generation timbo: TIMBALAND TRACKS POLL RESULTS

damn that is too low, at least my no1 placed though

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opkRF3UZSJw&ob=av2n

45. Missy Elliott - "She's A Bitch" (266 points, 9 voters)
from Da Real World, 1999
#90 Hot 100, #30 R&B/Hip-Hop
Missy never had to worry about being looked at like a one hit
wonder, but she was still always defined by her lead singles, the
first big single off pretty much every album was a big game-changing
smash, and "She's A Bitch" was the one exception, the only one that
never really got into heavy rotation and was quickly eclipsed by its
follow-up. So it's kind of true to that legacy that it was one of the
sleepers of the poll. It only got one mention from the first 15 voters
and looked like it'd have no chance of placing, until the last few
ballots started bumping it up the list. And when I realized that that
I'd actually forgotten that first vote in its total, I did a last
minute recount and it moved up a couple more spots. (some dude)

Great song. It mainly missed my ballot because I love Da Real World so much and had included too many other cuts already.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCVnjBJZ3To
44. Jay-Z - "Come And Get Me" (283 points, 11 voters)
from Vol. 3... Life And Times Of S. Carter, 1999
"Come And Get Me" is probably the least outwardly dazzling of Tim's
consistently incredible contributions to Jay-Z's fourth album, but it
was the one that grabbed me most immediately after the album dropped,
just because the whole tempo of the song changed a minute or so in,
and then went off in a completely different direction for the rest of
the 6-minute track, which was an unexpected structure even by Tim's
standards. (some dude)

a surprising number of these are represented only by karaoke versions on spotify >:|

The best thing about these polls is being able to spend a week or more listening to and gassing about the artist incessantly. Especially when it's someone you don't know, but doing this gives you an in and it's really rewarding.

That's where I'm at with pretty much everyone on this poll. I never cared for Missy before - only knew the singles - but she's so great I ended up putting half-a-dozen of hers pretty high. Not this one though I don't think, but it's still excellent.

pah, massive xp

^^OTM. I now kinda regret I didn't dig into Tim's catalogue earlier and more thoroughly

I get what al is saying above about "Come & Get Me" being "least outwardly dazzling" (tho obv this is a relative statement) but "Come & Get Me" is just so striking and memorable to me, so perfectly really. It's not just the way the song pivots on that weird spaced out ambient section early on (though that's great) but also the fact that the beat that comes in at that point actually feels like a place you have to journey to arrive at, a "shit just got real" moment that'd sound really weird just going straight into it from the top. And what a beat - paranoid as fuck, the interplay between the bullet-kick bass riffs and the eerie synth chords such a perfect encapsulation of raw aggression and deceptive poise, the simultaneous depiction of the grace of being at the top and what it took to get there and stay there. Not to mention the minor modulations between each element, the way Tim adjusts the levels constantly to evoke the sense of constantly traveling further into Jay's paranoia.

a surprising number of these are represented only by karaoke versions on spotify >:|

i have always said spotify is shit and this is one of the major reasons why

/a surprising number of these are represented only by karaoke versions on spotify >:|/

i have always said spotify is shit and this is one of the major reasons why
--i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend)

Wah this thing that didn't even exist a year ago won't let me stream every single song in recorded history. What a piece of shit!!!!

actually it exists like a 3 years now, and it's always been a problem

argh, i have blurbs for you; need to get them in.

weingarten i would like to distance myself from the attitude yr imputing to me there thx

it's like whiney takes pride in being unaware that the world exists outside the US

it's like whiney takes pride in being unaware that the world exists outside the US
--i asked for "HALF" a glass of wine, because i am TEMPERENT (lex pretend)

It's like whiney takes pride in not wikipediaing how long Spotify has been in the uk, which i know is like a year or three. Pedantry is def not gonna help u win this argument, just saying.

weingarten i would like to distance myself from the attitude yr imputing to me there thx
--thomp

Nah just lex. U were just having a :( which is cool IMO

dry your eyes, mate

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U9X_2ky4-Y
43. Aaliyah featuring Missy Elliott and Timbaland - "Hot Like Fire
(Timbaland's Groove Remix)" (284 points, 10 voters)
combined votes for the remix and the original version
from One In A Million, 1996
#31 R&B/Hip-Hop (charted 1997)
Maybe it's just the giant red hummers in the video, but I think of
the remix version of this song that was released as a single as
Timbaland's quintessential "jeep beat," just a massive summer jam that
should be more of a seasonal radio staple than it is. Fun fact: a
total of five songs with the word "hot" in the title received votes in
this poll. (some dude)

yo tim/al i'm about now, had a busier morning than expected, so if you need a 3rd hand, just give me a shout.

I don't have any more to post so feel free to take over.

SO happy 4 Page Letter and Make It Hot made it. I thought they'd end up totally undervalued.

ok cool, i have up to #35.

would it be ok to request links rather than embeds to youtubes? it's fine now but this thread is gonna be unloadable soon for my home laptop...

this is gonna be a really consensus list huh

How do you view other big trax polls? xp

i don't, except for the EOY one, which had embeds rather than links

i couldn't view the nominations thread for this, still haven't

so far nothing ive voted for has placed, the only thing that i might have put on an extended list is a 'she's a bitch'

lex, turn off images!

