SO HARD... literally!
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:10 (twelve years ago) link
ehhh -- MJ rules but the spectacle of wiry uncertain Cocker destroying Jackson's well-choreographed display of kitch was great television.
― Anakin Ska Walker (AKA Skarth Vader) (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:13 (twelve years ago) link
"wiry, uncertain" = ripped to the tits on coke
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:14 (twelve years ago) link
nb nowt wrong with being ripped to the tits on coke but let's not buy this "David vs Super-Goliath" version eh?
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:15 (twelve years ago) link
cos it was much more like "hype toddler shows off in front of mates" imo
OTM, still MJ deserved it, no matter how good he was
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:16 (twelve years ago) link
i often think that if MJ had beaten the crap out of him there and then his career wd have never dipped
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:17 (twelve years ago) link
He's a lover, not a fighter
― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:17 (twelve years ago) link
and really "oddball reclusive black guy pretends to be Jesus in concert performance" is much more subversive and funny than "aging student doesn't like pop music"
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:18 (twelve years ago) link
tbh give me a pop star throwing jesus poses any day over a pop star trying cluelessly to be an Important Social Commentator
― lex pretend, Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:18 (twelve years ago) link
What's that Oasis song again, Heal The World?
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link
though i guess MJ was trying to be both, lol
― lex pretend, Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:19 (twelve years ago) link
Isn't that what Jacko was doing tho? Albeit in messianic megalomaniac mode?
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:20 (twelve years ago) link
oops (xp)
and really "oddball reclusive black guy pretends to be Jesus in concert performance" is much more subversive and funny
Maybe, if it actually had been subversive or funny
― Euripides Trousers (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:21 (twelve years ago) link
rephrase: if you're a pop star trying to be an Important Social Commentator, you damn well better accompany it with some jesus poses
― lex pretend, Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:22 (twelve years ago) link
Thing is, JCock was 'hero' to many for that stunt for years, but after MJackson died, the whole thing seems, um, I dunno, churlish?
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link
Enjoying doglatin’s finessed irony here. Where’s ex-ILMer and “Toploder” fan Andy Paltridge when you need him?
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link
xxpost jesus was famous for his flappy flappy arse wave
― Upt0eleven, Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:24 (twelve years ago) link
Romans didn't like that shit AT ALL
― Geirge Hongriot (NickB), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:26 (twelve years ago) link
From Wikipedia
Pulp (band)History (1978 - 2011):Jarvis Cockhead spent 30 years striking ridiculous poses round the common room wearing the same knock-off Che t-shirt and quoting The Communist Manifesto at anyone who would bother listening to him. Then one day he decided to punch Michael Jackson. Then he grew a beard. Jarvis Cocker is gay.
History (1978 - 2011):
Jarvis Cockhead spent 30 years striking ridiculous poses round the common room wearing the same knock-off Che t-shirt and quoting The Communist Manifesto at anyone who would bother listening to him. Then one day he decided to punch Michael Jackson. Then he grew a beard. Jarvis Cocker is gay.
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:27 (twelve years ago) link
jesus poses > important social commentary >>>>>>>> ~self-important lex commentary~
― Come and get it with King (G'Day) Boy (G'Day) Pato (King Boy Pato), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:28 (twelve years ago) link
Different Class? Shitferent Class you mean...
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:29 (twelve years ago) link
xp It wasn't Jarvis v pop (which he loves) or Jarvis v Michael Jackson's back catalogue, it was Jarvis v creepy, messianic hubris. Not his finest hour by any means but balls to pro-Earth Song revisionism.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:49 (twelve years ago) link
Still a prick after all these years, DL, I see.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 10:55 (twelve years ago) link
Glad you got that off your chest.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:00 (twelve years ago) link
It's amazing what you can do with duct tape and Onken strawberry mousse.
― Here he is with the classic "Poème Électronique." Good track (Marcello Carlin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:02 (twelve years ago) link
OMG I understood that.
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:03 (twelve years ago) link
Elegant Slumming, easily. Most of the other stuff I've heard is either bland (Portishead, Roni Size, Talving Singh), irritating (Dizzee, Pulp, Primal Scream) or shite. The Ms. Dynamite album has few good tunes, but it's wildly uneven.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:06 (twelve years ago) link
I think it might actually be Let England Shake. Umming and aahing between that and Dummy. Boy In Da Corner would be in there but for the weak section in the middle - I never want to listen to it all the way through.
