fancy is the one where i just find dream's fantasy about this materialistic woman kind of dumb, but i might be being unfair. if it were written by a chick about herself i might like it more. also, though, it would probably be better.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 19:59 (twelve years ago) link
i haven't listened to it in ages so i will now
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
I don't really listen to the-dream for the lyrics
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
the production on that is so epic xp
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:01 (twelve years ago) link
except for 'florida university' why because f. u.
what do the LvMs bring sonically though - hey, terius knows how to trigger a gunshot sound?
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:52 PM (6 minutes ago) Bookmark
idk i've always taken these almost like the-dream & tricky's take on industrial music
i mean it's sort of an obvious trick -- cold & punishing beats frame a song where a dude's life has become sad -- but i think it works
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
"fancy" is just o_O in every way
'fancy' is this 6 minute concentration of energies that never really finds a release, it's awesome
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:02 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:01 PM (11 seconds ago) Bookmark
yeah...i am dumb about talking about the music part of music so i talk about lyrics but i don't mean just lyrics, i just don't have the language to talk about the sound part. but i really love some of his lyrics.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:02 PM (6 seconds ago) Bookmark
i don't agree w/ that at all!!
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:03 (twelve years ago) link
yah fancy is more swirling wide screen cinematic grandeur
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
the thing i basically love about his sound is the "everything is happening inside a bouncy castle" feel. sometimes the lyrics are so dumb they take me out of the song, and i'm afraid "fancy" is one of those.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
haha well I almost never listen to the lyrics unless they jump out at me. I'm also an eng/lit major type fwiw.
I would totally write a freud style sublimation of energies essay about fancy if I was still into masturbating into music publications
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:04 (twelve years ago) link
wait yeah what would u call the last 30 seconds of not a "release"
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
i think that part of me is also forgiving about it because i am broke & fantasize pretty readily / can understand why ppl fantasize about how much money would change their lives when working a shitty job, and i guess at some level i wish a the-dream would swoop in & hook me up w/ private jet rides
but not terius specifically
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
this song is soooooooooooooo long you guys
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
'right side of my brain' is the release
― prolego, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:05 (twelve years ago) link
i know, it's weird, i like a lot of songs about materialism, but i just don't vibe with the particular fantasy in fancy
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:06 (twelve years ago) link
the last 30 secs get so close to being an eruption but it never quite gets unhinged - it's like at the moment he's about to go for the nuclear option he realizes that it's better to go for a 'honey attracts flies' approach and gearshifts into the absolute melting lushness of 'right side of my brain'
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:07 (twelve years ago) link
first of all, you could argue that the payoff is the end of "right side of my brain", which means that it just takes really long to get to
BUT
i think the part in "fancy" before the rap where the instrumental is really swelling up and the-dream starts scatting (lol) and there's the screwed vocal ("all we do is, we spend this money") is a great & sorta subtle climax, then it all drops out for his rap so there's a tension release -- idk that part was always pretty epic to me
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:08 (twelve years ago) link
like my fav. part about the last 30 secs is the way those deep drums come in w/ like 10 seconds left while there are all these like 2-3 synth runs in the background - but his voice still remains measured, control, and the last line is "but even when I used to rock polos I was fancy..." and that's a capitulation, not a sign of victory
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
the swooping strings are the release imo, yeah, the part w/ the double-time rap
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:09 (twelve years ago) link
2-3 second synth runs, that should say
'right side of my brain' is the comedown, not the release
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
just realized this listening back the other night but i love how "fancy" evokes a sound that i think is sorta stereotypical of, like, a parisisan square? jazzy woodwinds & whatever,.
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:10 (twelve years ago) link
svelte
― (gr8080), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
― dayo, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:10 PM (20 seconds ago) Bookmark
no!! "right side of my brain" is tense as hell. that's where the "explosive release" is. the last minute of that song is the heaviest part of the album.
the release is mr. yeah/kelly's 12 play, where he is back to fucking
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:11 (twelve years ago) link
get outta here grady
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
er, the comedown is mr. yeah etc
cant decide if im more frustrated by rong opinions here or in the politics thread
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:12 (twelve years ago) link
probably here
― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:12 PM (55 seconds ago) Bookmark
this is weird to me, but i think it's because i would prefer an album of mr. yeahs + kelly's 12-play to what love v. money actually is.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:14 (twelve years ago) link
lol. okay just looking at the lyrics, 'fancy' is a 6 minute long epic where the-dream is just about to capitulate to this girl and just about to devote himself to her, before he pulls out (lol) at the very last second and takes a step back in 'right side of my brain'
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:08 PM (5 minutes ago)
yeah for me the release has always been in parts - starts with the screwed vocal, then the rap, then finally when the drums come in
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:15 (twelve years ago) link
can't believe I interrupted my catching up with TSJ to argue these points
billy cunningham is not happy w you jokers
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
― J0rdan S., Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:11 PM (3 minutes ago)
^^otm, "mr yeah" is the comedown which is why i do not consider it part of the suite
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:16 (twelve years ago) link
― horseshoe, Sunday, September 4, 2011 4:14 PM (2 minutes ago)
the album you're looking for is love/hate
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:17 (twelve years ago) link
otm
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
i know, that one is the best!
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:18 (twelve years ago) link
& just for the record i tend to get overly critical about this stuff, i mean LvM was my favorite album of 2009
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:19 (twelve years ago) link
mr. yeah is a victory lap btw, not a comedown
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:20 (twelve years ago) link
hmmm yeah
― frogsb (k3vin k.), Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
well then the comedown is "kelly's 12 play"
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
― horseshoe, Sunday, September 4, 2011 3:18 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink
yessss
― D-40, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:21 (twelve years ago) link
kelly's 12-play is just great.
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:22 (twelve years ago) link
i think "kelly's 12 play" has my fav dream lyrics ever
― J0rdan S., Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
oooh oooh oooh-in it!
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:23 (twelve years ago) link
I'm glad we just generated another 200 posts about the-dream
― dayo, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:24 (twelve years ago) link
haha this is the only kind of ilm posting i feel like i can participate in, enthusiastic fandom
― horseshoe, Sunday, 4 September 2011 20:25 (twelve years ago) link