(then you'll just be able to click on the youtube links you want to see)

i'll change them to embeds today lex but you'll have to speak to al when he is back about the rest. i've just played it on repeat, DAMN I LOVE MAKE IT HOT. What ever happened to her?

btw you can turn them off iirc, i presume under "preferences"?

either that or install flashblock on ur browser to show/hide vids individually on the page

that's not gonna work on camino is it, i can just tell

Or do like I did before I installed a lot more RAM in my computer and make good use of the bookmarking feature.

AYO I'M TIRED OF USING TECHNOLOGY would be such an apt song to crop up right now

42. Jay-Z - "Dirt Off Your Shoulder" (312 points, 9 voters)
from The Black Album, 2003
#5 Hot 100, #3 R&B/Hip-Hop (charted 2004)
All I'll say here is this is the first song on the list I really
feel doesn't belong here. (some dude)

Embedded into the song name.

i thought 50 loved the ayo technology to ayo stalk you from afar

dirt off yr shoulder is totally boring and if it beats snoopy track and nwnw i will start a murdering

some dude and a hoy hoy otm.

i only really had space for one tweet jam, and it had to be oops

although listening to call me again, i think i cocked up by not including it

eh I liked it then and like it now. It remains a B+ track. Plus there's:

http://imgs.sfgate.com/c/pictures/2008/04/19/mn_Obama_2008_NCJH113.jpg

that's not gonna work on camino is it, i can just tell

i mean in ilx preferences

kinda proves what i suspected that ppl would vote purely on the basis of songs rather than with an eye to what timbo did on it. (not saying you shouldnt ever do this but in terms of the question...)

didnt realise 'call me' was so beloved, never been a big deal to me

dirt off your shoulder is one simple riff and timbo probably could have put it together in five minutes, but it sounds so (for lack of a better word) dirty.

xpost Me neither, it's nice though.

eh I liked it then and like it now. It remains a B+ track.

bitch if you voted for b+ shit i don't know what to say.

all those "hot like fire" remixes are dope

"she's a bitch" is such a banger. i love vibing to the outro.

I didn't vote for it at all. It's a decent single.

xpost to Tim

I'm not 100% on this but I feel like post-Danja Timbaland output is overall more consistent on whole albums produced (with Timberlake mainly, not gonna rep for Shock Value II, Chris Cornell or something like that lol) but earlier Timbaland has more interesting highs?

this is crazy talk imo. 100% Ginuwine, Welcome To Our World, Supa Dupa Fly, One In A Million, Deliverance...the Danja era had good stuff but FutureSex and Loose are not really fucking with those albums.

POLL: best non-Missy album produced (mostly or entirely) by Timbaland

There's not really a duff track on any of the first three Missy albums, which is a testament to both of them during that period.

(I haven't like stared at their track lists or anything so it's possible i'm missing some random dud tune but I doubt it)

i had fun throwing this together recently, Missy's catalog is just crazy:
http://narrowcast.blogspot.com/2014/05/deep-album-cuts-vol-19-missy-elliott.html

I like certain Bubba Sparxxx songs, never got into either album like that tho. Supa Dupa Fly and Miss E are both good but there's a dip in quality in the second half of both imo. I'll have to give 100% Ginuwine a closer listen, I got the same inconsistent vibe from both of his, although it's more that the good songs are sprinkled throughout, not any one half > the other

I like Indecent Proposal, and Tim's Bio complete with the stupid Lil' Man helium voice lol

WTF, the second half of Supa Dupa Fly has "Why You Hurt Me", "Izzy Izzy Ah", "I'm Talkin'", "Gettaway"... all in a row! That's an insane run.

Da Real World's her most consistent album though.

Anyway can you point to any late period Timbaland album more consistent than these? FS/LS is the only one that comes close and even that starts to tail off in the final stretch.

after "Best Friends" I don't find a ton to like about the rest of the album, kinda drab. "Gettaway" is better than the others I guess. It's really an album with select songs I love though ("Rain" and "Beep Me 911" being the top)

You're right that FS/LS second half in general isn't as good either, I just like it better overall

Da Real World is the one classic-run Missy album I've never listened to all the way through, mainly cuz what I did hear I thought was dull in comparison to her other stuff. May check it out

your opinion is objectively wrong

I kinda feel like people coming to early Timbaland productions retrospectively would find it easier to just skim and then adopt received wisdom (which is basically reaping for singles and being ignorant of the rest).

This is probably true for most production "auteurs" but Timbaland is the first I was following from nearly the start in real time so it's more jarring seeing people act like Future Sex Love Sounds is the first great Timbaland album.

yeah...i remember my brother getting Supa Dupa Fly and Welcome To Our World and before there was any real hype about Timbaland being the driving force of all that stuff it just bowled me over how different and alive everything sounded

the grizzled vet of the nineties squints at the youngster and growls "we suffered magoo so that you could have your goddam justink timbershake why in my day we clamored for a Playa album and that was the way we liked it"

It's really annoying that the only Timbaland albums available on streaming services are the Shock Value ones.

Even more annoying that they're mostly packed with forgettable collaborations with people who shouldn't be on a Timbaland album. Tim, give Magoo a call!