2009: Speech Debelle - Speech Therapy
BLESS YOU
This is positive contrarianism gone mad though.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:10 (twelve years ago) link
Antony And The Johnsons winning was a bit of a treasured moment for me because Conor McNicholas's stuttering incredulity was such a picture. Loved that record at the time, find a whole hour's worth of Antony's voice a bit hard going and treacly now. Also it broke up several years of haircut indie domination.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:12 (twelve years ago) link
Jarvis loves "Pop", not the same thing as pop music
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:13 (twelve years ago) link
that Antony album is pretty short and sweet tbf
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:14 (twelve years ago) link
I didn't know before reading this thread that Antony & The Johnsons is an UK act! Somehow they've always sounded like they were from New York to me.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:16 (twelve years ago) link
in honesty my favourite of these - certainly most listened - is (disc 2 of) New Forms.
But I like the Primal Scream, M People, Portishead, Pulp, Ms Dynamite, Dizzee Rascal, xx and PJ Harvey albums as well.
― Tim F, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
they're called the suburbs
― post, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
I think it's a kind of Jimi Hendrix thing with Antony.
― It was a Thursday night. I was working late... (dog latin), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
But yeah, they're okay. It's just that as Nina Simone fan I've never been able to deal with how much the singer tries to sound like her.
(xxx-post)
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:17 (twelve years ago) link
xp Antony was born in the UK though based in the US at the time - there was a minor fuss at the time about his eligibility.
― Science, you guys. Science. (DL), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
but the irony is their music is actually about small town life
― post, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
1992: Primal Scream - ScreamadelicaVoting for Screamadelica now is like admitting defeat, bit like buying Beatles albums because you can't think of anything else you want.
1993: Suede - SuedeNothing that makes Brett Anderson happy should be allowed, anywhere.
1994: M People - Elegant SlummingNot down with the positive revisionism on this one, would probably be more open to it if it didn't have Heather Small's voice on them. But it beat His & Hers, and that at least annoyed Mark Radcliffe.
1995: Portishead - DummyA++++ classic for all time.
1996: Pulp - Different ClassLike it, don't love it, bar a few tracks.
1997: Roni Size / Reprazent - New FormsAfter living in a student halls of residence when this was huge, I honestly never want to hear it ever again.
1998: Gomez - Bring It OnHahahahaha you clowns.
1999: Talvin Singh - OKSee Gomez.
2000: Badly Drawn Boy - The Hour Of BewilderbeastSecretly like some of this, blame it being on a lot over the right summer in the right place.
2001: P J Harvey - Stories From The City, Stories From The SeaActually in danger of becoming underrated. I like this more than To Bring You My Love. Not the best PJ Harvey record in this poll, let alone overall.
2002: Ms. Dynamite - A Little DeeperTerrific, not the best here.
2003: Dizzee Rascal - Boy In Da CornerTerrific, not *quite* the best here.
2004: Franz Ferdinand - Franz FerdinandIt's a really good job the Divine Comedy were never eligible to win.
2005: Antony and the Johnsons - I Am A Bird NowSee previous post.
2006: Arctic Monkeys - Whatever People Say I Am, That's What I'm NotLol.
2007: The Klaxons - Myths Of The Near FutureSeriously lol.
2008: Elbow - The Seldom Seen KidDon't care.
2009: Speech Debelle - Speech TherapyWho gives a shit.
2010: the xx - XXDULLDULLDULL.
2011: PJ Harvey - Let England ShakeAmazing.
― Matt DC, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:18 (twelve years ago) link
^^^ mostly brilliant and correct
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:19 (twelve years ago) link
all the winners of the mercury prize are confessional albums about small town life, the fact that the winners represent a broad sphere of british life just goes to show how many different towns in Britain there actually are
― post, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link
Matt that Primal Scream precis shd be stickered on all future copies of Screamadelica
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:20 (twelve years ago) link
What's wrong with Heather Small's voice?!
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:21 (twelve years ago) link
She had a TV show over here where she read out the names of anybody convicted of shoplifting during the last week, it put a lot of people off her Tuomas.
― placeholder for weak pun (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:23 (twelve years ago) link
Tho u haven't lived until u've heard "Terry Ganton, 25, 6 months conditional discharge" to the tune of "Sight for Sore Eyes".
Those were extra verses of "What have you done today to make you feel proud" though.
xpost TIMING!
― Mark G, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:24 (twelve years ago) link
Ah, okay. No need to put down her previous work because of that, though! I mean, Thriller is still a great album even if you don't approve of Micheal Jackson's caviar smuggling ring.
― Tuomas, Thursday, 8 September 2011 11:25 (twelve years ago) link
(xx-post)