Bad Brains: RFI/D

No, man. But uhm got the orig "Rock for Light" today and it's so great I just gotta revive

In fact when this version of "Right Brogade" kicked in I actually yelled "OH YEAH!!!!". I am on my own. I'm putting off going out for this rec. No higher praise can actually be afforded a rock record. Give me a week and I may have to change my position pretty squarely.

roffle @ people criticizing production jobs on late 70s/early 80s hardcore records.

black dots is pretty tight, I thought it was just some cash-in shit but I love the raw, upfront sound. 4 guys in a room kicking ass.

the black dots version of "pay to cum" is my favorite version of that song

INCREDIBLE

http://www.spinner.com/2006/09/26/exclusive-watch-bad-brains-live-at-cbgb-1982-dvd/

wau wau wow

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So MTV this week in between commercials and early morning videos (between around 6 and 8 a.m. est) is showing footage of current Bad Braisn jamming and such. I think I recognize Dr. Know and Daryl Jennifer, but am not sure about the rest. Is that HR? They do not sound like the Bad Brains I saw back in the 79 to 85 era...

HR is still in the band but by all accounts his contribution to live performances now is reminiscent of Weekend At Bernie's

The utter shock of seeing them with regularity on MTV was completely erased for me by the noodling nature of the clips. I would think that anyone who has only heard about how great the Bad Brains are would see those clips and wonder what the big deal is.

Exactly right.

are these clips online?

http://buzzworthy.mtv.com/2008/02/04/artist-of-the-week-bad-brains/

LOL

RFID?

that first clip kinda sounds like Stain-era Living Colour

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ugHJ_a8ydUY
Bad Brains - Paranoid

now ever since '79 h.r.'s been poppin' his collar, poppin' poppin' his collar

check the backflip at the end

Fucking incredible. What a band. True innovators. One day, they'll be respected like the Stooges are now.

I've had Bad Brains forever but have never heard Rock For Light. Does anyone prefer RFL to the original and why?

rock for light is longer and has more great songs (including alot of which are on s/t) but has worse production than s/t and does have some shit songs. you can't really go wrong though, seeing as s/t is the single greatest fucking punk album ever.

My Bad Brains interview in Spin, 1987:

http://books.google.com/books?id=komIU8HDrboC&pg=PA83&dq=bad+brains+chuck+eddy&rview=1&cd=1#v=onepage&q=bad%20brains%20chuck%20eddy&f=false

the new darryl jennifer album sounds kinda incredible to me

Wow, did not know there was one.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Live-Cbgb-1982-Region-NTSC/dp/B000GI3RKQ

Just buy this and see why they were so, so, very excellent

that is some valuable advice for people unaware that bad brains are so so very excellent

listening to black judas: kinda lol but yeah, good

this clip is gr8.. outside stage, chevrolet banner, fist-pumping 80s crowdgoers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=53tUc4Ub2zQ

Was just going to mention the '87 Florida set, odd that it appeared today. Great great set, band's on fire.

Hitched the '89 UK tour. Was fun. Gabba of Chaos Uk wound up getting a lift from somewhere near Bristol to the top of the M5 in a truck with a racist driver. Bumped into him as he got out of the cab at hitching point.

Trying to think what the name of the Best of cd which seems to have pretty decent sound is. What's on my walkman comes from there, think it includes Rock For Light stuff.

I have listened to thousands of bands in my life. When people ask me what my favorite band is, I say that I have heard so much music I cannot really narrow down a list to one single favorite. However, if you held a gun to my head, the first thing out of my mouth would be the Bad Brains and I'd be okay with that.

I often said that the ROIR tape was the best hardcore album ever but "I Against I" was the best album ever. A little hyperbole, but not that much now that I think about it.

Those videos are great! The old one, the one from '87, just amazing!

I got to see the original lineup of the band a few times. The last was in Cleveland in 2002 I think, a reunion tour that had as support a new band featuring the original Faith No More Singer (he was a chef in Cleveland by then!) and HR spent the whole show in a rocking chair on the stage. Very bizarre but unsurprisingly so.

In the article in Spin that xhuxk posted above (some time ago), the photo they used is the one from the inside of the 'I Against I' vinyl. The skinheaded dude right under the drum kit is Raybeez from Warzone. He was doing security at that early show.

Many years later, he and I became friendly in New York and he did security for all the shows at The Ritz and Roseland. I caught the Bad Brains at the latter venue and he was up front. I went up to him and said "Man, it's like that photo" and he smiled, knowing what I was talking about, and said he wouldn't rather be anywhere but right there.

Unbelievably amazing band and a big part of my life.

Am I correct for feeling physically ill and actually offended that Bad Brains are *supporting* something called Slightly Stoopid:

http://www.greektheatrela.com/events/event_details.asp?id=1986

ugh i fucking hate that band

Slightly Stoopid b/w Bad Brains and the Dum Dum Girls.

Jay Reatard was originally supposed to headline...

I love the ROIR one and RFL (original) as well, but wow they sure arrived fully formed

all the accusations of homophobia are 100% otm and don't detract one iota from the power of this stuff for me, YMMV

Would love to hear not just remasters but remixes. Few great band have been shafted worse by unfortunate production choices.

*great bands

why it's such a struggle, certainly so much that the Huskers guys essentially gave up the fight - Meat Puppets and Dinosaur got their rights back, Sonic Youth reissued Sister via Geffen IIRC.

this isn't strictly true, i spoke with terry katzman before he died and they used the same lawyers, tried but there were specific things in the husker contracts that were worse than the meat puppets and dino contracts, didn't get into the specifics

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also i think ginn knows mould is really well off and really wanted to shake him down

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Oh, that makes a lot of sense, thanks UMS.

got a discogs notice that the Rock for Light reissue is up for pre-order now. grabbed since my non-messed copy has gone missing.

