JAZZ IS LIKE HEROIN TO ME ! ! ! ~~~~ ILM POST-1945 JAZZ ALBUMS POLL - THE RESULTS COUNTDOWN (now counting top 25!)

ha yeah -- i think the early donald byrd blue notes i've heard haven't knocked me out. solid, obviously, but maybe not as strong as, say, lee morgan's stuff from the same period.

but maybe not as strong as, say, lee morgan's stuff from the same period.

yes, but what was??

lee morgan ruled blue note in the early 60s

Certainly came up with a big hit for them.

57    Charles Mingus - Let My Children Hear Music (1972) 1135 Points, 10 votes
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41%2BJFDMx8gL._SL500_AA300_.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/03zH4bkGb2jSZAQIVW2px1

never heard of that; any good?

oh yeah

:)

Yes. "The Shoes of the Fisherman's Wife Are Some Jive Ass Slippers" is there!

One of Mingus' best, definitely. Fucking cinematic.

shit rocks

apparently it was his favourite album he made

mingus's last great record, probably -- there are some good tunes on the albums that follow, but none of those 70s records are masterpieces. this one seems like a fully formed statement, everything perfectly put together.

56    Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers - Moanin' (1958) 1151 Points, 10 votes
http://pixhost.me/avaxhome/b8/80/000c80b8_medium.jpeg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5PzlTnVafjgt5RtjTdIKoC

weird I've never even heard of any of the last four

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okay I know that Art Blakey one

you have some catching up to do then

"Fleurette Africaine" off of Money Jungle has to be one of the most beautiful recordings ever made.

oh absolutely, listened to it again yesterday and it really stands out.

I am listening to "Let My Children Hear Music" now it is really fantastic, I don't know why i never really got into it before. I guess when i started really investigating Mingus a couple of years ago it was more orchestral than what i was looking for with him. I was very wrong..

55    Wayne Shorter - JuJu (1964) 1194 Points, 12 votes
http://www.jazz59.com/joefarrell/images/juju.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/46VoobaZCtFPReElOHFEqq

weird I've never even heard of any of the last four

Funny the gaps in what people know. I suspect you're more familiar with jazz than I am, so this surprises me, but I know I've surprised people with some of the things I don't know.

eh there's a ton of jazz stuff I've never heard. prior to the internet collecting this shit was a ton of work/$$$

54    Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage (1965) 1200 Points, 12 votes
http://minoltamania.com/Herbie%20Hancock_Maiden%20Voyage.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/7huPJTTsWVt854oZkr88mf

shakey I'm sure you know this album

yeah I know that one. never owned a copy tho

lovely record. george coleman doesn't get enough credit, he's great on everything i've heard. though on that elvis costello TV show, herbie praised him, and you could hear like one guy in the audience burst into applause.

53    Thelonious Monk - Straight No Chaser (1967) 1201 Points, 12 votes
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51k0WjwbwIL._SS400_.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/1BHwJqnHhuIryphXMZ0PMQ

why did Monk get such awful covers...? seems so unfair

there's that one, and the one with the kiddie wagon. just.... why

52    Wayne Shorter - Speak No Evil (1964) 1207 Points, 11 votes
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-yrIbhNHgFFs/TcwBt22sHdI/AAAAAAAAAOU/xcshO2zJV-c/s1600/COVER.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/27Rl7A8jXEQOkIfUKOa6ZU

Hope Night Dreamer makes it. Never was much of a Hubbard fan, definitely prefer Lee Morgan.

51    Lonnie Liston Smith - Expansions (1974) 1216 Points, 10 votes
http://www.soulstrut.com/images/uploads/reviews/B000005MLY.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/6gTHTc1DucAt6we7SLRDog

Oh come on, the vocal mantra lasts for maybe a minute, and it's hardly the thing that makes the album great. Sure, A Love Supreme has unnecessarily eclipsed all the other great Coltrane albums, but that happens to a lot of artists (it's the same with Kind of Blue for Miles, Ah Um for Mingus, Time Out for Dave Brubeck, etc). On the other hand, with artists like Coltrane who have such a large and sprawling discography, it might be good a thing there is a canonical album for newbies to start with, especially since it's a great album that exemplifies well what was great about Coltrane. With artists like Sun Ra who've released dozens of albums but none of them is the canonical one, the newbie might be kinda lost at where to start. (This is certainly one reasons I've never really delved into his music.)

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fwiw this is bullshit -- kind of blue for example actually has a case for being the best Miles album, a love supreme isnt even close to being the best trane record

also i love that lonnie liston smith album but its yet another example of a pop record beating jazz ones

POPISM RULES

like, that record beating 'moanin' is nonsense

great album though!

it wouldn't have if you had voted deej!

that donald byrd 'off to the races' is weirdly high. anyone want to talk about it? i havent heard it but my experience w/ mid-60s byrd is that hes a fairly average trumpet player

had no idea the good doctor was so popular tbh

kind of blue for example actually has a case for being the best Miles album, a love supreme isnt even close to being the best trane record

I don't get this frankly. the received wisdom/critical consensus re: Miles is correct, but the received wisdom/critical consensus re: Trane is wrong...? Seems to me like Love Supreme is ALWAYS cited as his key work, as the best entry point into his catalog. (note: it is not my favorite record of his, that would be Blue Trane)

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, a love supreme isnt even close to being the best trane record

I get the feeling a lot of people will disagree with you there.. dunno why.

guys he said it isn't even close to his best, didn't you read

maybe in rock critic books but the jazz canon usually puts 'a love supreme' down as one of his lesser albums from the era that got considerably more attention from folks outside of the jazz world

I'm reserving judgment on these other Byrd albums placing until I see where A New Perspective ranks

btw I had to take a break from all the exclusive-jazz-listening I've been doing over the past few days. moving onto Dio at the moment.

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Dio should have recorded with Miles & McLaughlin

but the jazz canon usually puts 'a love supreme' down as one of his lesser albums

think Stanley Crouch would beg to differ, among others

(I hate Stanley Crouch btw)

A Love Supreme is the only Coltrane album to get a "crown" in the 8th edition of the Penguin guide fwiw. And those dudes are pretty hostile to a lot of the spiritual jazz stuff.

THERE'S NO CASE TO BE MADE

ok on with the top 50. I guess I better not ask a mod to change the title...

50 John Coltrane - Olé Coltrane (1961) 1225 Points, 11 votes
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_hLY9DmXXlH4/TA0n5D6fr4I/AAAAAAAAB38/31j4hsyBwH4/s1600/ole-coltrane.jpg
http://open.spotify.com/album/5BGkenbuo3xY3CRblRPj8K

not a rock critic

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