirp synths like it was nothing.

oh damn, I never posted that shit? sorry I was bogarting. There's also another zip in there full of random unreleased Jodeci/Swing Mob shit including like a track for Al Green(!)

uh. maybe NOW you can share?

It's on that page! Just scroll down

it's actually down now... ysi?

oh ok, give me some time

coolio

Still absorbing the Spotify playlist from time to time. "Jeeps, Lex Coups, Bimaz & Benz" is today's discovery. It bounces well - but Wikipedia says it was produced by Easy Mo Bee. What's the story?

I'm not sure who put it in the playlist, shouldn't be there -- you'll notice it's not in the poll countdown itt -- but it's next to Lil Kim's Tim-produced "The Jump Off," which features Mr. Cheeks from The Lost Boyz performing the chorus from "Jeeps"

Woah - didn't realize Mr. Cheeks had any kind of career outside of "Lights, Camera, Action!" Good to know. Yeah, it didn't really sound like Timbaland but I was thinking, well, it's early-to-mid-90s, maybe his sound evolved or something.

The Lost Boyz had a good little run as NY also-rans before Cheeks went solo, "Renee" is secretly one of the best rap hits of hte 90s

Checking that out now. Weird combination of touching story of love cut short by violence and some of rap music's memorable banalities e.g. "She said I'm gonna feed the dog," "I bought two franks and two drinks," and especially "She told me what she wants to be in school for / She wants to be a laywer / in other words, shorty studies law."

But I dig that, it's the banalities that you miss when someone's gone after all. And the little things that happen the first time you go over to someone's place have a way of sticking in the memory.

oh my good "Trippin'" and "Make It Hot" and "Ching Ching" and "Oops (Oh My)"

I'm not 100% on this but I feel like post-Danja Timbaland output is overall more consistent on whole albums produced (with Timberlake mainly, not gonna rep for Shock Value II, Chris Cornell or something like that lol) but earlier Timbaland has more interesting highs?

There is a point sometime between "Get Ur Freak On" and his pop reinvention where I lose interest and it makes sense to me he temporarily lost some popularity, like he stripped down his sound too much but unlike The Neptunes/Pharrell, who used to be really good at that, the tracks just sounded really dry & basic. Missy's Under Construction is one I don't come back to so much for that reason

I'm not 100% on this but I feel like post-Danja Timbaland output is overall more consistent on whole albums produced (with Timberlake mainly, not gonna rep for Shock Value II, Chris Cornell or something like that lol) but earlier Timbaland has more interesting highs?

this is crazy talk imo. 100% Ginuwine, Welcome To Our World, Supa Dupa Fly, One In A Million, Deliverance...the Danja era had good stuff but FutureSex and Loose are not really fucking with those albums.

POLL: best non-Missy album produced (mostly or entirely) by Timbaland

There's not really a duff track on any of the first three Missy albums, which is a testament to both of them during that period.

(I haven't like stared at their track lists or anything so it's possible i'm missing some random dud tune but I doubt it)

i had fun throwing this together recently, Missy's catalog is just crazy:
http://narrowcast.blogspot.com/2014/05/deep-album-cuts-vol-19-missy-elliott.html

I like certain Bubba Sparxxx songs, never got into either album like that tho. Supa Dupa Fly and Miss E are both good but there's a dip in quality in the second half of both imo. I'll have to give 100% Ginuwine a closer listen, I got the same inconsistent vibe from both of his, although it's more that the good songs are sprinkled throughout, not any one half > the other

I like Indecent Proposal, and Tim's Bio complete with the stupid Lil' Man helium voice lol

WTF, the second half of Supa Dupa Fly has "Why You Hurt Me", "Izzy Izzy Ah", "I'm Talkin'", "Gettaway"... all in a row! That's an insane run.

Da Real World's her most consistent album though.

Anyway can you point to any late period Timbaland album more consistent than these? FS/LS is the only one that comes close and even that starts to tail off in the final stretch.

after "Best Friends" I don't find a ton to like about the rest of the album, kinda drab. "Gettaway" is better than the others I guess. It's really an album with select songs I love though ("Rain" and "Beep Me 911" being the top)

You're right that FS/LS second half in general isn't as good either, I just like it better overall

Da Real World is the one classic-run Missy album I've never listened to all the way through, mainly cuz what I did hear I thought was dull in comparison to her other stuff. May check it out

your opinion is objectively wrong

I kinda feel like people coming to early Timbaland productions retrospectively would find it easier to just skim and then adopt received wisdom (which is basically reaping for singles and being ignorant of the rest).

This is probably true for most production "auteurs" but Timbaland is the first I was following from nearly the start in real time so it's more jarring seeing people act like Future Sex Love Sounds is the first great Timbaland album.

yeah...i remember my brother getting Supa Dupa Fly and Welcome To Our World and before there was any real hype about Timbaland being the driving force of all that stuff it just bowled me over how different and alive everything sounded

the grizzled vet of the nineties squints at the youngster and growls "we suffered magoo so that you could have your goddam justink timbershake why in my day we clamored for a Playa album and that was the way we liked it"

It's really annoying that the only Timbaland albums available on streaming services are the Shock Value ones.

Even more annoying that they're mostly packed with forgettable collaborations with people who shouldn't be on a Timbaland album. Tim, give Magoo a call!