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The opening of White Heat comes from the James Cagney film the song
was dedicated to. Never liked that song, but le me embarass myself
now: am I the ONLY (relatively sane) individual who likes Jimmy
Jimmy?
Yeah, believe me, I think it's really bizarre. ;) Ally, "A" always
appreciated your wit. (Of course, I got to see your picture so I
appreciated other things, too). I know you didn't care for Ray of
Light but never minded' it was only the ("real") fan-atics and sick-
sychophants who objected. And when did we ever pay attetion to
them? :P As for giving Aaron a message, I'm afraid I can't do that
since I haven't posted there in years myself. It sort of imploded
when a schizo started spamming the place.
I don't really know if viewing the videos would have made such a
great difference in your appreciation of the music, but if it's
helped you on earlier albums (I myself can't stand to listen to the
first one without visuals - just can't stomach the voice on half the
cuts) you might want to give her '93-'99 video collection a try. The
best videos, Bad Girl and Rain, are on there; Bad Girl was basically
everything Body of Evidence SHOULD have been - an arresting, tragic
narrative on the promiscuous life of a self-loathing "liberated"
woman - propelled by David Fincher's razor sharp direction and.
Another Christopher Walken contribution to the art of video (he plays
an angel? demon? cigarette dispatcher? aerobics master - WHAT?),
gotta love that. =) Cinematography, still the most accomplished. Rain
was cultural appropriation of the highest order, with the Japanese
studio-characters providing a nice contrast to the endless depth of
Madonna's aquamarine contact lenses. (For cultural appropriation of
the lowest order, check out "Nothing Really Matters.") I think
Erotica and Deeper & Deeper are effective too; still don't understand
why they got left off. Fever was the only one that was lame in spots
(the flower covering the vagina spots, in particular). Deeper &
Deeper was the video, after all, that spear-headed the entire 70s'
retro-fashion chic with her "video shoot" in the middle of it. Well
that and Eddie Vedder's neo-classical locks, : ) made the 90s into
the 70s again starting in '92! Thank god we didn'tcontinue on with
wherever the 80s were going, fashion-wise...
I wrote Fred Solinger an email, he never replied. Ah well...
And yeah, Sophia sucks. Virgin Suicides sucked *big* time, but I love
the Air score...
:P Vic
― Vic, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
More ridiculous album comparisons - 'Erotica' is what 'Diamond Dogs'
could've been if DB wasn't such a genteel spineless art-school fence-
sitter. (And I LIKE 'Diamond Dogs')
― dave q, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Going 'deeper and deeper' - DB needed all that nose candy just to
achieve that clear, pitiless, single-minded vision (music + lyrics)
that Madonna just HAD. (Has?)
― dave q, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Haha, I actually like Davey and haven't heard DD, so I cannot
comment.
Hey Ally, if you don't mind me asking: what *is* your sign anyway ?
Still have a Spice Girl appreciation-thing going on, or has that
branched out into A-teens/All-Saints fandom? Just curious. ;P
V
― Vic, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
Well, I'm a Taurus, if it matters, I don't mind sharing :)
Anyhow, I do think Dave is right and it's been something I've thought
for a while: the complete disregard for Erotica does come down to, on
some level, sexism. There have been loads of male rock stars who've
gone as far as Madonna, but I don't see anyone raising much of an
eyebrow, besides the extreme right. Madonna does it and it becomes
an "issue".
As for Like a Prayer, I think that's a good point, that it's a very
girly, feminine, pink-elephants-and-lemonaide type of album. It's
like a musical version of a stereotypical slumber party. Erotica, on
the other hand, is a very hard edge album (by Madonna standards), and
as such comes off as "inappropriately" masculine. *shrugs* But I
always thought that sort of traipsing back and forth between
stereotypes in art was supposed to be applauded, not vilified. At
least when the aforementioned David Bowie does it ;)
― Ally, Thursday, 6 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
nine years pass...
i just found some demos dave q sent me eight years ago, for an ambitious concept album he was working on based on donna summer's 'bad girls'. i wonder if he ever did any madonna covers.
― geeta, Monday, 20 June 2011 02:20 (twelve years ago) link