― oops (Oops), Monday, 17 November 2003 18:42 (twenty years ago) link
J0hn I'm surprised you aren't giving Baraka the benefit of the doubt, y'know, poetic license and all. And the "one state westward" stuff was about how your position is exactly that of the Democratic governor of New Jersey, James McGreevey, who eliminated the New Jersey Poet Laureate position because Baraka wouldn't resign - somebody said "at least he's not Rick Santorum," who is of course one state westward in Pennsylvania.
Read more about it from Baraka's p.o.v. if you like. Not saying I agree with his reasoning all of the time, but the attempts to silence him because he dare write a poem are outrageous and uncalled for.
― hstencil, Monday, 17 November 2003 18:43 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 18:52 (twenty years ago) link
but that's all for a different thread I s'pose.
― hstencil, Monday, 17 November 2003 18:57 (twenty years ago) link
― Big Boi, Monday, 17 November 2003 19:35 (twenty years ago) link
Maybe it is because ddrake cannot state his opinion on anything in a way that doesn't reek of asshattery.
― El Diablo Robotico (Nicole), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:40 (twenty years ago) link
"I don't like it, therefore claims that it's good are specious"
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:42 (twenty years ago) link
― Big Boi, Monday, 17 November 2003 19:45 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:46 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:47 (twenty years ago) link
― Big Boi, Monday, 17 November 2003 19:48 (twenty years ago) link
― Big Boi, Monday, 17 November 2003 19:50 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:51 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:52 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 19:54 (twenty years ago) link
― Big Boi, Monday, 17 November 2003 20:01 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:04 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:05 (twenty years ago) link
― Big Boi, Monday, 17 November 2003 20:10 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:14 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:23 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:24 (twenty years ago) link
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 20:36 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:37 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:38 (twenty years ago) link
Notice how big boi kicked it off with "I agree with ddrake."
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 20:43 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:44 (twenty years ago) link
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 20:46 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:47 (twenty years ago) link
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 20:47 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link
One of the saddest/funniest things about all this is assuming that everyone else who has posted on this thread with (well-deserved) barbs in your direction does so simply because they're my toadies or something like that.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:48 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:49 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:49 (twenty years ago) link
James.You are asking for whiter hip hop.Admit it. -- ddrake (ddrak...), November 17th, 2003 10:54 PM.
To be perfectly honest.
x-post woah lemme get back to ya on this fucking A
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link
James.You are asking for whiter hip hop.Admit it.
Big Boi singled out a specific crew for specific reasons and didn't race-bait.
Geir, shut up, please, you don't know what you're talking about.
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link
― Big Boi, Monday, 17 November 2003 20:50 (twenty years ago) link
And then there are sentences which make me ponder if humanity is not worth exploding to death.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:51 (twenty years ago) link
Bullshit.Well-deserved? Perhaps you'd like to explain.
maybe because your repeat yourself to an unusual degree, take more pride in being right all along than is really necessary for this discussion, and come across as extremely self-righteous? just a guessThis describes pretty much every person on ILM.
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 20:52 (twenty years ago) link
I think Matos just did.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:53 (twenty years ago) link
― Roland Barthes (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:54 (twenty years ago) link
And I responded in turn.
― ddrake, Monday, 17 November 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
― M Matos (M Matos), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
Roland, Uhh....I went to a pretty decent college, and I'm still not sure what you just said.
― Big Boi, Monday, 17 November 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
― oops (Oops), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:55 (twenty years ago) link
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:56 (twenty years ago) link
― J0hn Darn1elle (J0hn Darn1elle), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:58 (twenty years ago) link
― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Monday, 17 November 2003 20:59 (twenty years ago) link