Just seen this on YT, watched it a few years ago, really enlightening and also pretty upsetting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzH9t3iKy0E

Yep re upsetting.

FUCKING HELL: Previously unreleased live Bad Brains from 1980 & 1981 coming on Record Store Day!

Time Traveler Recordings, a new label founded by the award-winning “Jazz Detective” Zev Feldman as an outlet for music in other genres, blasts off on Record Store Day Black Friday with Live at the Bayou, an exclusive, limited two-LP set of blazing early concerts by Washington, D.C.’s potent, influential punk unit Bad Brains.

The Nov. 28 release — which will be succeeded on Dec. 5 by a CD edition — captures the four-piece unit in ferocious early form during appearances at the titular Georgetown club on July 14, 1980, and March 15, 1981. The 23 tracks comprise the earlier live performances to receive legitimate release, and are being issued with the full cooperation of the band.

The super-heated collection features the feisty, outspoken Black quartet — vocalist H.R. (Paul Hudson), guitarist Dr. Know (Gary Miller), bassist Darryl Jenifer, and drummer Earl Hudson (H.R.’s brother) — ripping through their early repertoire, much of which formed the basis for the group’s classic first two studio albums: the self-titled debut set issued in 1982 by cassette-only label ROIR and Rock for Light, the 1983 sophomore offering produced by Ric Ocasek of the Cars.

Highlights include renditions of Bad Brains’ self-released single “Pay to Cum” and such linchpin tracks as “Big Take Over,” “Attitude,” “Sailin’ On,” “At the Movies,” and a number that defined their status in the local clubs of the era, “Banned in D.C.”

...

Originally formed in 1977 as a quintet playing electric jazz fusion in the manner of Mahavishnu Orchestra, Bad Brains soon gravitated to the burgeoning punk sound boiling over in London, New York, and Los Angeles and, after witnessing a live show by Bob Marley and the Wailers, they embraced the spiritual tenets of Jamaican Rastafarianism and the riddims of reggae.

Though the band was from the first lumped in with the explosive sound of hardcore, then developing on the West Coast by such new bands as Black Flag, TSOL, and Dead Kennedys, their excursions into power-chorded, bottom-heavy metal (exemplified on Live at the Bayou by a cranked-up cover of Black Sabbath’s “Paranoid”) and the jazz-tinged outbursts of Dr. Know’s playing (in the manner of John McLaughlin and Pete Cosey of Miles Davis’ ‘70s groups) resisted such easy pigeonholing.

So that's what the "Paranoid" mention I saw earlier was about...

oh hell yeah, never seen these circulated before

2500 copies agdfhaskjgfhbfdb; [redacted]

a bit thin for a 2LP but I'm not complaining

Tracklist
1. Supertouch (4:29)
2. Attitude (1:25)
3. 1-2-X-U (1:10)
4. The Big Takeover (3:06)
5. The Man Won't Annoy (2:45)
6. Right Brigade (2:35)
7. Redbone (1:59)
8. Paranoid (1:25)
9. Stay Close (2:38)
10. Pay to Cum (1:34)
11. Suck Sess (1:59)
12. Banned in DC (2:35)
13. I Love I Jah (5:51)
14. I (2:39)
15. At the Movies (3:17)

afaik the two covers and "Suck Sess" are unheard/unreleased

(as far as previously documented songs)

Wasn't Dr. Know at one point hospitalized and on life support? What is the status of the band right now?

By 2016 it appears Dr. Know (Gary Miller) recovered, needed some physical therapy, and just had lots of medical bills to pay off. Not seeing any upcoming live Bad Brains gigs listed anywhere. The last time I saw HR, he seemed physically weak, his voice was soft, and he seemed to be struggling a bit mentally. Very sad. That was a number of years ago.

I see that HR is doing an Autumn 2025 solo tour

0/10 Lakewood, OH - Winchester Music Tavern
10/30 Madison, WI - The Annex Live
10/31 Chicago, IL - Reggie’s Music Joint
11/1 Davenport, IA - Bootleg Hill Honey Meads
11/2 Kansas City, MO - The Record Bar
11/4 St. Louis, MO - Red Flag
11/5 Covington, KY - Madison LIVE
11/6 Hamtramck, MI - THE Sanctuary Detroit
11/7 Fort Wayne, IN - Piere’s
11/9 Louisville, KY - Goodwood Whiskey Row

https://www.nbcwashington.com/entertainment/entertainment-news/bad-brains-live-recordings-record-store-day-release/4020164/

One of the Bad Brains gigs on this newly released live album is from when they opened for the Damned . But the linked story doesn’t spell that out

The Record Store Day live album - Live At The Bayou - is really good. The recordings are soundboard tapes, with minimal crowd noise but plenty of clarity and punch. They play songs from their first two albums, plus things that popped up on the "Pay to Cum" single, Black Dots and The Omega Session, and covers of Black Sabbath's "Paranoid" (with totally different lyrics) and Wire's "12XU" (which makes me wonder if Minor Threat's version was as much a tribute to Bad Brains as to Wire). There are also versions of two songs I don't think they ever recorded in the studio. If it gets released on CD, pick one up.

I think now that when Bad Brains opened for the Damned at the Bayou circa 1980 is not on that record. The story goes that the Damned were so wowed by Bad Brains they said to them you should come to England. The Bad Brains subsequently flew over without work permits or gigs scheduled, and were immediately sent back to the US.

the Bayou release is now out on 2CD

it totally smokes, the first set has what I think might be the best-ever recorded versions of "Right Brigade" and "Banned In DC"